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Overall…. sad. And I hate Donald Trump, I think he’s a threat to American democracy and instills a piss poor attitude in some Americans. But I don’t want to see people being shot. I also feel bad for the attendees, as much as I disagree with them and would probably be disgusted by them if I saw them being interviewed about their positions, it’s hard to not have compassion when they’re standing on camera looking stunned and traumatized. These are fellow Americans —BADLY misguided fellow Americans—but fellow Americans just the same. And just fellow humans, fuck national allegiance.
Also, not for nothing, the right wing is going CRAZY about this, and on some level, I get it, you just saw your guy narrowly escape death. It’s wild shit. We’re all pretty shocked, on both sides of the aisle and those of us standing IN the aisle.
But I’m a little frustrated, and here’s why….
Its another one of those “if the situation were reversed” things…. the left has been classy as fuck about this. I’m not seeing much “damn, almost had him” sentiments, personally or in the media. Biden came out with an address last night that was spot on. We gotta chill out. There’s a line, and a line was crossed.
We don’t have an apples-to-apples exact comparison available, but I can’t help but remember that FoxNews and Trump himself were clowning around about Nancy Pelosi’s husband getting brained with a hammer. The empathy levels were for sure not the same.
And I’m frustrated, because amidst left-wing condemnation of the act, and taking a pause to show some level of empathy and decency to Trump and those killed or injured or emotionally scarred who were in attendance, we have the right wing just running wild, so badly desperate for the shooter to be a card-carrying liberal. There’s not a lot of confirmed info about it, there’s a lot we may never know, but all we really need to know is he was crazy. But the scarce info we do have includes that he’s on the voter rolls as a Republican, which is somewhat interesting, but don’t worry, the right wingers are being completely rational and non-conspiratorial about the whole thi—I’MMMMMMMM just kidding, they’re being lunatics and claiming everything from he registered as a Republican to throw us off the scent to this being put on and allowed by the always hilarious boogeyman “The Deep State.”
And I just can’t. I can’t even, even. I simply cannot, you guys. I’m exhausted, lmao. So goddamn fatigued of conspiracy theories and no one taking life at face value anymore, ignoring the obvious in favor of the implausible…. the ability of Americans to do all that on such a broad scale is a bigger enemy to America than any politician could ever be. I swear we get dumber ever year, and that’s dangerous in a democracy. Underinformed, over-confident selfishly-motivated people voting for our leaders…. what could POSSIBLY go sideways?🤦♂️🤦♂️🤦♂️
Anyway…. I’m half-impressed and half-eye-rolling over Trump having the awareness to ham it up for the crowd and cameras and get his fist-pump photo op. So obviously contrived to people with basic critical thinking skills, but he’s a true showman for the less-than-bright, I’ll give him that😂
I was so goddamn relieved when my buddy sent me the picture of the dead shooter…. I said “thank FUCK he’s white, because if he was anything else, if he had a distant relative from Spain somewhere in his ancestry, they’d be like “THESE ILLEGALS ARE OUT OF CONTROL!!!”😂😂😂 But the kid was white-white, so I was like “PHEW…Level 1 cleared”, lmao.
But if there’s one thing about Trump and MAGA, they are fucking DRAMATIC, lmao, so expect them to juice the hell out of it. We’ll never hear the fucking end of this, this people are so fucking cringeworthy, lmao
I agree with a lot of what you said, but let's not pretend the MAGA folks are the only dramatic ones. Every anti-MAGA ad or statement uses the phrase "extremist MAGA views." Is it really extremist to not want to spend tax dollars on those illegally in the country? Is it extremist to want other NATO countries to contribute the share all NATO countries agreed to contribute? Just because some may not agree in principle with the MAGA principles doesn't really make those principles "extreme." Even you called Trump a threat to American democracy. That is nothing if not DRAMATIC.
@SweetDripp Those are relatively moderate views. There are many, many more that aren't. Federal abortion ban, that the president should be above the law, rounding up millions of people for deportation, not caring that it's impossible to round up those kinds of numbers without grabbing American citizens or that it will include vast numbers of people who have never known any other home.
@grega239 Not sure what you’re seeing, but every mainstream liberal news outlet, and all the prominent Democrat politicians immediately denounced this act and any act of political violence, and Biden’s campaign put attack ads on hold. I’m sure you can find an idiot or two here and there, but on the left, I can’t tell you, everyone is RELIEVED Trump wasn’t killed because MAGA would’ve already started strapping up for war like they’re always threatening they will if push comes to shove.
Open to hearing any prominent Democrat you can link me to who is taking this as anything but a tragic event.
@SweetDripp I hear ya, but as goaded said, you’re running the tame party policies in the front and keeping the crazy shit hidden out back. That’s what’s kind of disingenuous about the MAGA movement to me, is they try to play this innocent role like “WHAT? I just love America, that’s all…”, and they showcase “lower taxes”, “fewer regulations”, “smaller government”, “no foreign wars”, and all these seemingly innocent things coming in non-descript packaging.
When they drop the facade though, you start hearing a lot worse stuff. And the nature of it all is almost entirely persecutorial, however they may cloak it as a logic- or morals-based angle.
The big one that really gets me these days in the attitude towards trans people. I’ve never seen such dishonest vilification in my life. I live in a blue state, I spend a lot of time in one of the bluest towns you could ever imagine, the place where you can ACTUALLY find the proverbial “angry short-purple-haired lesbian” the right loves to hate, and I still only know ONE trans person, and then I know of a second at my local weed dispensary. Both are cool as hell and good people.
Wherever you or I may stand on understanding being trans, the point is it’s none of our business, and they should be free to do whatever makes them feel good about themselves. It’s of no inconvenience to me to use a “preferred pronoun” or anything like that, and all objections to it seem very poorly founded.
@SweetDripp Even if you get into M-to-F trans people competing in women’s sports…. I have questions about that too, athletically, and it may be that we can’t fairly compete them vs biological females, and that’s an ok answer to arrive at, if it’s arrived at respectfully and with equal concern for the outcomes for the trans-women. If we need a trans-women division, fine. If we have to have a hard-but-honest conversation about why trans-women will be often competitively advantaged, that’s fine.
What’s NOT fine is approaching the whole thing like trans people are subhuman freaks who don’t deserve any kind of kindness or consideration. Don’t treat them like it’s some weird perversion that children need to be shielded from. That trans adult was wired to be trans at birth. If you disagree and think it’s learned behavior, tell me how many lessons it would require for you to want to switch your gender?
And the amount of trans women who are even IN SPORTS to begin with is MINISCULE, and far from a widespread problem. We can deal with those case by case, but people make that the #1 objection, and the amount of trans-women trying to compete in men’s sports might be as low as just DOZENS. It’s not like the WNBA and the women’s Olympics teams are being overrun by trans-women, lmao. It’s the proverbial mountain being made of a mole hill.
@SweetDripp The attitude towards migrants is disgusting on a human level. We can talk about logistical problems that will arise, but with a lot of right wing stuff, it’s the ENERGY that’s off. That might be very thinly-veiled as trying to do the right thing, but when you get to talking to them, a lot of these people are motivated by FUCKED UP beliefs. Most of these people, even entering illegally, are seeking asylum, with their families. When someone comes to you for help, you help them, no questions asked. And it really sucks that the majority of these people fit that profile, but the right goes out of their way to grossly mischaracterize them as evil people coming to rob and rape and murder us all, and if there are the 30 million they claim are in here, our robbery/rape/murder rate should be WAY up, and it’s not. Crime is actually DOWN. But they’ll never let you hear that, there’s always some conspiracy theory, “oh, crime is actually way up but the police aren’t reporting it, because Joe Biden”🤦♂️🤦♂️🤦♂️😂😂😂 It’s all so, SO dumb, and it’s thrown at us daily so we have to deal with the stupidity every day. It’s tiring, lmao.
Also, the pushing of Christian values on broad society….. no good. We are a secular nation. We also have Muslims here, but we can’t institute Sharia Law just because some of the Muslims might want it, and ditto for the Christians. Just not how we do things, and you can’t have that in a multicultural society. The ship of being a homogenous religious society in America sailed a long, long time ago, so unless you want to see if Greenland is for sale and you can try to start something up there, then you’re gonna have to live in a secular multicultural America.
@SweetDripp As for the drama…. look, people are dramatic, broadly. No one is above drama. But the whole umbrella concept MAGA seems to have where giving rights to others must mean YOU stand to lose something is dramatic. “The border is wide open and MILLIONS of illegals are pouring in every day, and we don’t know who they are or where they came from, but we’re also sure they came form a prison or a mental hospital in another country that wanted us to pay for them instead!”…. that’s dramatic.
Rushing the Capitol on J6 was DRAMATIC, and as it turns out, extremely foolish, as everyone doing so was doing it for a man who was lying to them. And then coming up with the most ridiculous, implausible, unbelievable excuses for it, simultaneously saying it wasn’t a big deal and it was all good people, but it was also AntiFa and the federal government in disguise doing it just to make MAGA look bad…. you gotta be kidding me, guys😂😂😂
All the dishonest talk about abortion…. nobody, and I mean NOBODY is getting abortions after birth, and anyone getting it late-term is a health issue. You guys are outside of your minds if you believe that. Do you think some lady has already had her baby shower and has the baby room set up, but then she crunches the numbers and says at 8 1/2 months, “mehhhh…. I think I’d have to cancel Netflix to swing paying for this baby…”, and decides to abort it the next day? C’mon, guys…. please…. use your brains, I beg you.
@SweetDripp I don’t think calling Trump a threat to American democracy is at all dramatic. And that’s where I’m a little frustrated like I said in my original post…. the left is really taking the high road here. Due to Biden’s poor debate and then the Supreme Court bending over backwards to get Trump off the hook from even having his cases investigated (they don’t care so much that Trump is convicted as much as they just don’t want evidence going public…. think about it), things were already looking down for the Dems. It’d obviously be tragic, but the ugly reality is that it would’ve been a good thing for them politically if Trump died. But that’s not the angle they’re taking, and I respect that. And it’s not even necessary, because regardless of whatever conspiracies they try to conjure up to somehow blame this on the left, the shooter is looking like he was a conservative, so the Dems owe no apologies, not that the party affiliation of the shooter is any indictment on their party. I mean, I don’t blame Republicans for the attempt just because the kid was a Republican. He was a 20 year old weirdo who gives off instant mass shooter vibes on sight, lmao, but I don’t hang that on the Republican Party.
Anyway, this went long (SO sorry, lmfao), and I hope you don’t take it as personally hostile, you were perfectly polite, we just disagree😊 I’m sort of just yelling at the clouds😂 But I’m just saying that as dramatic as I can buy some lefties being, either civilians, or media (ESPECIALLY media), or political figures, I just think MAGA is a very special brew that I’ve never seen before in the political sphere, and it’s a lot of bombastic talk of questionable truth and just generally angry, aggressive energy, OVERFLOWING with conspiracy theories, and conspiracy theories in and of themselves are just about the height of drama.
I was shocked at first. Assassination threats, plots and attempts happen all the time (and most of them aren’t known to the public). However the fact this one was so close is crazy.
Anyway here are my thoughts overall:
I wouldn’t wish death on anyone, so it was sad to see. But then he pumped his fist up and I said this looks like a setup that he's apart of at this point. Sad that actual people died if thats the case
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I prayed for his safety just as I did when I found out he had Covid19. To me, there are two sides of Trump.
One: Candidate politician Trump who I absolutely hate for failing to do policies / generally does destructive behavior / has no regard & respect for the office also wish he was held accountable instead of being bailed out by SCOTUS.
Two: President & Former President Trump who even if I disagree with him / hate him, I understand that the title matters. That title President and former isn’t just a “big deal”, they won an election by the people for the people, are a living symbol of America, and are diplomats wanting to make a better day so, I will pray for any and all presidents because they matter.
I prayed for Trump when he was hospitalized with Covid19 and wanted him to live. I prayed for Trump when the news first broke out and wanted him to live.
I don’t care about politics in this regard, I care about human life. I could never celebrate a death or an attempt to take it away no matter how I view the person.
@MisterWack I prayed both times, too, but I simply prayed for God's will to be done. You're such a good guy, Wacky!
@Caroline91 Thank you!
Though I also said a few days ago something on the lines of I’d happily send him as many prayers that he needs, though I won’t be sending him as many votes because they’re going to whoever the frontrunner is on the other side of the political kids table.
Yeah, not much to choose from
I'm bored. It's like watching a tv show where you know exactly what the writer was thinking and you already know everything they're trying to set up and how everything is going to turn out. Since I stopped following American politics closely there hasn't been a single thing that was unexpected or that made me rethink things or peaked my interest again. It's like watching the same show over and over just with different actors.
None of this drama will affect any political change it's just a soap opera and a boring one at that like I said. Honestly I have to question the mental capacity of adults in their thirties and above who are so wrapped up in this stuff. The political system is a joke, representation is non-existent. They're a bunch of sports fans who think they're smart and their choices actually matter.
I respect sports fans way more because they just follow sports for fun they take it seriously but deep down they know it's just entertainment and a hobby basically but political fans they will build their whole life and identity around this and then think they're special for doing it. It's sad.
The only interesting thing about this situation is how the security team failed so badly but there haven't been any answers yet on that end so I'm kinda losing interest in that too.
They transitioned a little as more information came out, first I was glad he was ok of course and it looked like the secret service was doing a good job escorting him out of the building. Then I learned more details about the weapon and the secret service and now I am full of questions. Like first of all AR-15's are a sign of accelerationist groups since they recommend them to vulnerable people they are convincing to commit a shooting. They pick it because its a gun good at sparking debates. BX has a good video on this as she has been researching it for a while. I watched that just this week so when I saw it was an AR-15 some red flags went off in my head that there is probably more behind it than a single guy with an insane idea.
Then today the videos come out how long that roof was unprotected for, all the crowds pointing it out and the plenty of time to take action. I'm not saying they should have shot the guy for merely being on the roof for a weapon, for all you know it was indeed part of the security personell and you don't want to be trigger happy. But if an unidentified guy is on the roof with a rifle that people aren't briefed on they should immediately have escorted Trump out, identified who it was, jailed him for trying and then bring Trump back in.
Whole thing could have been very easily avoided, and for me that means things don't add up. Who motivated the attacker to do it? Why was security so negligent, etc. They allowed this to happen, now I want to know why.
It was a very delayed reaction. Very slow. No one knew anything.
Here is how it was in the old days.
"We interrupt this program for the following news announcement"..."Ladies and gentlemen, we have reports that the former president has been shot. I repeat the former president has been shot... etc."
I was scrolling on my phone and I checked the news and the headline said: "Trump rally cancelled due to incident." Nothing else. I just thought, that is odd. I wonder what the "incident" was. Some time later they updated with a picture of Trump with the secret service. It looked red on the side of his face but I wasn't 100% sure it wasn't glare or some red reflection. I considered it could be blood and thought. Did the SS rough him up while grabbing him to protect him? Did someone throw something at him? It wasn't until they started airing the footage and you could hear the pops and see him grab his ear did I clearly recognize someone shot at him and he was hit.
I wondered how anyone got a gun close enough to do that. I was glad he lived. I'm still holding out hope someone who loves the country gets in office who will shut down the invasion at the border and start deporting all of these invaders. Immigration should be maybe 30,000-50,000 a year total, of people we vet and know and have deemed non threats who want to be Americans. Not millions and millions of unchecked invaders who could be terrorists, rapists, gang members, criminals, drug traffickers, human traffickers, who transform the European Enlightenment society into 50 balkanized cultures that war with each other. People that use up tax payer services, can't speak the language, couldn't care less about the American history or culture. You can't just dump endless millions of foreigners into a sovereign country and not ruin it.
It was predicted but still shocking to see. I was amazed how lucky he was to have two shots that close and be ok. Very lucky, that he didn't shift position into second shot.
next thought was the other side is going to try harder to finish him off because it makes him more powerful than before. I figure they'd take his plane down or poison him.
Last thought is how he had the wherewithall after all that to pump the crowd. that's impressive... most people would and have been... whisked away without a word.
and I'm not shocked to see some democrat come out saying "they should aim better next time". That I think is the truth for how many feel... deranged.
I'm glad he's well, hope he wins and has better security and protection of his aircraft, food, etc.
1. The conspiracy nuts were going to have a field day. (*)
2. Not surprising that it was a kid who shot...
3. ... and that he missed.
(*) If a nefarious group really wanted to kill Trump, he'd be dead. A competent assassination is not hard. The Russians do it all the time. We are not less sophisticated. So, whenever you are going to have an assassination attempt by someone with a gun, you know it's a lone wolf who'd lost it.
Kids easily lose it because they are easily influenced so it is not to be unexpected that some young idealistic kid attempted this.
I thought, WHAAAT? …are you serious? The very thing I’ve been hoping for, praying for every day has come to pass? Heck yea!!! …. Then, Ohh, yea, no, …. psych!!! It was like the universe was teasing us, torturing us. We came so close to not having to deal with the menace that is Orange Turd. If only that guy had better aim, that’s what everyone I know said. Better luck next time.
I was pissed and knew the demokkkrats had fucked up big this time.
Any mental midget claiming this was staged, is proving just how brainwashed they truly are.
The media, the demokkkrat party and their voters caused this. Always calling him Hitler and claiming that he is the one that will rule like a dictator, when in reality it's the left and this administration that are behaving and actually ruling like dictators. Biden subverts the constitution on a daily basis, like when the Supreme Court shot down his student loan forgiveness, he still did it anyways. Only dictators do shit like that.
The demokkkrats were behind covid and used it to steal the 2020 election. Most people don't know that pelosi waited twenty eight days to send Trump's articles of impeachment to the Senate. There was ZERO reason to do that. It was done on the same day that covid was announced to the American people. No it's not yet another "coincidence".
Roosevelt and Trump were no longer presidents when they got shot. They were both campaigning for re-election
Anyways, in regard to your question, I actually tuned in after he'd already been shot and they were reporting on it and I didn't know what the hell was going on. And I was so confused because the first shot I saw of him was him emerging from behind the podium with messy hair, and I thought it was Boris Johnson at first. We didn't even know Trump was having a rally, then my mom said, "He's bleeding from the ear." We thought something exploded. And even the reporters didn't know at first that he had been shot.
To me I truly expected it at some point. I am glad that he was not seriously injured. I am sorry that one man lost his life and two others were seriously wounded. President Trump narrowly missed death and that gives me pause.
They tried to bankrupt him and put him in prison and he still is the favorite to be our next president. It looks more and more that the Secret Service was complicit in this. They did not arrange his murder outright but it looks like the director purposely assigned untrained, unfit agents to Trump's detail and purposely withheld air support to weaken the protection of the former president maybe in the hopes that somebody makes an attempt on his life.
To be honest every rally livestream I watched I expected the democrats to do this. The one I wasn't able to watch because I was at work and it happens. I thank God that Trump survived. I do not believe this is the end of the attempts on his life, however. The secret service needs to fire the women and the boss and get their shit together. They failed
I believe this to be spot on. One of the first reports was from an eyewitness with others who stood nearby the assailant said plainly that when he pointed him out to the police (also standing nearby) they looked away in the other direction and acted as if they didn't know what he was talking about. Also agreed, the secret service detail failed to 1) spot the assailant as is their job, and 2) acted poorly. A proper detail never, never would have allowed an assailant to be on a nearby rooftop, and so easily visible. If it looks like a duck, swims like a duck, and quacks like a duck...
"Lead your target and allow for wind-age"... you KNOW
this is a self-chosen 'suicide' mission.
You ALMOST got the classic Sniper's 'temple head shot' with that.223 round
and would have made Trump into a redneck 'martyr'!
'Close' only counts in horseshoes and hand grenades, quoits and Claymores!
That God was really looking out for him and the first verse that came to mind was Ephesians 6:11-12...
11 Put on the full armor of God, so that you can take your stand against the devil’s schemes. 12 For our struggle is not against flesh and blood, but against the rulers, against the authorities, against the powers of this dark world and against the spiritual forces of evil in the heavenly realms.
It’s horrible. I found out more on TV.
https://www.facebook.com/reel/1168833334371608?fs=e&s=TIeQ9V&mibextid=0VwfS7
Surprised it hadn't happened sooner. But glad he's OK. Also I was surprised to see Trump pumping his fist to the crowd afterwards. I don't know if it just hasn't hit him how lucky he was. I wouldn't have the brass balls to do that. And Trump never struck me as a guy who was ok with dying a martyr for the MAGA cause.
I've also heard conspiracy claims already that this was all planned and Trump new about this. I think that's absolute nuts!
What was your reaction?
I was shocked honestly. He’s lucky the bullet didn’t hit his head cause he would’ve died right there but it only grazed his eye.
His ear I meant
My first reaction: Doesn't surprise me this happen to him. Like wait for it... wait for it... Kennedy had mob ties. Obama didn't. Go figure! I really can't talk. I wasn't born in the US. I'm just an owl flying around. I will say odd! He had charges brought against him during a campaign and now has been shot at.
The Secret Service dropped the ball! How is it that that roof was unoccupied, so close to the stage? The current Secret Service director is more interested in promoting DEI in the service instead of really getting the job done!
Fiest, the is the FIRST EX POTUS to survive sn assassination attempt.
I was shocked but glad he wasn't martyred. That would have been worse for them sbnation. I also thought that his poll numbers would increase. I alao thought That I'm glad I don't believe in conspiracy theories because that whole fist bumping fight fight fight seemed staged. It's just remarkable in that moment that his mind turn to the idea that this is a good photo op
Wow. First of all, just like a Marine is always a Marine, a President is always a President so 3rd President to survive an assassination attempt. Secondly, the idea that you are glad he wasn't killed because that would make him a martyr is repugnant and sick. Get help.
@SweetDripp ok. Im glad he wasn't martyred AND I can count so i need help? GTFOH with that malarkey!
“ fist bumping fight fight fight seemed staged.”
He was less then 2 inches from certain death. His response was INSTINCTUAL.
This has gotten very real and serious right now. If he was assassinated our entire world would have erupted in chaos. This could of lead to a civil war. And you are right about him being “martyred” because this would have leave people to believe that all the communist infiltration of the deep state conspiracy theories to be 100% true.
But back to his response. How many people in the world i. e. you, me, everybody commenting on GAG, etc. are brave enough to get up and defy someone/something that was less then 2 inches from killing you seconds after it happened? I don’t know if I would of been that brave in a scenario. Like to believe I would be but I dunno. And I’m a ex pro mma fighter by the way. I’ve know what its like to act tough and brave in front of a huge crowd and on national TV when I felt nervous/scared inside. But acting defiant seconds after almost being murdered? It’s either in you to be that way or it’s not.
It’s just so gross and disgusting how several leftists are reacting to this. I honestly would have never nor will ever wish death on a politician. No matter how much I hate them. This includes AOC and the commie squad. I REALLY hate those people but I would never condone violence against them. And believe it or not if AOC was shot in the ear and got up and pumped her fist defiantly a few seconds later I would have to respect her. While I think she would most likely sh*t her pants, cower and scream in terror (I wouldn’t blame/mock that response from anyone if they were almost murdered) but if she somehow shocked the world and defied her would be assassin I would respect her bravery.
But respecting someone is NOT the same thing as liking them. But leftists don’t know the difference on that because a large percentage of them rationalize like adolescents. Sabretooth’s response to all this is a prime example.
My first thought was this was ages ago, way, way before he was famous for applying to become president.
As I read the news, I was out of words, out of thoughts. Minutes later, the first thought that came to my head, was the same thing as in the beginning of the Ukraine invasion of 2022.
This is some next level shit!
I was struck by the small size of Trumps Secret Service Detail on the day.
The Secret Service Detail that day was under strength due to it being reduced by the 'Biden' Admin to bolster Jill Biden's Secret Service Detail.
Homeland Sec Mayorkas has been denying requests in recent months for an expanded Secret Service Detail for Trump.
I don't have much of an opinion about this except I think it's wrong to kill people just because you disagree with them. I can also understand why some people think it's staged although I don't know what to believe. I I just hope there won't be any more madness than this one.
it was bound to happen. he ran his mouth and stoked radicalism and hatred for years. I have no sympathy -- he don't give a damn about anyone else. there's talk that this was stagged... if that's true, this so much worse -- it means that his cult are becoming more unhinged.
So in other words you were hoping for this to happen and Trump “deserved” this. And you still claiming this is “staged” after all the evidence that as come out at this point (including the murdered spectator) is nuts. But you probably think that guy deserved it too just because he’s a “Trump supporter”.
@Sabretooth you are very mentally sick individual. I personally would never wish death on any leftist politician despite hating then otherwise. I wouldn’t even wish this on AOC and the squad. Wouldn’t say “oh they had it coming”.
But given how Trump Derangement Syndrome works I’m sadly not surprised.
@blueonblack22 didn't y'all mock Paul Pelosi? what about those kids that died at Sandy Hook? so, spare me your moral indignation.
“You all”. No @Sabretooth you just reveled your true beliefs in your response above. You said this assassination attempt was justified. You as an individually. You personally. I am judging YOU.
You deserve EVERY INCH of moral indignation for saying that. I never in my life endorsed or justified political violence on any leftist politicians. Ever. Never denied the Sandy Hook shootings.
This isn’t about “your team vs my team”. No. It’s about YOUR beliefs and what you just said vs. how I would react if the roles were reversed.
You really are a very mentally sick individual.
@blueonblack22 your judgement means less than nothing. your moral indignation is laughable. I find that hard to believe. Trump has mocked the disabled, promote violence at his rallies, stole from people, mocked victims of violence, called democrats pedophiles and on and on and on. Trump JR made a costume a costume mocking Paul Pelosi. so, please.
''Trump is not even remotely close to the real life Nazi Germany Adolf Hitler.'' he caged migrants, wants to deport more, he says that they poison the blood of America and call them vermin and had the former Grand Dragon endorse him.
No “kids in cages” started Obama. But besides the point his first was nothing like the “3rd Reich” or whatever deranged insanity you want to believe in.
But again you literally said above “Trump had this coming”. You a very sick and deranged individual for openly stating that. You truly are.
*Under Obama’s first term. Trump’s first term.
But you anyway I really hope you think hard about what your belief structure and choice of words @Sabretooth. You do NOT get “a pass” to wish violence on politicians just because you don’t lien them. Your feelings don’t give you a pass either.
You are welcome to hate Trump all you want. But you saying “it was bound to happen” along with a bunch of qualifiers on why you think this was justified says A LOT about you. A lot. And it is NOT okay for you to say such a thing just because random conservative morons said the Paul pelosi incident was okay. Trump was less then 2 inches away from certain death
His assassination was of resulted in chaos for this country. Maybe even a civil war. This is very serious now.
But then again I really shouldn’t expect any better from people like you.
@blueonblack22 blah, blah, blah... and yet, I don't hear any moral outrage from what Trump has said or done -- there's a word for people like you. hahaha!! '' His assassination was of resulted in chaos for this country. Maybe even a civil war. This is very serious now.'' you really wanna go there? okay, let's go there: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zRlX-DxXF7I https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P8mE0xvrd5Q https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xTOW4R8h8uA https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zBlZXMsv5pw https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kLwVFr8mpIQ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qeeYbJpUvAA . you can try to rewrite your history and try and gaslight me.. but, you won't succeed.
@Sabretooth best of luck man. But I stick to what I said a about what you said. You are saying that this assassination attempt is “justified”. Again that makes you a very mentally sick and deranged person.
You are no teenager spouting of stupid remarks either. You are grown ass man and you truly believe this. You have just kicked this up to another level.
You lost all credibility when it comes political criticism. Sure you could care less what I think but swing voters and independents are watching remarks from people like yourself. You are going to push them in one direction come November and it isn’t going to be the direction you want.
@blueonblack22 just like they're watching you. you can't even condemn the wrong of Trump and your party has said and done. you're a hypocrite and you are a coward. you can call me a very mentally sick and deranged person. but you won't dare call Trump or your fellows that. you're pathetic.
@blueonblack22 you know, I'm reminded of Scrooge. did Trump donate his wealth to the unfortunate? no. did he donate his wealth to schools? no. did he donate his wealth to schools? no. did he apologize and reimbursed all that he wronged? did he did he apologize and reimbursed all that suffered from his dereliction of duty in regards to covid? no instead, he's fundraising: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kLCuFwavIdA we know that Biden called Helen Comperatore... Trump has not: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OSXDUuLRCJQ she denied a call from Biden out of fealty to Trump -- waiting for Trump to recognize her like a child waiting for Santa Claus on Christmas night. Trump is a heartless bastard who only cares about himself.
My first thought was his reaction to quickly fistpump the crowd and pose for a picture were unnaturally quick thoughts for an unexpected near death experience. And it looks more and more like it was staged since then.
I wasn't surprised as he has a lot of enemies, but was glad he was fine. I don't know how you get such a clean shot at someone with Secret Service protection, but I'm guessing they won't get another one. I support him as a non- American. I hope he wins.
My first thought was: This is NOT the way.
I think we’re all waiting for update on who the shooter was and how the innocent bystander got killed. My guess is the sec Serv accidentally shot the wrong guy. I mean they let an armed Trump supporter in.
It’s been revealed of the shooter already
I'm glad his life was not taken and that he doesn't have any severe injuries either. I love his victory fist pump. It was a middle finger to the assailant and signifying his victory ever more.
I thought gee how likely is it for this napoleon complex character to stage his own his assassination? 🤔 also his ear does not look damaged for being shot in the ear or whatever. 🤔
my first thought was: jeez, imagine you gave your life in an attempt to assassinate a presidential candidate you hate and instead you wind up probably causing the guy to win. well at least he's not gonna be there to live the humiliation.
I was shocked and felr terrible when i saw that he was bleeding but i was actually more worried about his life because i wanted this man to come out alive at any cost!
I thought holy shit they did it.
Then I thought he is going to be even stronger now.
Then I thought, they only shoot the best ones and they are scared.
Anyone still on the fence is probably firmly on his side now. I think he pretty much just once the Presidency at this point.
They shoulda aimed elsewhere and went for the IRS instead.
Tucker Carlson predicted this would happen so I wasn't surprised when it did
That's it's nost likely stagged in an attempt for him to gain sympathy to try to avoid suffering another defeat in the election. Also he's not the 3rd president to survive an assanation attempt because he's not president.
All politicians (regardless of party) have a target on their back. Why do you think they have protection?
I don't like the guy but I am not gonna wish death on him.
My reaction was one of surprise to see it in the random news alerts Android phones keep getting from Google type things, sigh.
No matter how much I say fewer like news alerts, I keep getting random news alerts from local news or global news - why android why sigh 😔😭
I haven't watched it or anything but, I think shooting people is sucky even if they are sucky people.
He’s lucky there wasn’t a second one because he was too exposed at the end and he exposed himself to that
I am always saddened and frustrated by political violence. After watching, I also thought, "What a failure by the Secret Service."
"Attempted murderer Joe Biden wasn't kidding when he said it was time to put a bullseye on Trump".
NOW THIS, SHOWED YOU WHO THE BAD GUYS REALLY ARE.
Huh? You Demon-Crats. 🫵
Idiotic, Gullible Demon-Crats 🫵
The side of Biden is 100% with the mandates!
100% with the satanic celebrities!
100% with the tr—nnies and changing your sex!
100% with all that demonic shit, and you don’t see it 🫵
@oliverlogan263
Now he has the sympathy vote…. Has his numbers gone up after the shooting?’
I was surprised considering he isn’t an acting president yet so I guess they thought he will win and tried to stop him
I was going to vote for RFK, watching what happened was a domino of many things that I will now be voting for Trump.
Political violence is wrong and unacceptable. If I wasn't already voting Trump, he would have won my vote that day.
Secret service risking their lives to save someone else
That hopefully the conservatives don’t go shooting shit up.
First reaction? - That he will be a president now for sure.
My first thought was this is crazy... but the crazy only gets worse from here. What comes next?
Im more suprised it didn't happen earlier.
And what fucking luck he had
I would only feel bad for that audience/spectator who died even if that assassination was a success.
Ofcourse I'd also think that's not a way to do it. It's only going to risk more conflict and not good for the society
That the guy probably didn't zero his rifle properly.
How did the secret service fail so badly?
That Liberals finally got him
all by design our own c. i. a is resposable
Shock.. horror.
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