Taser Drone To Stop School Shootings?

Question

A company called Axon is proposing to develop a drone that can taser a shooter and be used to disable the shooter in mass shootings, especially school shootings. What do you think? Would something like this work?

WhiteSteve · Accepted Answer

I mean no disrespect, Tom, but is it me or are we trying WAY too hard to dance around ANY KIND of modification to gun laws? I’m no spring chicken, but I was in high school 25-30 years ago, which in the grand scheme of time is nothing, and I just can’t wrap my head around what happened to us where we started having to worry about mass shootings in school, or just PERIOD. We were just starting to do metal detectors, in urban high schools, and that was just in response to targeted one-on-one shootings happening in tough areas. Now it’s the suburban schools getting shot up, and at random.

I know it’s foolish to think guns can be completely banned. I hate guns, but I understand that it can just never be a reality. And I understand that most gun owners are responsible. But unfortunately, like many things in life, our freedoms have to be restricted to account for the worst of us in mind. I know it sucks, I hate it too in other areas, but that’s just another sad reality.

My issue is just doing all these mental gymnastics to avoid saying that the guns are part of the problem. They’re not the only thing, for sure, there’s certainly something deeper to be considered and explored there, people have just gone crazy. Maybe there’s just too many of us, as I believe, and with that comes a heightened number of crazy assholes, just in the same relative percentage, maybe. It’s so layered, so nuanced, so…complicated, haha. I do think guns, particularly as they become more advanced, give people a psychological addiction to power and security that I don’t think is necessarily heathy, I think that needs to be looked at too. It’s kind of the attitude AROUND guns, this raising of the stakes to life-or-death that makes me uncomfortable. Even in a self-defense aspect, not a villainous offensive, I’m very troubled by anyone who has a “mess with me and I’ll take your life” mentality, that seems very defective to me. And I’m a “mess with me and I’ll punch you in the mouth” guy, I’m not some pacifist. I’d just personally rather live or die honorably by way of my fists than live or die dishonorably by way my gun or someone else’s. I was in New Hampshire yesterday, and for the first time in my life, I saw a civilian carrying a visible gun. It was shocking to me, honestly. Little short fat dude about 55-60, driving a pickup truck way too big for him, haha. I noticed he was cold and unfriendly to the cashier at the gas station we were at. Looked like he had one of those As Seen On TV holsters that I see on commercials when my dad is watching FoxNews. It was was on the inner side of his pants, but his shirt was tucked in to make the handle visible. And all I could think was “what in the WORLD do you need that for HERE? A moose?”😂 Literally the last place I would expect any sort of violent crime to take place, we’re in the friggin’ woods. I don’t know, I can’t judge his character beyond being unfriendly to clerks, and I don’t envision him as a “bad guy with a gun”, but if I lived around people just carrying guns everywhere I went, holy shit, man…. I mean, is that happening? Is this like swimming in the ocean and you have no idea that there are sharks all around you, they just aren’t attacking? I might need to move, this place is getting way too crazy, people are all fûcked up in the head if this is where we’re at. And I can’t help but notice it mostly just happens here, and I don’t think that’s a coincidence. But if we’re just in an endless cycle of “well, some bad guy I MIGHT encounter (but almost certainly never will) could have the most powerful gun manufactured (but probably won’t), so I have to be able to have it too!”…. yikes, man. Just yikes. There are places better than this, I’m sure of it, and all I have to do is go there. I love America the land mass, but the people are really starting to bug me out, I’m sorry to say.

SimpleGuy95 · Accepted Answer

I doubt that simply because that the risk is too high that those drones would miss and tase other people instead.
Plus who shall keep the drone and let it fly in a case of emergency and what do you do if the shooter already entered the building.
The primary school of Uvalde had many security cameras that should have made it easier to spot a shooter and they failed.
Besides that chances are high that the next shooting will happen before such a drone is developed and ready to be sold.

Anonymous · Accepted Answer

I suppose but tasers aren't 100% effective. What if they are wearing body armour?

Subarugirl · Accepted Answer

Or maybe heightened security and armed security guards….

BCA6010 · Answer

Yeah that's an insanely stupid idea, probably being pushed by either profiteers or people who have no clue what they're talking about. The first paragraph of the article rightly mentions that the tech advisors themselves think it's a bad idea.

Let's completely gloss over how effective a taser is, and get to how these things actually work in an otherwise perfect scenario: this thing has to be stored somewhere under lock and key, and whoever operates them has to be regularly trained and recertified on it (yes, these devices are and would be regulated), equipment tested and checked constantly, and any deficiencies have to be addressed immediately. It would take, optimistically speaking, a few minutes to get one of these out of storage, set up and deployed, and longer still to locate the shooter, who could also instantly negate this thing just by closing a door/barricading themselves in a room like what happened in Uvalde.

It's a whole lot of extra effort for something that can be much more quickly, effectively, and directly dealt with by armed on-site security or faculty.

NamerOfStars · Answer

Why is it that the only solutions ever offered to a gun violence-related problem in this country are "ban guns" and "give more people guns"? I get that those groups both have lobbyists that need to... do whatever it is that lobbyists do while the rest of us are being productive, but does NO ONE ELSE have any ideas?

This one is particularly stupid; who's going to operate them? How the HELL do you train people for it, given the rarity of school shootings? If they're too jumpy and shock an innocent person, that's a lawsuit- and if you insist on some kind of liability waiver, then nobody with ANY power to do otherwise will send their kids there. If they're too slow, THAT'S a lawsuit, and even if it gets dismissed, no one's going to hire the company again.

That's on TOP of the Orwellian element.

Telekinetic-Potato · Answer

I think it would be useful to develop but I could see that backfiring pretty badly. I would want something like that developed by the best of the best and ideally, the command to fire the taser should be done by a person who can decide the risk of missing the target.

SamIam96 · Answer

Thanks for the update. The idea is stupid. What were they envisioning? A shooter is closed up in a classroom. Someone goes to the door, opens it so the drone can fly in...

grega239 · Answer

Stupid. Tasers are unreliable since there were cases where the person being tased just shrugged it off.

Whats with this pacifism.

If someone is going around shooting , fucking shoot them back. Stop being cowards

Drumlin2001 · Answer

How long till its hacked? How does it know who the offender is? Surely it needs an operator? How well trained would they be?

Citizenkirk · Answer

I can see the potential for great harm in abusing this technology.

007kingifrit · Answer

the first solution is to stop the media saying names of shooters on TV to prevent copycat crimes. shooters are activated by a phenomenon known as the "media contagion effect" where shooters seek fame and are envious of the attention the previous shooter has gotten

Static_In_The_Attic · Answer

You have security screening at airports & if you had security screening at schools things would be different.

JustinTheGreat · Answer

If the shooter is in the building how is the drone gonna get inside to tase them? 🥴

Andres77 · Answer

There's more effective tools already available but the government won't use them. Taking down 2A is a primary goal.

Slartybartfast · Answer

We need to arm the preschoolers, as they haven't learned to win I suggest we give them hand grenades.

Grubhub · Answer

That drone will probably kill unarmed black kids lol

Pohjolan · Answer

Sure send them in. Chances are they won't manage to disable the shooter at least permanently but they are scouts and a distraction. Better for the shooter to concentrate on pesky buzzers than humans.

DryGermanGuy · Answer

So, this drone can open doors? I'm impressed!!! :-o

douride2 · Answer

What they need is a drone that will blow the mother focker off the face of the earth.

Whatever2929292 · Answer

It depends really. Like anything there is a time and place to use something

RationalMale · Answer

I mean... the left doesn't want cops to protect schools because they'll arrest students who commit crimes, or teachers to be armed... so that seems like the next best thing.

BoobMan · Answer

I'm not sure it if it would work, but it sure as hell sounds better than hanging around outside for a couple of hours while everything is going down.

zagor · Answer

Yeah most "solutions", especially technological solutions, to such incidents require that the incident follow a very specific pattern.

MysteriousDarkness · Answer

If the person is inside already how will the drone get inside the building if no doorsor windows are open for it to go through.

Juxtapose · Answer

Or maybe the cops should have done their jobs or let the parents in the building but fuck things that make sense 🤷‍♂️

genericname85 · Answer

this sounds like a solution that would at best be way too late.

DiegoO · Answer

Geez, the 2nd amendment is more a problem than anything else. Just ban military fire arms.

Agape93 · Answer

That's amazingly stupid

exitseven · Answer

I think it would be tough to use indoors.

Levin · Answer

Umm, does the drone open doors?

purplepoppy · Answer

Wouldn't he just shoot it

England4eva · Answer

Amazing if it works

Avicenna · Answer

And in a hostage situation?

Joker_ · Answer

terrible idea

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