What are your thoughts on no-fault divorce?

[BCRanger10]

What do you think about no-fault divorce?

The state of Texas could soon end no-fault divorce. To such, I say...

[Chazmatazz269]

It doesn’t matter at this point. Even if you get rid of no fault divorce, the courts will always find fault with the man and not the woman. There is and always has been a pervasive bias in favor of women in western courts. This is why women get child custody in over 90% of contested cases, and why men always receive much harsher sentences for the exact same crimes as women. It’s also why in the vast majority of domestic violence cases, the man is arrested or otherwise removed from the home even when there’s strong evidence that a woman was the primary aggressor or even the only aggressor.
The system is too broken to expect one tiny adjustment to make a meaningful difference in the name of fairness and justice.

[WhiteSteve]

If you don’t leave me an out if things were to go sideways, I’m just not going to get married. And what about women whose husbands turn abusive after the ring is on the finger and the paperwork is signed? Or it could go the other way too. Nobody should ever be trapped in any kind of relationship; that’s insane. It’s just not that important to be legally locked in. Any relationship should be at-will.

[BCRanger10]

"If you don’t leave me an out if things were to go sideways, I’m just not going to get married." Marriage rates are already declining anyway, so forgive me, but what's your point?

Is abuse a "no-fault" situation?

[WhiteSteve]

I guess physical or sexual abuse isn’t a definitive “no-fault” situation, I went too tangential with the broader idea of “right to divorce.”

I just don’t consider marriage to be particularly important, I guess. I’ve been with my lady 19 years now, no weddings, largely due to her health issues, but the fact remains, a legal marriage doesn’t change anything about the nature of our relationship. We’re partners in life, and no ceremony or paperwork or title is going to change or strengthen our relationship. And if one or both of us decides that it’s not right for us anymore, we’re free to leave, as we should be.

I don’t want to be married to someone who’s just staying because the government or some religious entity says we have to.

We’ve always laughed over the years about all the people (usually her female co-workers, haha) who would be like “GIIIIIRRRRLLLLLLL, you need to tell that man to put a ring on it or get to steppin’!”, after like two years together. If you get married after only two years of dating…I’m not confident in that relationship. Don’t do it for the social validation and ceremony of it all. You don’t need anybody else to ratify your commitment to someone.

And sure enough, in the time I’ve been with my lady, I’ve watched countless friends and acquaintances meet someone, date, get engaged, get married, maybe have a kid or two…and whoops, now it’s 3, 5, 7 years down the line, it just doesn’t feel the same, and one or both of you wants out.

[WhiteSteve]

We’ve seen so many of those, while we remain together, “in sickness” on her end, unfortunately, and I’m not obligated to be here. I’m here because I love her, because she’d do it for me, and because government or church can nor needs to decide whether or not we have husband/wife level commitment to one another. But those people who got into an ill-fated marriage, that’s what needs to be protected: people’s right to “opt out.” You shouldn’t be stuck in something you don’t enjoy; that has major, major repercussions on your life and happiness.

I’m an agnostic, maybe a possible deist, but I don’t think there’s a religion currently practiced by humans that I believe to be true and correct. So I very much reject any idea that marriage is in any way “sacred” or something that’s ordained by some god we’ve perceived. In other words, it just ain’t that serious, nor is trying to force societal order to that level of detail. I don’t think marriage is a necessary thing, it’s nice if you’re into it, but getting government or religion officially involved is ill-advised, in my opinion.

[WhiteSteve]

*because NO government or church can nor needs to decide

[SaoirseS]

Oh sure, let’s just throw government roadblocks in the way of a voluntary parting between two adults. Like that would serve any meaningful purpose.


What’s next, throw requirements in the path of marriage? Oh wait, Catholics already do that so shouldn’t the government throw its own crap in the way.


Honestly couldn’t care less what Texas does, if they want to get stupid it doesn’t affect me.

[BCRanger10]

This is a sincere question: What's the problem with any of that?

[SaoirseS]

And I replied.

[BCRanger10]

I should ask this instead. Who asks to be recognized as "married" and who gives that recognition?

[SaoirseS]

That’s not within the scope of your question.

[BCRanger10]

Actually, it is, or at the very least within the scope of your original post on it.

[SaoirseS]

People can ask to be recognized as married, and be recognized as common law marriage in many if not most states. Funny that it takes divorce proceedings to dissolve a common law marriage. Don’t see what the objection Texas or anyone else has to no-fault divorce. It’s nobody’s business but theirs.

[BCRanger10]

Right, but under normal circumstances, in most cases, who formally gives that recognition?

[SaoirseS]

You don’t know?

[BCRanger10]

Of course I know. Do you?

[SaoirseS]

If you have a point to make or an expanded opinion on your question then make it. I have neither the time nor the inclination for disingenuous questions. I gave you my opinion, there’s nowhere else to go with it. If you want to expand yours beyond telling Texas to just “do it” then do it.

[DishLady]

"No fault" (uncontested) divorces typically happen after nasty custody battles. Still takes a while to get through.

[Agape93]

I like em, gives people a way out when they need it.

Let me put it this way. If i got married and wanted out, and I couldn't leave and find happiness elsewhere? I'd murder my husband and take my chances

[TonyMetal___1986]

Why do you always have to end up dead or killing someone 🤦🏻‍♂️

If one day you got married, you shall love your husband forever, not killing him 😄

[exitseven]

When there is a divorce it is always somebodys fault.

[Kassandra1994]

All I know is the three fold law does exist.

[SixFootSexy]

Funny how people are so in love and willing to commit to a lifetime, until they're not.

[Iron_Man]

I really don’t believe in that somebody’s gonna get left out and burned