Everyone hates covid restrictions but if they brought down case #'s wouldn't that be in everyones best interest?

[Anonymous]

i mean if you don't play sports or go to the gym for a couple weeks in the long run is that really that big of a deal? compared to the fact some people are going to die or become seriously ill from covid in the coming days and weeks.

no one seems to like covid restrictions but can anyone suggest anything else that would bring the numbers down to a more manageable level?

[NamerOfStars]

Suggest? No. Tell? Yes.

Putting restrictions in place doesn't save lives. This disease isn't going to go away; it's not lethal enough. Even if it WAS, every single mammalian cell on the planet has ACE2 receptors, meaning that every single mammal is a potential carrier, and a potential infection vector. The original idea of "two weeks to slow the spread" was based on the idea that everyone was going to get Covid eventually, and that it would just overwhelm and collapse the hospital system. That didn't happen. The field hospitals that were set up were taken down, many without ever seeing a single patient. The hospital ships sent to each coast saw less than a thousand patients- TOTAL. Covid simply isn't as dangerous as China initially said it was.

Now I'd like you to add these seemingly unconnected factors up: a lack of danger, a total inability to stop or contain the virus, and all the damage being done by the restrictions. Have you figured it out yet? I'll spill it, anyway: case numbers are a GOOD thing. Get infected and recover, and you'll be contributing to herd immunity. Once that threshold is hit, the people who actually ARE at risk from Covid- the old, the infirm, the sickly- will be able to renter society safely. Kicking the can down the road doesn't improve anything for anyone, especially since all the emphasis has been on prevention, rather than treatment.

Do what Florida, Texas, and Sweden did- open back up. Their epidemics are over. Delaying things does nothing but cost more lives.

[BeMuse]

Meanwhile in countries with a lot of restrictions and high vaccination rates the cases are through the fucking roof we're talking 500-2000 cases per 100K population... Go check Gibraltar, Portugal, Malta, Iceland, Spain, Denmark, Belgium, France, UK, Ireland, etc. over the past 7 days for cases per 100K. In the USA the worst affected states are places with harsh restrictions and high vaccinations rates like New York and New Jersey. Florida has done well for such a highly urbanized large state with no restrictions this entire time. Even in Florida, when you examine where there are problems spots it is in Democrat run shit holes like Miami-Dade county with high vaccination rates of 98.6% and paranoid mask cultists. Meanwhile were I live in Florida there are less than 20 cases per 100K population and no one wears masks except snowbirds from the north east who tend to bring the disease with them and account for 90-100% of our hospital covid patients.

[BeMuse]

Stop watching the media and start looking at the numbers...

[FictionalCharacter]

The news is fuckin lying to the public. Or throwing everything out of proportion.

Sure you can say “don’t go out to public areas.” Even if the public business is already closed or there’s only 5 customers there. Along with short employment staffs.

BUT……..

The news and ‘numbers’ are going to say: “there are hundreds of people at the gym. We need more restrictions and laws.” While the public is showing proof that there is hardly anyone going out and Facebook/Twitter/YouTube, delete all evidence. Because it goes against their guidelines.

Watch the news more CAREFULLY. People are getting evicted from apartments or applying for assistants to have somewhere to live. Because they are not EARNING money from businesses that government and health officials choose to close down.

[Soteris]

If everyone took covdi restrictions seriously we could have all quarantined for 3 weeks and be done with it completely. As a bonus you would also eliminate countless other diseases that spreads through the population such as the common cold/flu. It is a relatively small personal sacrifice and we would not need to spend literally years suffering for the consequences like now.

[normalice]

The problem is only half the population is trying to follow the guidelines. But because disease transmission tends to be a problem that grows exponentially, having only half follow the guidelines doesn't make much impact. So there is frustration on why anyone should follow the guidelines if there's always going to be that selfish element that will refuse to. Which wouldn't be too big of a deal except that selfish element has grown from marginal to basically being the entire Republican party.

[Asker]

i live in Canada so kind of different , we still have a radical right fringe here but more like 10 % of the population. the younger people seem to have more of an issue following the rules and there political views don't seem to be different like left or liberal teens don't want to follow the rules it seems , they still have house parties

[joeldalton]

Glad you got your booster so omnicron could get you.

[normalice]

Aw, you wish I would die. That hurts my feelings because the opinion of someone who has all their opinions written for them by some billion dollar far right think tank and brainwashed into their skull is so unpredictable and important to me 😅

[joeldalton]

lol from the guy who has his opinions fed to him by billion-dollar pharmaceutical companies and mass media

[normalice]

Lol, I already pointed out your opinions were written for you. Don't copy me 😂

[joeldalton]

Yes, and you're projecting.

[normalice]

Sadly, no. I know how much it would mean to you if there was some evidence that all the ignorant crap the far right fake news shovels into your brain ended up reflecting the world, but I can't provide that illusion for you.

[joeldalton]

Follow the ScIEnCE

[normalice]

I already knew you were brainwashed into mocking science. You didn't have to demonstrate it for me 😅

[joeldalton]

you consumed a product that didn't work, so now you blame the failure of the product you consumed on the people who didn't consume it. An astounding level of retardation.

[normalice]

Nah, it worked.

And if you think science didn't go into the far right think tanks fully figuring out how best to speak to a bunch of worthless incels and turn them into blood thirsty braindead voters for tax cuts for the rich, you are mistaken.

[joeldalton]

If it worked, why are you supposed to still wear a mask, socially distance, get tested regularly?

[normalice]

You replied to this opinion without reading it? You're a just a dedicated far right troll to the bone, eh?

Here's a quiz to check for reading comprehension:
1. What is the frustration about following guidelines?
2. How much of the US population is politically motivated by selfishness?
3. Does disease transmission grow exponentially or linearly and why does it matter for taking precautions such as masking, testing, and socially distancing?

[joeldalton]

It would just be more honest for you to admit it doesn't make any sense, but since you can't, that's why you deflect.

The disease wouldn't spread if your shots worked. But since we're in a pandemic of the vaccinated, you have to flounder around for the appropriate propaganda to spout.

[normalice]

0/3. F-

I can see why you are so mad at science, given how bad you are at understanid it. I'll give you the hint that you have to give up any personal quest to validate your feelings. Science doesn't do that for you. And I suppose it makes sense you would be mad at science if validating your feelings is all you want in this world, and if anything science only ever invalidates them, but you could also just spontaneously decide to grow up 🤷‍♂️

[joeldalton]

How many boosters do you think will be enough for you? 3? 4? 6?

[normalice]

I'm saying they aren't even your feelings, anyway. You were brainwashed with them by someone far more clever than you or I. Billions have been spent figuring out how to turn you into an NPC with a fully programmable response. And, well, it worked perfectly.

[joeldalton]

You're projecting again

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DC1h6l-eXJw

[normalice]

I don't watch YouTube videos from far right trolls. And I already pointed out you were copying me. Projecting is just another way of saying copying, so now you're copying me saying you're copying me. You're determined to remain a manchild until someone shoves a pacifier in your fussy mouth, eh?

[joeldalton]

I know deep thought interrupts your programming

[normalice]

@joeldalton Only a completely gone moron would think some random internet graphic is a credible source of information. You're not a completely gone moron, are you?

[joeldalton]

Is it false? Yes or no will suffice.

[normalice]

I'm not going to fact check your graphic for you. Do your own homework 😂

But none of it changes the fact that you are a far right troll and I dismissed you as such from the start. You've helped pass the time while I was pooping but now I'm done. At any point yoinshoild decide to grow up but instead you prefer the comfort of your petty fake grievances. I can, and have, explained things to you, but I can't understand it for you. You have to actually try instead of try very hard not to. But, again, that would involve growing up and becoming an adult.

[joeldalton]

You typed a lot of words instead of "yes".

[normalice]

Because why would I type "yes" when it's probably not true? You've shown over and over you are eager to get your information from people who lie to you for their own purposes, as long as it makes you feel better. Nothing you say or do has convinced me you abruptly decided to grow up in the last hour 🤷‍♂️

[joeldalton]

lol. I gave you ScIENcE and you deny it.

[normalice]

No, you mocked science because it is too hard for you and doesn't validate your feelings. You could grow up but it's probably too late for that. Sadly, the rest of your life is pretty much predetermined at this point. Like any other addict, you will continue to trade whatever you must to get that fix of far right fake rage mushed into your head.

[joeldalton]

Projecting again.

[normalice]

Copying again.

[joeldalton]

You just don't like your cult behavior called out for what it is.

[normalice]

If that's what was happening, maybe, but you are brainwashed into repeating someone else's opinion with as little of your own thought as possible, because it pains you to use your brain for anything that doesn't involve feeling better about how useless you are 😅

[joeldalton]

You're really expressing your deep-seated views of yourself. I think this is good for you.

[normalice]

Oh, you must be confused. I was describing you 😂

[joeldalton]

Your conscious thought is that, but subconsciously you're revealing your true nature. Telling you that you're nothing but a bleating sheep.

[normalice]

Nope. Just describing you 😅

[joeldalton]

yup, there you go again. baaaaa

[normalice]

You're not even trying to type real words anymore. Better put your face back into the brainwashing machine so Roagan or Shapiro can tell you what to think about this 😂

[joeldalton]

Oh, you’re upset you aren’t as manly as Rogan. That’s the problem. He reminds you what a weak soy-boy you are.

[normalice]

I don't watch far right fake news. I just know you're addicted to the taste of his butthole 😂

[joeldalton]

You’re fascinated with the male butthole, huh. That’s weird.

[normalice]

I'm not the one who can't pull his tongue out of rogan's. That's you 😊

[joeldalton]

I’ve never even mentioned male buttholes, that’s your latent sexual preferences showing through. I bet you have bought your therapists cars with how many issues they have to work you through.

[normalice]

But everything you say reeks of the same shit that comes out of his mouth. It doesn't take any logic leaps to figure out where you bury your face when you need validation 😅

[Levin]

I doubt the science of it.

I support staying at home if you're ill.

and protecting the vulnerable with extra measures.

The rest is total unscientific bullshit.

People get sick. The body tries to maintain dynamic homeostasis through getting ill. Much illness is probably caused by poor nutrition and environmental factors, stress, etc. The terrain theory has validity.

In the scientific distortion we're subjected to, none of this has any validity.

[Socal99]

I think you need to keep your opinions to yourself you sound like a fucking ignorant motherfucker. You're obviously a Democrat or a far leftist get the fuck out of here with that bullshit. You do you and you let everybody else do themselves and if you're fucking concerned about covid like you sound so worried about it obviously because you don't take good care of your body and your immune system you fucking moron

[Rangers]

Lockdowns have more than proven to actually spike cases rather than slow them down, it's inevitable that most of us will be exposed to the virus at some point and it's better to stay active and build our immune system to better combat the virus rather than deprive people of their freedom and cause a pandemic of depression, suicide, and homicide as we already did in 2020 and 2021

[this_is_me_123]

Well, from the beginning instead of imprisoning the young and healthy, who were not likely to die even if by some small chance they did get the virus, they could have focused on simply protecting those most at risk (i. e. the elderly, obese, those with respiratory issues, et cetera). Isolate the most vulnerable, and allow the rest of us to just get on with our lives.
I guess they didn't do that because it would have made too much sense, and bureaucrats are not known for being terribly bright.

[BCA6010]

I don't care about "case numbers" and frankly nobody else should either. Deaths matter, and hospitalizations (people who stay, not just the neurotic freaks who visit every other day for petty issues and leave 30 minutes later) matter.

[FunkyMonkee]

It'd also be a HUGE help if they wouldn't constantly LIE about the case numbers OR the facts about disease, itself!!
We were already told of a cure for it a year ago but, nobody seems to want to believe any of that! So, SUFFER!

[Anonymous]

I don't know Israel is basically 100% vaccinated and everyday has the 4th shot.

I don't understand why people care. If you got the jab. You won't die so why are acting like death is still a factor.

People who don't get the jab and get sick you can't call out longer than 1-3 days.

88% of NYPD got the vaccine. and 6k of them called out. When we know they aren't sick sick.

With the vaccine it's just a common cold

[LegendaryIcon]

welcome to republican reasoning

they want something to end, but won't do what they need to do, in order to end it

that's republicanism for ya

[Leonharted]

We already did that for months. It had no effect, because the virus can pass between humans and animals.

[888theGreat]

The only way to stop Covid is ban Sex. Good luck with that. Same for HIV , you could completely get rid of it if all the people with it died and if people went a year without sex.

[Anonymous]

If the restrictions worked then we would have been done with this shit a long time ago.

[Asker]

the problem has been all the variants , it keeps changing into something else

[Opinion Owner]

Makes me wonder why all the variants are springing up now that the vaccines are out?

[Asker]

the variants usually appear later on with viruses , don't appear at the start

[JayLiche]

I think people are just over it…
Tired of Social distance, life without each other is torture

[joeldalton]

Wasn’t it a couple of weeks in March 2020? Idiot.

[Recurrence]

I don’t really mind masks and social distancing

[Juxtapose]

My essential liberties are non-negotiable.

[emperor90]

Yes it would be good to bring down

[Kingofkings1992]

Covid isn’t the problem and never was the problem.

[jahaims]

Nope