Remember when Neil Young blamed the gays for aids? Seems to me to be the case that Joe Rogan dared to have opinions of his own on covid, voice those opinions and interview medical professionals who have differing opinions from what the liberal elite say they shouldn't be allowed to be heard. Even the White House has joined in on trying to get him cancelled and anyone who speaks in his defence is attacked or given a warning. Next thing you know they will pull everything they can out of the their arsenal by trying to smear Rogan as a nazi, a racist, a bigot homophobic, Islamaphobic, sexist, misogynistic and no doubt false rape and a sexual harassment allegations will be made. Protests will happen outside his house, attacks on family. This is the America we live in where having your own opinions and exercising the free speech that isn't approved by the "Party" gets you lynched. The majority of people are appalled by Joe Rogan's treatment and stand with him. Keep on Rocking in the Free World Joe
Joe Rogan. Why exactly in your opinion is he being targeted for cancelling?
The problem with opinions is that their like assholes - everybody's got one and most of them stink like hell. Yes, your free to have your own opinions, but not your own facts. When Joe, or ANYONE else in the media, spreads information that just isn't true, or has no factual basis, under the guise of " that's my opinion and I'm entitled to it", you expect pushback. Does he always do that? Of course not. Does he sometimes do that? Very much so.
When it comes to the whole Covid issue, it's relatively easy to find some doctor, or doctors somewhere, who have the opinion you want to hear. But Joe isn't a doctor, nor does he have any medical expertise or pertinent knowledge, to even question any side of the Covid argument unless he were to do extensive research, and I do mean extensive, on the subject. It's fine to present many sides of the discussion, but picking one of those sides because it's what you want to hear versus what the data tells you, is a dangerous course.
I'm not for cancelling his show, that's stupid. My issue with Joe is that he should be a "host" and present topics, offering different sides of any issues from credible sources. He should stick to what he really "knows" when it comes to opinions and spreading information. And for the record, that's the same exact issue I have with ALL reporters, hosts, media personalities, etc.
(PS> Neil Young is a total strawman in this whole point. He's irrelevant to the real issue here)
There are many different sources currently for "facts on Covid", and it's difficult to find really accurate information. My personal go to for basic reliability is Johns Hopkins, and for research studies, The Pew Foundation. I answered a question about this in someone's earlier post. I can't find the link now, but Rogan actually apologized for getting his information wrong and said "I didn't know that... I read blah, blah, blah." It was something about a specific disease and the risk to a certain population. An expert in the field corrected him. I'll keep looking for that specific example.
But Covid isn't the only thing Rogan talks about, and I'm sure as shit not going to get into a tete-a-tete about Joe Rogan's many mistakes and crazy podcasts. It's just not that important to me. In my book, he's another Rush Limbaugh, nothing more, and certainly no smarter. When he's right, he's right. When he's not, he thinks he's right anyway. There's nothing new about that. I lost a lot of respect for him for choosing to give a platform to scammer and all-around lunatic Alex Jones. That doesn't fall into the realm of providing different viewpoints for me - Jones is just batshit crazy.
The annoying thing about Rogan is he thinks CNN "always lies" and Fox "never lies". He seems to think this mostly true about anything "right vs left". It doesn't make for intelligent discourse in my book. It's simply what I said before - opinions based on some facts, some spurious information, and a lot of conjecture.
No. You are spreading misinformation on this site. The medical physician Joe Rogan invited onto his podcast is a famous Dr. and CREATOR of the MRNA vaccine. The doctor shared his own opinion against government mandates. You have absolutely no authority to censor that physician. You are not an expert; NOR should other doctors in the field be entiteled to censorship of ANOTHER doctor's opinion. If you are afraid of opinions that differ from your own; turn off the damn podcast you MORON
@rebecca7fjdifg Who are you talking to? Who is the famous Dr. you refer to? I was referring to a different medical professional on a different subject. If you have an issue with censoring, talk to Spotify. They censored some 70 other podcasts of his.
Joe Rogan has more viewers than every prime time network tv anchor combined, and that would be considered acceptable if he played ball and followed the same scripted talking points, but he doesn't; he invites people with dissenting views onto his show and sometimes hosts debates, and even giving voice to opposition is pretty much a cardinal sin in the authoritarian liturgy. Joe isn't a conservative by any stretch, but he's to the right of Mao and generally approaches issues through the view of pragmatism or libertarianism, which also makes him a dangerous radical right-winger in their eyes. This is a guy who supported (and still supports) Bernie Sanders, but preferred Trump over Biden.
Because he hosts the most popular podcast in the country, this also means that if big media and big tech can leash him or take him down, then they can feasibly do it to pretty much anybody. It's very much a power play and an effort to silence any form of questioning, or information that doesn't fit perfectly with the government's chosen narrative.
I think the left needs to stop cancelling people. Pretty simple. We are entering into Soviet Union territory stuff and it needs to stop. twitter culture is mostly to blame. Meanwhile its a bunch of 18 year old social justice warriors typing on their keyboards in their parent's house. lmao
I don't like Rogan and he was bound to get a target painted on him
In general it's not hard to see it's the whats going on. No matter what, everyone in the media is a target. You will be attacked by the other side or attacked by your own side. Don't pick the narrative of side B and side B attacks you. Don't conform 100% to the narrative of side A and side A attacks you. Because that is how main stream media works. If you decide to be a rebel and point out the faults on both sides and gain a large enough audience, you are pretty much guaranteed to die of suspicious circumstances.
This entire mess has been playing out since the days of radio. People don't see it because they are to fixated on their politics and the politics of the other side.
Then I'm very much a outsider. Very much comes from politics and media's relationship becoming way to close and has been for way to long. Also I very much see politics as a corrupting and it's not coincidence that people quickly become a target once they start introducing politics onto any form of media. Also we reached a point where politics and media are not separate entreaties a long time ago. So everything has to be political or is turned political.
He interviewed a real doctor, and destroyed the Fauci cult. Now, the remnants, robbed of any basis for their two years of smug self-righteousness, want their egos avenged.
Jesus showed the Pharisees to be frauds. So they killed him. This is not so different.
Joe spent years pulling outlandish stunts, like convincing women to drink horse sperm for money.
But no one in high echelons of power cared who he was, until he went online and interviewed a doctor they were trying to silence.
Now, the world is being divided into those who'd defend him, and those who want him crucified.
It is a targeted attack by the musicians whose music is owned by Pfizer, then the mainstream media picked up on it in an attempt to knock off a competitor who is destroying them in the ratings.
It's total garbage, and Rogan is foolish for apologizing to this group of deviants.
Dude is definitely being targeted, and seriously there so much material in which he's been on record... joking or not. He's pissef off someone and the media is targeting him. But so far I think he's good. We have seen this happen so many times over years, we are all feed up with it. So he will survive... early 2000's late 90's he'd be toast.
But there are so many disparaging remarks about white out there and nobody says a word... we are over it now.
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He speaks honestly. He has a lot of guests on that are knowledgeable or influence that speak honestly, and the conversations are real and honest. He speaks truth against insanity he’s hearing and this he’s also a symbol for a lot of people. Thus there’s a particular political persuasion which is motivated to take him down, to silence him.
Problem for them is that he’s *so* big that no one will cancel him. He’s bigger than any news media. Weirdly enough this game show host / comedian / ufc host / entertainer / podcast host is literally the single most influential person in the world.
There will always be assholes on both sides. No one I read or listen to is asking for cancellation. I’ve enjoyed some older episodes of his. But he has gotten more alt right, and less likely to correct wild claims of his guests. Which was his staple. His assistant would turn on the big tv and they’d fact check in real-time.
Instead I have to fact check Dr Malone’s craziness and link to facts that isn’t his marketing. That’s all I’m asking. Don’t make me do Rogans fckin job.
Yawn. . . because folks are leaving Spotify, somehow this is an attack on Joe Rogan.
Y'all freaks are out of your fucking minds.
Spotify is standing by Joe. That's their business. But I don't have to listen to him. And for as long as I walk this earth, no backwards nonsensical troll is going to take that right away from me.
Every single person should decide if they want to listen to him or not. There shouldn't be a cancel culture that goes outside your own choice. He should be the only person that can cancel himself. The rest can simply unfollow and leave him alone. No one is forcing you to hear his opinions. He is only one person and his opinion isn't worth more than others.
Because he doesn't push the corporate narrative! They don't LIKE IT when people tell THE TRUTH!! It COMPLETELY undermines their agenda for the last 100 years or better of dumbing down the country and brainwashing them to believe EVERYTHING they tell you to believe!
He gets more views and has more influence. They want to get rid of him so they can push their agenda. They just cut and cherry pick stuff he does and says without context to try and paint a bad picture of him. He has something like 6000 hours of recorded actions and dialogue so that isn't hard to do.
I don't think he should be cancelled. He didn't spread Fake News. He talks to people of all ends of the spectrum. Even flat earthlers. Letting someone say their opinions is not "spreading missinformation".
well it's funny they aren't banned considering there's all sorts of censorship already going ona round the topic he was accused... and the missinformaiton is spread also by cdc, who and government bodies too. they just casually use the excuse that "they didn't know better and that's what the data they had said"... no. this is you lying. this is you spreading missinformation. this is you claiming something is "scientific consensus", when really it's an educated guess based on estimate modeling which inself is based on incomplete and flawed data... so if the official sources are dishonest, i think they shouldn't put stricter regulations to "telling the truth" than they abide by themself.
so the very reason flat earthlers exist is that official sources and people of authority have spend decades of jeopardizing their credibility. and what is done right now is the next step in dishonesty that will eventually create a global society that is antagonistic towards science...
at the time, even the CIA was blatantly aware that this is a lie. but they failed to handle a lying president properly and just didn't contradict his lie even though all the information was available.
yup. you kow i really wonder why they fuzz so much about the Kennedy files that are due... i bet it has some information in there, that will break the foundations of the currently running governemnt.
same as 9.11. there's a reason even professors in germany and switzerland who are seriously trying to research into this, suddenly lose their chairs somehow.
Well I have my own theories. Kennedy was killed over the bay of pigs invasion, the perceived loss in Cuban missile crisis by the US military and keeping the US out of Vietnam. 9/11 I believe there were al queada hijackers on the plane but they didn't crash the planes into the twin towers. Even the best experienced airline pilots would struggle to pull of a maneuver like, no they were allowed to hijack the planes and they were flown like drones into the buildings. Too much suspicious stuff happened in the rum up to 9/11 and of course a year prior to that the Clinton's negotiations with the tsliban broke down. Seems to be a case historically of most of our wars that some sort of engineered incident occurs that leads us into war and of course we have the moral justification to unite behind do WMDs, 9/11, bay of tonkin, Pearl harbour, US entry into ww1, Sadam's invasion of Kuwait, Spainish-America on and on it goes. Same thing was tried in Syria but the public didn't buy it
i think there were different reasons he was murdered. i think kennedy was also killed, cause he was making the public aware of deep state power structures that are actually more powerfull than the democratically elected strawmen that are present in the media and who are merely tools to keep the likelyhood of uprising of the people low. and the main acteurs in those structures do not like being transparent to the public, cause those structures don't work in democratic ways that people would agree with. actually the most famous speech he held in that regard is not even taught in schools. i wonder why?
as for 9.11. i think it's highly convenient for "some" people that the planes crashed into the buildings they did besides the twin towers. namely the pentagon... and it was also highly convenient that wtc7 collapsed without even a plane crashing into it... "some" acteurs traces that would otherwise have probably ended up in the potential future history books were forever deleted by that.
i mean let's face the truth here. yes alquaida was an existing terrorist group. but that group was basically built up by america. they wouldn't exist otherwise. or they would exist but not have that level of power and expertise.
CONTROLLED OPPOSITION Notice all the "JOES" in the news lately? 1. Joe Biden 2. Joe Rogan 3. Tiger King Joe Exotic (YEAR OF THE "TIGER") 4. Joe Burrow in the Super Bowl QB of Bengals (YEAR OF THE "TIGER") -connected to Joe Burrow are two other JOES, the only two QBs in NFL history to win the College National Title and win a Super Bowl in the NFL are... -a. JOE Namath -b. JOE Montana
He's targeted for cancellation because he scares the establishment. Millions of eyes turn to him instead of legacy media like CNN or MSNBC, and he says what they won't. Joe Rogan scares elitists because he is against them and he has an army of viewers who share his opinions.
I don't care whether he's cancelled or not. As far as I'm concerned let him keep on talking, but that doesn't mean I have to listen to anything he says. Just like "if you don't like what's on TV, change the channel."
Free speech occurs when one person states his opinion based on the facts he knows and when another person states an opposing opinion based on a set of facts.
People like Neil Young need to disappear. He is no longer relative. I guess good old Neil forgot his radical days back in the 60a and 70a when he was anti-government.
When a big liberal like Bill Maher calls out his own people for being nuts it might be time for the woke left to actually have an awakening.
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I agree there are those who want to cancel Rogan. However, when you use the n-word, it’s difficult to say you’re being smeared. That stands on its own.
those memes are terrible because none of them are even relevant and are misleading. the biggest and most obvious misleading thing is calling Joe Rogan or Russell Brand journalist.
I really cannot add much to what you have already said. It is encouraging though that he has such a big following and doesn't really care what the moonbats think.
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