Should we end no-fault divorce?

[msc545]

Yes, end it

No, don't end it

Updates

8 mo

No fault divorce benefits only women.

At Fault divorce benefits men and some women.

[BoopBoopBeep]

Some couples DO develop irreconcilable differences. Perhaps I'm not well-versed enough on what a NFD would entail, being as how I've not had one nor known someone who has. In my mind, it'd be like a amicable dissolution of a partnership (business one). Nobody f'ed up we just don't find this mutually beneficial anymore so we split in accordance with the terms of the initial incorporation agreement or the... fml can't remember... when you form a trust, the bylaws of the trust etc are laid out in the _____. We formed a partnership for 18 years then spun off a subsidiary when he went to college and you took your assets and I took mine. Of course that would necessitate and prenuptial agreement with amendments along the way to account for more assets/different structures, but we don't get rid of cars because someone stole one before they knew how to drive properly.

If this isn't how it works I'm quite open to someone educating me and changing my mind. Not particularly wed to this standpoint (haha..).

[Anonymous]

It is mostly men who are harmed by divorce, but I'm affraid doing away with no fault divorce wouldn't help much. The problem is a combination of a biased court system and thousands of divorce lawyers wo literally teach women how to lie to get a better deal in divorce. No fault divorce wouldn't do much if women are still able to lie and have lawyers coach them in how to do it effectively.

[musicbrain5]

And replace it with what? What needs to happen is a system to prevent mothers from scamming their exes out of child support by spending it on themselves instead of the kids.

[msc545]

Replace it with at-fault divorce like we used to have.

[musicbrain5]

Oh I see. So what would be the exact criteria that would validate an at fault divorce?

[msc545]

Infidelity abuse things of that nature I believe. I think you would really have to ask a lawyer about this part. I guess certainly bigamy would too.

[musicbrain5]

Okay. But people change over time, so now if none of those things are factors and these two people have just grown apart as a couple, how is it fair for either of them to be forced to stay in a stale marriage? Or if they just don’t get along anymore, are they going to be forced to stay in a shitty, argumentative marriage?

How would infidelity or abuse be proven without it turning into a “his word against hers” situation? It seems like this would be a waste of time and resources for the courts. Time is also a factor here - it’s harder to prove these kinds of incidents after a long time. Where I live, a couple needs to be separated for a year before one of them can officially file for divorce.

[Daniela1982]

Yes, as no one even tries to keep it together anymore, because it is easier to quit than to put effort into saving it.

[OlderAndWiser]

It would be helpful to most people if you explained the difference between no-fault divorce and a fault-based divorce system.

[msc545]

I'm able to do that but I think it would carry more weight and be more objective if you would do the honors. If you can't or you don't want to, then please tell me and I will be happy to do it.

[inhua]

spouses who weren't committed to their partners whether it's via cheating or just boredom or wanting to reap their resources don't deserve anything

and paternity fraud needs to be made into a crime

[LazerBean]

Yes, since it's a silly concept. If a couple is getting a divorce it's because they suck, so they're both at fault.

[exitseven]

Divorces should be messy and full of rage and animosity. There is usually enough blsme to go around. Hevin no fault divorce defeats the purpose.

[GoodGuyBreakingBad]

No, my late mom and dad got a No-fault divorce.

[BigDog1989]

End marriage in general

[msc545]

That's actually a good idea but women are doing it for us at this point.

[KrakenAttackin]

And end alimony.

[msc545]

Absolutely end alimony

[slatyb]

We've done it both ways. No-fault divorce is better.

[msc545]

It's better for women. It's garbage for men.

[slatyb]

In what way?

[Anonymous]

Do, divorce makes me money so more please

[Anonymous]

No let’s not go backwards.