Is "herd immunity" still a realistic goal to end the covid pandemic?

[Anonymous]

Herd immunity: "Herd immunity occurs when a large portion of a community (the herd) becomes immune to a disease, making the spread of disease from person to person unlikely. As a result, the whole community becomes protected — not just those who are immune." https://www.mayoclinic.org/diseases-conditions/coronavirus/in-depth/herd-immunity-and-coronavirus/art-20486808

Yes, it is.

No, it is not.

[NamerOfStars]

*A* realistic goal? No. THE realistic goal? Yes- it's the only way it CAN end. It's simply not lethal enough to kill enough people to burn itself out, even if it WEREN'T communicable to every single mammal on the planet. If the available prophylactics actually prevented transmission (they're not vaccines, but I'd be willing to let that point slide if they actually did what vaccines are supposed to), they'd be an option for it, but they're not: they're quite leaky, and risk turning Covid into another Marek's disease.

The only way it can end- absent an actual (or functional) vaccine being developed, is enough people getting it and recovering that the infectable population falls below replacement level. All these measures in place to check the spread are just making it last longer.

[Soteris]

It is a super easy solution but considering how dumb people are it is probably going to be a struggle.

[anon171999]

Herd immunity is what I'm doing for me. I'm relying on my immune system and trusting my body. It's working and we're 2 years in.

[anon171999]

What other people are doing is up to them and their choice. If they want to social distance, where a mask, or get vaccinated then that's their choice.

[kyleelyn199723]

I don’t think so. If that was the case, the vaccinated people wouldn’t be catching the new variant.

[Goforit1010]

Yes, it is, but... these shots they give you, are basically useless against COVID. Especially since you can get COVID and spread it too, even WITH the shots. Every one we know who has COVID right now... ALL of them are "Fully vaccinated". Imagine that?

Ultimately, enough people will have had COVID to prevent its spread, specifically from the Omicron variant. That's nothing more than a typical common cold.

Getting the shots is pointless to prevent it. The best way to get to "herd immunity" is for enough people to contract COVID and develop natural immunity. The Gov't certainly has no idea what they're doing, and the medical community has become so politicized and financially incentivised to treat you like shit, IF you come to a hospital WITH COVID. Their COVID protocols do absolutely little to help you get over COVID. They'd rather make the $$ from the Gov't for letting you die from COVID than treat you with cheaper, effective methods.

[joeldalton]

The focus needs to be on theraputics. The shots, monoclonal antibodies, ivermectin, vitamin D, zinc, hydroxychloroquine all need to be promoted and used. We need to remove all restrictions on society and get rid of these evil shot passports.

[LZPanzer]

Ivermectin and hydrochloriquine don't work. They are anti parasites not anti Virals
Zinc and vitamin D are nutritional supplements not anti viral so they don't work either. Monoclonal antibodies only highlight the virus for the immune system. They don't do anything to teach immunity. It's literally cheating on a test. It's useful if you are currently dying but does nothing immunity wise. And this is just with a basic Google search.

[joeldalton]

@LZPanzer You’re absolutely incorrect.

[Gal67]

Actually, he's correct. Ivermectin and Hydroxychloroquine don't actually work for something like this.

[joeldalton]

@Gal67 Except he isn’t. 100s of studies show it works, along with Japan’s experience and Uttar Pradesh.

[Gal67]

Hundreds of studies. Oh good. Provide the link to just one :)

[joeldalton]

@Gal67 you’re capable of googling. I’m not playing that game with you.

[Gal67]

You think that providing evidence for a claim is "playing a game", do you? The fact that you can't back up your assertions here tells me all I really need to know about them.

[joeldalton]

@Gal67 lol. The literature is there.

[Gal67]

Well then, what are you waiting for? :)

[joeldalton]

@Gal67 I explained it clearly.

[Gal67]

You explained nothing, and 'LZPanzer' here seems to know a lot more about this subject than you do. Are you at all familiar with the expression, "The burden of evidence lies with the claimant"? It means that whenever someone makes a claim - ANY claim - it is incumbent upon that person to back up the aforesaid claim with a solid reason to believe that it's actually true (i. e. back it up with evidence).
Hey, I can claim to be Jesus Christ. Actually yes, I am, because I say so. Now prove me wrong. Go on, you can just 'Google' it can't you?

[Anonymous]

Sure... until they deliberately introduce MORE viruses and so-called "vaccines".
This wickedness will never stop until they kill off a substantial percentage of the worlds population. THIS IS THEIR GOAL