True the had horrendous firearms edict, however they have a right to protect their property. The mob already showed that they are willing to break the law be tearing down the gate to the community thats says in multiple locations "no trespassing.
That’s the dumbest thing I’ve ever heard. Racist to who? It’s like people fighting for fair treatment and rights. So is that racist cause white pol want to keep all of it or is their done other reason
@NotAggainn people are not "fighting for fair treatment". they are antagonizing a white majority, appealing to "white guilt", not being accountable for their own actions and instead looking for "systemic" oppression where there is none. the only people that can fix the issues of black people are black people, cause the issues are caused by themselves. they're trying to hold white people accountable for their misery, when it's self-inflicted.
of course on the surface level, you see black people performing less well in the economic system and being way more prone for criminal activity, unemployment and single motherhood. however those aren't caused by "male white suppressors". black lifes don't matter. just like white lifes don't matter
what matters is what every individual makes out of their life and it has never been easier than now for black people to break the mold and go to university, get educated and change te stereotype, cause black people actually have the "privilege" of minotrity support funding, which is unfair for white people but it tries to correct what they are failing to correct.
the cause is habitual misstakes in black communities. those need to be fixed, not the rest of the entire society...
People have white guilt for a reason. If these issues were truly self inflicted they would have been solved immediately after segregation ended. People act like black peoples parents and grandparents weren’t alive during that shit and everything was over once slavery ended
@NotAggainn white guilt exists because people don't understand "accountability". if a black person gets brutally murdered by a racist policeman, that is horrible. but just cause the policeman was white that doesn't make me as a white person somehow guilty and the reason some feel guilty about that is cause they're wrong about "how guilt and accountability works".
fun fact: the majority of black people that got bloody murdered where bloody murdered by other black people...
the habitus is something that can be relatively stable over generations and it's incredibly hard to strip off your habitus.
i mean i can make that example with you. how likely are you to completely change your way of conducting yourself away from how you learned it from friends, family and peers? that is the issue. it's hard and unlikely. it's not cause you're "coerced" to behave how you behave by some "race" or some suppressor. the enforcer of how you conduct yourself is: yourself.
by the way: no matter if you're black or white in america, your life is way better than that of African or chinese people whom you abuse to produce the products in your stores for way cheaper than you americans could ever produce them... how does that make you feel?
No it’s almost like your not the one who did it but you benefit from it? So no one is saying all white people are bad cause of what people did 50 years ago but you do benefit from what they did.
@NotAggainn I don't benefit from what they did. I live in a society where the majority is white and the minority is black. That isn't my fault, just like the history isn't my fault. My grandpa was a Nazi. That doesn't make me a Nazi or responsible to help the Jews.
@NotAggainn by the way: the Jews don't have severe disadvantages in today's Germany, why is that? Their oppression and enslavement is way more recent in history.
@NotAggainn it's almost like how you conduct yourself in your life that matters. Jews have their shit together. They have habitually very successful Livestyles that make them perform well. That's so obvious that Hitler managed to spin that into the idea that they must be suppressors that harm "the German people" almost like blm tries to do with white people now...
And also the situations aren’t comparable. White peoples had slaves for hundreds of years. Things were segregate until the 1960s and while states are still racist. There’s whole places that black people can’t go still because it wouldn’t even be safe for them. So your comparing to completely different things. You can’t rlly compare what America did to black people to any other country. Nobody said it was your “job” but the blm movement is needed , and if you think it’s racist chances are your pretty dumb and a racist yourself. I’m done as you don’t seem to want to be educated on something you don’t know anything about, ✌️
@NotAggainn did you know that historically the majority of "slave owners" were other black people down in afrika?
the fix is not to demand money from "those who have it better". the fix is to get better yourself. and the longer you fight this accountability and push it away, the longer the struggle will last.
and by the way the reparations the jews were paid can never fix what was done. the jewish people are hard in character and have very good habits that makes them succeed no matter how hard they are pushed down on.
that's something the black community has to adopt. cause you don't get better with handouts. you get better by fighting for what you have, even if it's harder for you.
of course i am no opponent of looking for actual structural inequality and i do support programmes like minority funding for education and such, if that shows to reduce the problem.
so if you disagree with all that, what's your suggestion how to improve the situation?
i am right now working on my masters degree in social science where i exctly try to figure out such problems and find what works to fix them... so if you think you know better, let me hear it and stop your unconstructive insults. give me some real critique and show me your own "oh so smart" ideas...
the victim card helps nobody. it enforces the place you're in. fight your way out. that's the mindset you need to overcome social inequality long term.
Why do you keep comparing black peoples and Jewish people it’s not the same thing at all 😂. Also “slaves” owned by Africans were more like endentured servants. Their kids were free and they didn’t have to work their whole lives.
Also your whole idea that black people as a group aren’t trying hard enough is actually pretty racist. It leads into the idea that “ black people are lazy “
@NotAggainn i keep comparing 2 minorities that face social inequality, though one is extremely successful and the other is relativel unsuccessfull compared to the majority. so you have to look at the difference. being a minority with a history of suppression appears not to be a predictor of success or failure. it seems to be more how the individual conducts him/her self.
jews were never free in history. specially not in medieval christian Europe. they were suppressed and even forbidden to learn christian craftsmanship in most parts of Europe and they were still very successfull despite this very extreme historical oppression. that is even expressed in average iq of jews being slightly above most caucasians, while black americans seem to score slightly slower.
so since "being a jew" is not "a race", that hints towards it both being results of habitual developments, so it's the habitual development that needs to change in those black subcultures, not the entire society.
i'm not being racist. i say they have to try harder than normal people. which sucks. but we're already doing as much as possible to support that. because doing more would be unfair to other groups of people.
by the way i still have not heard a constructive idea. just uninformed attempts to poke holes into what i say and continuing to insult me based on your baseless presumptions. so please contribute your idea so we can have a discussion.
like we're laredy severely disadvantaging Asian people, cause they perform so well overall, so we limit their access to university, which is quite bad if you look at this opposite end of the "equality" spectrum. so preference and inequality are often mutualy exclusive so helping one harms the next.
Ethnic minorities and religious minorities shouldn’t be compared. You can’t look at a person and see their Jewish but you can look at a person and immediately tell their black. This lends to much worse treatment to black people. Also much more of America is severely racist than severely antisematic
I don't know why you think those things are all equal... it’s like saying one person got their foot chopped off and the other person got their head chopped off. Both bad yes but not comparable
@NotAggainn your very dismissive of the jews success. Jews in Europe for hundreds of years were forced to live in ghettos and were deliberately held back but despite it they were able to succeed because of their hard work and focus on education, even though educational institutions were closed to them it was done through synagogues. There was no welfare, reparations or handouts so they had to work hard to succeed. When restrictions on jews started to be lifted in the 19th & 20th century the Jews thrived and the lessons learned while being held back and persecuted is what made them succeed and climb disappropritionatly higher than most other groups in Europe and the Americas of course that bred resentment in the 20th century. The Jews never got reparations except the return of stolen property by the nazis Also African slavery was like any slavery, they came to your village or city and took you by force, either to work you or sell you to arabs or Europeans. An Atlantic crossing was easier than a death march to the slave markets of Cairo. African slavery is the oldest in the world and still continues today.
@NotAggainn those things are comparable, cause social spheres are consistent with confession, ethnicity and sometimes areas of living. Habitual development takes place within those social spheres and that's how those problems arise.
By the way I still didn't hear one single solution approach from you.
@american_centurion exactly what I'm trying to say. If Jews can thrive in the harshest oppression, why can't black people thrive while they're being supported? Sure there's still some racism but specially black men still underperform. Black women not so much by the way. They are the fastest growing University group of all at the moment.
I’m not dismissive if it at all. It’s extremely impressive. You just can’t really compare the two groups of people as their situations are completely different
Are u American. Cause Jewish people definitely aren’t experiencing the harshest oppression right now, people can’t even look at you and tell your Jewish. Since Jewish isn’t a rave you don’t fill it out in job applications ir government forms. If someone was really prejudice against Jews ( which is as common now a day’s especially in the US) and they were someone who affected whether you got a job or whether you’d get killed by the good you simply just wouldn’t mention it. Black people can’t do that and it’s quite frankly very offensive that you keep trying to call them the same thing
Yeah, I remember they said the same thing in 2016, right up until he won. You're listening to the same polls by the same pollsters who projected Hillary's chance of winning at 98% just 12 hours before she got smashed. Keep believing fake news, that's how you get faked out every time.
EVERYBODY knows whose fault this "recession" is, commie prick. And everybody knows who to vote for to get the economy back on track, and it sure ain't fuckin' Joe Biden.
I fucking laugh to the point of tears thinking that you had four years to put up a decent candidate to rally all the Trump-haters and the best you could do in that time. . . the BEST you can fucking come up with. . . IS JOE FUCKING GODDAMNED BIDEN? THAT'S YOUR GUY? JOE BIDEN? YOU'RE SURE?
@Bananaman177 I remember you said the economy was gonna be great. The economy sucks and unemployment is higher than it's ever been. Also, abortion is still legal and the wall hasn't been built.
Yea from liberals who ignore the facts of the situations. People have a legal right to protest in a public place not break through a gate and harass people on their own property. If they had shot them they would have deserved it.
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Id do the exact same thing that lady in the picture did.
They are true heroes. The fact they’re tried and true liberals is even funnier
If they would have gotten shot for attempting anything stupid then they deserve to be shot to death.
Who are you referring to? This could co for either side how you wrote this.
@berserk945: Clearly the homeowners holding and pointing guns.
True the had horrendous firearms edict, however they have a right to protect their property. The mob already showed that they are willing to break the law be tearing down the gate to the community thats says in multiple locations "no trespassing.
I just don't think this whole this is very productive.
BLM needs to find jobs instead of living off of the money Uncle Obama gives to them and Soros
black lifes matter is a racist movement. so this isn't surprising.
That’s the dumbest thing I’ve ever heard. Racist to who? It’s like people fighting for fair treatment and rights. So is that racist cause white pol want to keep all of it or is their done other reason
@NotAggainn people are not "fighting for fair treatment". they are antagonizing a white majority, appealing to "white guilt", not being accountable for their own actions and instead looking for "systemic" oppression where there is none. the only people that can fix the issues of black people are black people, cause the issues are caused by themselves. they're trying to hold white people accountable for their misery, when it's self-inflicted.
of course on the surface level, you see black people performing less well in the economic system and being way more prone for criminal activity, unemployment and single motherhood. however those aren't caused by "male white suppressors". black lifes don't matter. just like white lifes don't matter
what matters is what every individual makes out of their life and it has never been easier than now for black people to break the mold and go to university, get educated and change te stereotype, cause black people actually have the "privilege" of minotrity support funding, which is unfair for white people but it tries to correct what they are failing to correct.
the cause is habitual misstakes in black communities. those need to be fixed, not the rest of the entire society...
@NotAggainn calling something is dumb before you understand it is... sorry to say... pretty dumb
People have white guilt for a reason. If these issues were truly self inflicted they would have been solved immediately after segregation ended. People act like black peoples parents and grandparents weren’t alive during that shit and everything was over once slavery ended
@NotAggainn white guilt exists because people don't understand "accountability". if a black person gets brutally murdered by a racist policeman, that is horrible. but just cause the policeman was white that doesn't make me as a white person somehow guilty and the reason some feel guilty about that is cause they're wrong about "how guilt and accountability works".
fun fact: the majority of black people that got bloody murdered where bloody murdered by other black people...
the habitus is something that can be relatively stable over generations and it's incredibly hard to strip off your habitus.
i mean i can make that example with you. how likely are you to completely change your way of conducting yourself away from how you learned it from friends, family and peers? that is the issue. it's hard and unlikely. it's not cause you're "coerced" to behave how you behave by some "race" or some suppressor. the enforcer of how you conduct yourself is: yourself.
by the way: no matter if you're black or white in america, your life is way better than that of African or chinese people whom you abuse to produce the products in your stores for way cheaper than you americans could ever produce them... how does that make you feel?
Ahhh is your guilt baking you deflect?
No it’s almost like your not the one who did it but you benefit from it? So no one is saying all white people are bad cause of what people did 50 years ago but you do benefit from what they did.
@NotAggainn I don't benefit from what they did. I live in a society where the majority is white and the minority is black. That isn't my fault, just like the history isn't my fault. My grandpa was a Nazi. That doesn't make me a Nazi or responsible to help the Jews.
@NotAggainn by the way: the Jews don't have severe disadvantages in today's Germany, why is that? Their oppression and enslavement is way more recent in history.
@NotAggainn it's almost like how you conduct yourself in your life that matters. Jews have their shit together. They have habitually very successful Livestyles that make them perform well. That's so obvious that Hitler managed to spin that into the idea that they must be suppressors that harm "the German people" almost like blm tries to do with white people now...
Cause Germany did their reparations to Jewish people correctly lol. That’s why good question though, you tried
And also the situations aren’t comparable. White peoples had slaves for hundreds of years. Things were segregate until the 1960s and while states are still racist. There’s whole places that black people can’t go still because it wouldn’t even be safe for them. So your comparing to completely different things. You can’t rlly compare what America did to black people to any other country. Nobody said it was your “job” but the blm movement is needed , and if you think it’s racist chances are your pretty dumb and a racist yourself. I’m done as you don’t seem to want to be educated on something you don’t know anything about, ✌️
@NotAggainn did you know that historically the majority of "slave owners" were other black people down in afrika?
the fix is not to demand money from "those who have it better". the fix is to get better yourself. and the longer you fight this accountability and push it away, the longer the struggle will last.
and by the way the reparations the jews were paid can never fix what was done. the jewish people are hard in character and have very good habits that makes them succeed no matter how hard they are pushed down on.
that's something the black community has to adopt. cause you don't get better with handouts. you get better by fighting for what you have, even if it's harder for you.
of course i am no opponent of looking for actual structural inequality and i do support programmes like minority funding for education and such, if that shows to reduce the problem.
so if you disagree with all that, what's your suggestion how to improve the situation?
i am right now working on my masters degree in social science where i exctly try to figure out such problems and find what works to fix them... so if you think you know better, let me hear it and stop your unconstructive insults. give me some real critique and show me your own "oh so smart" ideas...
the victim card helps nobody. it enforces the place you're in. fight your way out. that's the mindset you need to overcome social inequality long term.
Why do you keep comparing black peoples and Jewish people it’s not the same thing at all 😂. Also “slaves” owned by Africans were more like endentured servants. Their kids were free and they didn’t have to work their whole lives.
Also your whole idea that black people as a group aren’t trying hard enough is actually pretty racist. It leads into the idea that “ black people are lazy “
@NotAggainn i keep comparing 2 minorities that face social inequality, though one is extremely successful and the other is relativel unsuccessfull compared to the majority. so you have to look at the difference. being a minority with a history of suppression appears not to be a predictor of success or failure. it seems to be more how the individual conducts him/her self.
jews were never free in history. specially not in medieval christian Europe. they were suppressed and even forbidden to learn christian craftsmanship in most parts of Europe and they were still very successfull despite this very extreme historical oppression.
that is even expressed in average iq of jews being slightly above most caucasians, while black americans seem to score slightly slower.
so since "being a jew" is not "a race", that hints towards it both being results of habitual developments, so it's the habitual development that needs to change in those black subcultures, not the entire society.
i'm not being racist. i say they have to try harder than normal people. which sucks. but we're already doing as much as possible to support that. because doing more would be unfair to other groups of people.
by the way i still have not heard a constructive idea. just uninformed attempts to poke holes into what i say and continuing to insult me based on your baseless presumptions. so please contribute your idea so we can have a discussion.
like we're laredy severely disadvantaging Asian people, cause they perform so well overall, so we limit their access to university, which is quite bad if you look at this opposite end of the "equality" spectrum. so preference and inequality are often mutualy exclusive so helping one harms the next.
Ethnic minorities and religious minorities shouldn’t be compared. You can’t look at a person and see their Jewish but you can look at a person and immediately tell their black. This lends to much worse treatment to black people. Also much more of America is severely racist than severely antisematic
I don't know why you think those things are all equal... it’s like saying one person got their foot chopped off and the other person got their head chopped off. Both bad yes but not comparable
@NotAggainn your very dismissive of the jews success. Jews in Europe for hundreds of years were forced to live in ghettos and were deliberately held back but despite it they were able to succeed because of their hard work and focus on education, even though educational institutions were closed to them it was done through synagogues. There was no welfare, reparations or handouts so they had to work hard to succeed. When restrictions on jews started to be lifted in the 19th & 20th century the Jews thrived and the lessons learned while being held back and persecuted is what made them succeed and climb disappropritionatly higher than most other groups in Europe and the Americas of course that bred resentment in the 20th century. The Jews never got reparations except the return of stolen property by the nazis
Also African slavery was like any slavery, they came to your village or city and took you by force, either to work you or sell you to arabs or Europeans. An Atlantic crossing was easier than a death march to the slave markets of Cairo. African slavery is the oldest in the world and still continues today.
@NotAggainn those things are comparable, cause social spheres are consistent with confession, ethnicity and sometimes areas of living. Habitual development takes place within those social spheres and that's how those problems arise.
By the way I still didn't hear one single solution approach from you.
@american_centurion exactly what I'm trying to say. If Jews can thrive in the harshest oppression, why can't black people thrive while they're being supported? Sure there's still some racism but specially black men still underperform. Black women not so much by the way. They are the fastest growing University group of all at the moment.
I’m not dismissive if it at all. It’s extremely impressive. You just can’t really compare the two groups of people as their situations are completely different
Are u American. Cause Jewish people definitely aren’t experiencing the harshest oppression right now, people can’t even look at you and tell your Jewish. Since Jewish isn’t a rave you don’t fill it out in job applications ir government forms. If someone was really prejudice against Jews ( which is as common now a day’s especially in the US) and they were someone who affected whether you got a job or whether you’d get killed by the good you simply just wouldn’t mention it. Black people can’t do that and it’s quite frankly very offensive that you keep trying to call them the same thing
@NotAggainn we're talking about history. Dude. Black people were not oppressed in Germany but they still don't. Perform well here...
This blm movement is getting out of hand
I don't care either way. I'm not For BlM that's white on white crime
didn't they get their gu s confiscated?
I think the problem is only getting worse.
let them protest near their house. the family behaves with dignity, like any person in their place
We can learn from this that both sides have incredibly stupid people
lmao this fucking title...
And they were two BLM supporting Lefty lawyers.
source?
Never mind. Curmudgeon had a link (below)
Am about to see some real "purge shit" soon am watching.
Exactly that's why gun sales are so high
Next time you will see the American police and the army against the citizens, Since almost each family has a gun down the bed.
Most US gun owners that legally own guns support the police and military
Hmm how about those who purchase then from unlicensed dealers. Hhh
they broke into private property, they smashed the gates and everything, all the sidewalks and streets are property
their liars. i hate to bust their bubble-but not everyone supports trump-reality still exists.
they're.
BLM protesters were just walking by their house. Some people want to be victimized so bad.
Yeah after a month of burning down black neighborhoods
Protesters weren't on their property.
They broke their gate
This site has been taken over by conservative retards.
Are you afraid that there is no room left for liberal retards? Because there is still plenty of room
You think this is bad, wait until we pound the final nail in your coffin this November.
@Bananaman177 trump's approval rating is in the toilet and conservatives are turning on him
@SuccessfulHornDog there's no more room left for intelligence.
I'm sure you said that in 2016 when trump got elected
I'm sure you said the economy was gonna do great, but now we're in a recession and unemployment is at the highest since the great depression
Oh come on. We can all still post our thoughts whether we are left, right or middle. That is more important to freedom than stiffing the opposition
Yeah, I remember they said the same thing in 2016, right up until he won. You're listening to the same polls by the same pollsters who projected Hillary's chance of winning at 98% just 12 hours before she got smashed. Keep believing fake news, that's how you get faked out every time.
EVERYBODY knows whose fault this "recession" is, commie prick. And everybody knows who to vote for to get the economy back on track, and it sure ain't fuckin' Joe Biden.
I fucking laugh to the point of tears thinking that you had four years to put up a decent candidate to rally all the Trump-haters and the best you could do in that time. . . the BEST you can fucking come up with. . . IS JOE FUCKING GODDAMNED BIDEN? THAT'S YOUR GUY? JOE BIDEN? YOU'RE SURE?
@Bananaman177 I remember you said the economy was gonna be great. The economy sucks and unemployment is higher than it's ever been. Also, abortion is still legal and the wall hasn't been built.
Both of them have become memes
Yea from liberals who ignore the facts of the situations. People have a legal right to protest in a public place not break through a gate and harass people on their own property. If they had shot them they would have deserved it.
Lmfao do you get angry at memes?
No I really don't care about memes one way or the other they are stupid
The showed a lot of restraint to not shoot anyone
Restraint would have been not pointing lethal weapons at people. Or, indeed, staying indoors until something was done that affected them.