All of the SCIENCE! people really annoy me. I am a scientist. There's a quote we all reference often, "if we knew what we were doing, it wouldn't be called research." We aren't gods. We aren't omniscient. Do you realize just how much we screwed up mrna vaccines before? Something always goes wrong at every single step. Whenever something goes right, that is when I'm surprised. If something looks like it's working, I immediately search harder because I'm pretty sure it's not. They all know this too. Why else do they need full immunity in case something like thalidomide 2.0 happens? The people who made it don't trust SCIENCE!. And you all base your trust on them. I just really want to yell to stop trusting us to everyone. We are not your saviors. We screw up like everyone else. (Plus, I'm pretty sure SCIENCE! got us the coronavirus, https://www.nature.com/news/engineered-bat-virus-stirs-debate-over-risky-research-1.18787 Also Nature is running defense so they can still get Chinese research articles. Don't pay any attention to their editor's note. China, after all, blocked investigations into the lab).
I was going to originally write this in response to @purplepoppy but it can serve as a general message.
Unfortunately the negative side effects include death, and quite a lot of them. At least according to the UK government's yellow card database system, which so far has reported almost 1000 deaths and 500000 'adverse incidents'. The government by it's own figures estimate that only 10% of severe incidents are reported. Interestingly today I've just heard an anecdote that the database is not letting bereaved family members select death as an outcome.
https://www.ukcolumn.org/ukcolumn-news/uk-column-news-19th-april-2021
This is extremely disturbing for three main reasons.
This experimental poison is being injected into our family members.
The media, government and health professionals are not reporting this. They are not providing informed consent. Everyone I speak to about this jab don't seem to have the basic factual knowledge about it (that it is still in stage 3 trials; what the purpose of a stage 3 trial is; that it only has emergency use authorisation, not full approval; the awareness of the deaths or the existence of the yellow card reporting system, the list goes on).
We pretty much have not the foggiest what the long term effects will be. Except appeals to authorities. Appeals to authorities don't constitute good science, and that kind of arrogance has a habit of biting back pretty hard. This is folly of the highest order.
My husband and I have had both doses of the Pfizer vaccine and it was because we believe the science.
Now that the vaccine is so easy to get I would hope that by late June or July they would remove the mask and distance restrictions and totally open up the country. Everyone vaccinated will be safe and no excuse for someone not to be vaccinated so open everything back up %100 and too bad so sad for anyone who gets the virus. Let them crawl and beg as they die. Many aspects of travel is going to require proof of vaccination soon as well.
I had one relative die from the virus and another who came close. I did have some concerns about taking a new vaccine but ultimately decided it was the right choice for me. I also had to be concerned about the loved ones around me, some of whom are vulnerable to this virus. I took the Moderna vaccine. The mRNA platform has been in development for over a decade including various human trials beyond the COVID trials, so I saw it as an acceptable risk... but every individual will have to make their own decision on it.
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A, C, D. The vaccines are safe and very effective, and are our only way back to "normal" life. Want concerts again? Get vaccinated. Want to not have to wear your mask in public for the foreseeable future? Get vaccinated. Want the economy to recover? Get vaccinated. Want to travel again? Get vaccinated.
I'm all vaccinated, but I had Covid back in July 2020 too. Have you noticed that a good portion of people who refuse to take it:
* are staunch right wing Republicans
* are "Big Lie" believers and trump supporters
* think Covid is just another flu, if they believe it's not a hoax
* think that it could be a hoax because they don't know anyone personally who's died from it, and if they do, that person was old, sickly and would have died anyway from a regular flu
* won't volunteer to work on the Covid unit of a hospital with no personal protection - because maybe it isn't a really a hoax !!
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Refusing, because almost everybody trying to convince me to get it is either a proven liar (Fauci), has been wrong about nearly everything (also Fauci, and public health "experts" in general) or evil (Democrat politicians).
Based on the numbers it looks like demand for the vaccine is going to be nearly zero in another two months or so, which means everybody who wants it will have gotten at least the first dose by then and everybody who does not want it will understand the risk. That means time to go back to normal, no more masks (not that I wore one to begin with) no more capacity limits and no more lockdowns.
I took the vaccine to not wear a dam mask. I hate fogging up my glasses the dam thing keeps popping off, Hair and glasses get in the way given that my hair goes past my shoulder blade so because of the hair and glasses there no room for the strap. Also I’m pretty sure these masks don’t work, Like I’ve never gotten a proper explanation on why California New York and New Jersey have fully mask this entire time and Texas Florida and South Dakota have not been wearing a mask this entire time except for that 15 days to slow the spread and they are doing really well. So I’m pretty sure the mask do not work.
1. I already had COVID and it wasn't that bad, I recovered within a week. COVID is so weak over 50% of cases are asymptomatic.
2. Pfizer and Moderna both negotiated complete civil liability immunity protection for the vaccines. That doesn't spell much faith. This means the vaccines could literally give you a 50% chance of cancer, and you could not sue them.
3. They vaccines have emergency use authorization in the USA. That is, they are not tested and accepted by the FDA in the same way regular vaccines are yet.
4. Given how the mRNA of the vaccine impacts your immune system to not release a cytokine storm, there is concern it could alter your cells' reactions to immune threats and cause cancer cells to not be killed properly. (you literally get cancer every day, but your immune system kills it fast.)
Eh, I'm somewhere in the middle. I'm not "anti vax" by any stretch and have just about every vaccine under the sun. I was actually gearing up to get the J&J shot a couple weeks ago when they temporarily pulled it due to rare blood clotting in females. Well, one of those females lived close by me. What they didn't report is that she's actually in an induced coma and has needed 3 surgeries for blood clots in her brain. She's only 18. This made me majorly side-eye everything. If the shots were truly FDA approved and not just emergency authorized and had gone through the traditional years of rigorous testing including on animals, then ok. But since they bypassed all that, as of now, I have no interest in being an unofficial lab rat.
This was rushed no testing if something happens in a year or two you can not sue. Blood clots Fluid in lungs sudden death from one hour to six weeks after shots. This is only a few of the problems so far. Of course Face book took down the Covid19 site because of some fake made up bullshit. Before it shut down it had thousands of horror stories of vaccine reactions so I will wait a while longer. Government s lie and lie and lie and flip and flop just look at their Doctor changes like the wind. Everyday something different what ever the Government tells him parrots
Because despite all the stupid politics going on in our country I trust our scientific community and the process to get something approved is solid. You have go through 4 phases with plenty of testing and rinse and repeating before something is approved. So that's why I took the vaccine. People also wanna complain about it being too rushed or not knowing the ingredients that's in these vaccines and drugs. I'll I will say to that is that people don't know half the shit they are eating in all these processed foods and yet they still choose to eat them.
I'm getting it. I'm the type of person who will catch a flu and hold on to it for a month, I don't want to risk catching covid and having it damage my body more than it already is. I already deal with chronic pain, I don't need lung or heart problems too
I'm getting it. Yes some people will have negative side effects but that's true for any medication.
I just took it because certain people are making me do it especially when I tested negative, and like every temporary health problem someone thinks I have covid like insomnia, brain trauma and throat problems but eh I didn't believe it because I do have a psychiatric problem which is depression and it ain't new I had it for almost a decade.
Like it was persistent depression from the start then it adapted to major depression where some of my 6 senses are disruptive like I can't smell much so easily and I barely taste anything when I eat, I don't really sleep regularly, and new side effects come in the process.
Refusing. I had COVID back early February last year before they put in the lockdowns and mandates. To go along with busted ribs and working a few jobs.
Doc had no idea what it was, I thought it was Bronchitis or Pneumonia. Told me to take a couple of days to rest and hit work when I felt better. Was down for about two days then back at it.
Got blood work done not too long ago confirming antibodies. That was the last time I got sick. Been fine since.
I am neutral. But I personally decided to take this vaccination because I felt that it was the best thing for my own personal health. I do not judge anyone else's personal decision. (However, I will say that I think it's a good idea. And I can give Pfizer a thumbs up.)
I’m taking it to protect myself and others. The other more selfish reason is because I miss traveling and being vaccinated means I can go to more countries/travel with less worries. I got both my pfizer doses as well and had almost no symptoms. Just felt a little tired for a day after the second dose and my arm was sore. That’s it!
The same people who deny the vaccine because they are afraid of what’s in it are the same people who eat McDonalds, Burger King, Arby’s, Wendy’s, etc. without any issues at all 🤣🤣
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First of all it's my body, my choice. If I die of Covid that's my issue. The vaccinated do not need to fear that, right?
Most importantly, though, is the lackluster research on the matter. Which goes back to my body my choice. The risk clearly outweights the benefits. Normal vaccines usually need have 3-5 for common and over 8 years for new vaccines to research long term side effect. No matter the money and effort put into those vaccines currently, there is simply no data on the long term effects and I refuse to be a labrat for big pharma.
Because they've had this all planned for a long time, especially using vaccines to control others through microchipping to force us into all digital IDs, banking, and medical all inside of us. Not to mention they want to depopulate Earth and was even talking about it in the news right before this came out.! They've even had technology for this patented years previous. Bill Gates has already got caught in Africa giving vaccines with nothing but sterilization drugs in them as preventing us from reproducing is one way to depopulate and death and sickness is the other alternative and with these mRNA drugs that change your DNA permanently and having stated that it does not prevent covid, then why on God's green earth are you sticking poison into your body to fight something that isn't lethal but by only 3%? Evidently not everyone is born with commonse or doesn't use it. These people have an agenda and they have been the cause of death and destruction for thousands of years.
I’ve had my first jab having the second in July I trust it and believe that the benefits outweigh the negatives
Im taking it because its the correct thing to do and if i didn't i would be an asshole who doesn't care about infecting other people with a deadly disease.
yeah i said it you anti vaxxers!
I'm getting my first dose next week. I'm excited, this is the great thing about science in the 21st century. They wouldn't release a vaccine to the entire world if it wasn't safe, not one person has died as a result of it.
