Should no fault divorce be eliminated in the United States?

[Anonymous]

I think it should only be allowed in Europe. Very similar to prostitution.

[MzAsh]

Getting rid of no fault divorce would be a bad idea. It would perpetuate the notion that divorce always needs a villain and a victim, and people would do what’s necessary to reach to create that very drama.
It would also cause the whole process to take much longer, skyrocketing legal fees at the same time. Not to mention it would subject children to the drama and the narrative around “whose fault” it is. It would subject abuse victims to have to “prove” abuse.


And it’s simply out of touch with the simple reality that sometimes, a couple grows apart and they just aren’t suited for each other anymore, which is actually very common whether the affected couple realizes it or not.

[Asker]

Don’t knock till you try it. Its been 50 years and we might not need divorce like we don’t need abortion. I say the country gets rid of it for a year and if society seems cleaner we keep it that way.

[MzAsh]

If people were smarter about who they marry, when they marry, and how to maintain a healthy marriage then divorce would be less necessary, but it should still be on the table.

[Asker]

I disagree growing up with divorced parents was a trauma for me. I have too empathy and see parenting and children too differently. Maybe if the marriage does not include kids under 18 or 16 yes. We said the same about abortion women would die and that back door ally clinics would be everywhere and look at the United States now it actually made society better. I’m going with my empathy and the experience of overturning Roe v. Wade on the topic of no fault divorce.

[Asker]

Too much empathy***

[MzAsh]

I’m sure it wasn’t easy for you, but it may have been even worse for you if they felt forced to stay together unwillingly.

There are tens of thousands of underground abortions happening right now under various programs.

Getting rid of no fault divorce would only escalate toxic relationships and cause estrangement. You cannot force an incompatible couple to stay together and you cannot stop women from having abortions. It’s better to help with support and solutions, not petty laws that only seek to control and put a wet bandaid on problems.

[Asker]

After Roe v. Wade I say get rid of no fault. You can’t change my mind. I would never sign up for marriage and have children to opt out no matter what I’m one of the hardest people and will just suck it up.

[Asker]

The weakest might suffer mildly but that’s society and evolution.

[MzAsh]

You’re free to your opinion but there are reasons why no fault divorce stands.

[Asker]

I don’t think it will stand forever. I think we are one conservative President away from getting rid of divorce rights and likely we won’t get them back.

[MzAsh]

I hope you’re not talking about Trump. That goon has had many divorces lol as most pretend “conservatives” have 😏

[Asker]

No I think we will get someone even more right wing. I don’t think Trump will win the next election. I think in the next 20 years we won’t have divorce rights anymore.

[MzAsh]

I don't know I mean Mike Pence is pretty right wing and I know he’d be someone to likely back your opinion here, but most people know he’s a nut sooo

[Asker]

Someone when the government gets rid of no fault divorce you’ll think of me and smile.

[Asker]

Someday*

[Asker]

It will happen and you will think of me and actually be happy I warned ya.

[MzAsh]

It’s easy to say that but there’s nothing going on that signals that’s on the horizon. If this country has any sense, they’ll stop voting for extremists, because it’s extremist views like this that’s causing the unrest.

[Asker]

Vivek Ramaswamy talked about it. Mike Johnson speaker of the house talked about it. A political candidate for president. Right wing influencers like Steven Chowder and many others talk about it. It’s coming and it’s just a matter of time.

[Asker]

Overturning Roe v. Wade was probably more fringe than this 12 years ago. Don’t be naive.

[MzAsh]

So because some toxic men who want to control women “talk” about it, that’s supposed to mean something? It doesn’t. They can yap all they want about it. It’s not going to make women more interested in staying with men they don’t want to be with.

[Asker]

Very powerful and influential people talk about it. I don’t know if their goal is about controlling women all I know is that it will eventually happen. It’s not a question of if it’s a question of when?

[MzAsh]

They’ll regret it too.

[Asker]

Maybe or maybe not. The world is constantly changing. After the conflict in the Middle East the West is becoming much more right wing maybe even fascist.

[MzAsh]

I know I’m not lol

[Asker]

Well your government and society is. Learn to like it at least. Take advantage of life and love the possibilities.

[MzAsh]

I’ll just do what I want and watch conservatives hate like I always have been

[Asker]

What do you mean hate?

[MzAsh]

They just whine about how we live our lives. Because it’s not their way. That’s why they’re always trying to take rights away.

[Asker]

I’m fine with getting married without divorce rights.

[MzAsh]

Then you get married without divorce rights. The rest of us will marry according to our own terms and conditions.

[Asker]

You won’t have the choice in the future believe me.

[MzAsh]

If someone wants to leave, they’ll leave. That’s all there is to it.

[Asker]

The government will be an end to that in the future whether you like it or not.

[MzAsh]

They’d have to physically hold everyone down. Not gonna happen. I know your views are heavily influenced by your personal trauma, and I do hope you heal from that. But understand that your parents made a decision they had every right to make and nothing, not you, not the government was going to change the fact that they aren’t good together.

[CozyCoffin]

It should be eliminated everywhere. People might not jump into it so easily, and hence fewer divorces may occur. Dating for 7 years before marriage for instance, would help people grow together first and see if we there was compatibility before taking the plunge. Many, if not most, people don't do this and we wonder why divorce rates are so high.

[Asker]

I personally think certain parts of Europe and maybe Asia like Japan may be mature enough to handle it looking back on history no fault just didn’t work though.

[slatyb]

Absolutely not. The old divorce laws were based on some religions notion that a marriage was more than an agreement between two people. The result was a nightmare for people in abusive marriages.

The trope that a woman can divorce a man and take everything is completely false. Yes, the marital assets are divided in divorce. In most states, that includes income after the marriage but not property held prior to the marriage.

[Asker]

I disagree but respect your opinion.

[slatyb]

You disagree with what?