Are some guys just universally undesirable to all women?

[Anonymous]

Or is it more likely that they just haven't asked enough girls out?

Yes, some guys are undesirable to all women

No, they just haven't asked enough girls out

[thecd1979]

You see guys that are unattractive with good looking women all the time and thats because those guys are confident, secure in themselves and know how to behave like a challenge. Confidence and carrying yourself like a man is what is going to be sexy and attractive, not insecurity, or whining and complaining about how no women like you. My advice, focus on yourself, your goals, your plans for your life and just living your life and just being happy. The key is to stop stressing yourself out and looking for a partner. If it’s meant to be you will run across the right person when the time is right. I know this form experience and had to learn the hard way. Check out my takes for further information.

[Bluemax]

I did a gender reassignment on this same question. I'd be curious to know what you have to say about it. You can find it right here:
www.girlsaskguys.com/.../q1392007-are-some-women-just-universally-undesirable-to-all-men

[CincinnatiRedsfan]

These rules only apply to women in your age group. Girls in their 20's are gold diggers. They date insecure and whiney guys all the time.

[Tdieseler]

If all else fails... use this "haven't asked enough girls out", its a method called "shotgunning"... people who think they are undesirable use it. It requires a bit of confidence though, and if you don't have that then you have answered a bit of your own question.
(In my opinion, no one is undesirable, they Present themselves as undesirable)

[Asker]

How?

[Asker]

Do they present themselves as such?

[Tdieseler]

are you confident?

[Asker]

Yes.

[Tdieseler]

then you can shotgun, so do it. some girls judge you from your cover, and some like to at least read the first page of your book. Ask enough girls out, you'll find one that is interested in moving on.

[bde0001]

I remember seeing a guy do this when i was in a-school in the navy. Everyday in the common area he would always be doing that. I was like whoa, this dude has balls.

[Anonymous]

Let me just say, I work in computers and recall probably the ugliest guy I have ever seen (appearance) and his personality was quite punishing (some ugly looking guys are nice people). He was single for ages but then one day I saw him down the street holding hands with a girl. She wasn't at all attractive looking but he found someone!! And lesson learned for me : seriously, it doesn't matter how ugly you are there is someone out there who will think you're hot.

[Asker]

Maybe she went with him as a last resort.

[GoodDogNigel]

@asker, beggars can't be choosers.

[Tdieseler]

@GoodDogNigel I had that in my opinion too.. its true.

[Opinion Owner]

Yes I'd say she didn't have a lot of other options. I didn't want to be so mean as to say it another way but now I'm just gonna say it -"for every ugly man, there is an equally ugly woman". But hey - they found each other - yay!!

[cheonsongyi]

That's so sweet because they won't be forever alone.

[Opinion Owner]

Yes... but I hate to associate him with the word sweet... lol
if he got his happily ever after then anyone can!!

[Bluemax]

I too know someone in this situation. He has been with women who were themselves not very attractive. He is now married... to a rather unattractive woman. When I asked him in an unguarded moment, he confessed he goes to strip clubs and fantasizes about them while he's doing his wife. I cannot imagine this is a "happily ever after" scenario. Ugly people do not find other ugly people attractive, generally speaking. They simply have no choice. I have a sneaking suspicion you are fooling yourself into thinking they are happy to be with each other.

@asker
@GoodDogNigel
@Tdieseler
@cheonsongyi

Do this thought experiment. If, God forbid, you were disfigured in an accident and all that was left for you to chose from were people you didn't find at all attractive, how happy would you be getting intimate with someone who physically repulses you? Suppose only physically ugly people were all that's left for you. Would you get into a relationship with someone who you're not attracted to?

[Tdieseler]

@Bluemax
I've thought of that on numerous occasions. here's the thing though, we are talking about just physically unattractive and you brought in disfigurement. Two different things. here's the funny thing about "ugly" and "hot"... who decides? is there some general yardstick? No. "Beauty (attractiveness) is only in the eyes of the beholder" A girl or guy may be seemingly unattractive on the outside but the person they are with thinks they are the hottest thing in the world for numerous reasons. When I agreed with @GoodDogNigel that beggars can't be choosers I meant that if you think so low of yourself, then you really have to choice but to scrape at the bottom. Im not the most attractive guy, but due to the way I comport myself, my confidence and non-conforming (different) personality makes me quite desirable (so I've heard). If you feel undesirable, you will be undesired. Nuff' said.

[GoodDogNigel]

@Bluemax, I probably wouldn't. A relationship isn't the end all be all. I'd just focus on other stuff.

[Bluemax]

@Tdieseler
" is there some general yardstick? No."
Well, respectfully yes there is, and there are many studies that support this. The averageness and symmetry of one's face is a general yardstick. Departures from this averageness make one look less attractive. Whereas there is less agreement about what is attractive, studies showed that there is overall great agreement when people are shown a face that is unattractive. Are there exceptions? Yes, but it's the exception that makes the rule. I believe all the confidence in the word (and don't get me wrong, confidence is a good thing) would not have made Joseph Merrick attractive. Can it make the average person more attractive? Yes, I think so, but generally speaking it doesn't make those at the extreme end of the attractiveness bell curve more attractive. Sad, but I fear it's true.

[Tdieseler]

@b
Bluemax thats just extreme lol

[Tdieseler]

@Bluemax

[ChaosKilledTheDinos]

Probably to most women, but I'm sure there's a girl out there that will find that guy attractive. And why? Because he's not attractive and doesn't come off as friendly or nice to be around? Maybe he doesn't take care of himself either. It might also not have a lot going for him career wise or really doesn't push himself in any way. Those are not attractive qualities.

[peachblossomluck]

Some guys just put off a creeper vibe and don't pick up on social cues. They don't know how to behave around women and but oblivious faith in their looks when they ought not to. Other guys are shy and women wish they would overcome it enough to ask them out.

[CincinnatiRedsfan]

There are also guys who are hideously disfigured, for whatever reasons, and there is nothing they can do about it. I do believe SOME guys (maybe 5% at the most) are so physically unattractive, they can't be compatible with anyone. I'm talking guys with rare diseases or genetic disorders.

I think the same can be said for women.

[peachblossomluck]

My husband had a rare genetic lung disorder and he got grotequely emaciated before his lung transplant. This rude cow in the building used to talk about us all the time and say he was a heroin addict. He was still handsome to me though but I already loved him. Her son tried to talk trash to my son on the first day of school but my son put him in check. Those people don't bother us anymore. My husband has died but yes, that's how unfair people can be when they see something abnormal in someone.

[peachblossomluck]

*Grotesquely

[peachblossomluck]

Since then, they got arrested for freaking out and pulling a gun on some little kid in the bushes. Karma. Who pulls a gun on a little kid?

[Account]

Yes, some guys are universally undesirable.

[Asker]

Why?

[peachblossomluck]

I think I know what she means because this guy at a restaurant was looking like something prehistoric and he wouldn't stop staring at me. So I got my food and moved to another table where he couldn't watch me from there so he got up and moved to a location where he could resume staring at me. He had a sloping forehead and looked really hairy like a caveman.

[mistninja314]

i1127.photobucket.com/.../ezgif.com-add-text_2.gif I chose A but it's damn near possible to be undesirable to everyone ^_^

[CincinnatiRedsfan]

I voted "A."

I do think SOME-a very small percentage of men (I'll estimate 5% here) are undesirable for women. There are some guys hideously disfigured or have severe personality disorders which are not compatible with women.

Asking out girls is a step-But it's just that, a step. This 5% or so will not have one girl to date in their entire lives, regardless of how many girls they ask out.

The same can be said about a tiny portion of women as well.

[Watermelonoma]

nah i dont think any guy can be universally undesirable.. but some sure do come close. I mean in my current dry spell, i've found myself feeling that way about myself on occasion, hah. But its hard for me to see a guy that absolutely no woman would not desire.

[SomeoneImportant]

Guys have to make themselves desirable. Unless you were born looking like a young Brad Pitt, you're going to have to put on some work. But even those guys need some type of allure.

[CincinnatiRedsfan]

Not true. Wealthy men have to put little to no effort to get girls.

[abundantlyrich]

No, It's your inability to adapt to changes and also look within yourself.

[Asker]

Explain.

[abundantlyrich]

Nevermind I'm going to get sushi.

[Bluemax]

I vote D: Many haven't done all they can to make themselves attractive to women.

[Bluemax]

Oops. There's no "C," so I guess I'd change that to "I vote 'C'"

[Bluemax]

Thank you for inspiring another question of mine. You'll find it here:
www.girlsaskguys.com/.../q1392007-are-some-women-just-universally-undesirable-to-all-men

[Miralrio]

i guess, some of us are totally undesirable to all women no matter our efforts to be nice, polite or gentle, sad but true...

[BelleGirl21]

Yes. There could be many reasons. But those men are few and far between.

[CincinnatiRedsfan]

I completely agree. It may only be 5% of the male population but I'm sure SOME guys... just SOME are that undesirable.

[steveguitar]

no, they had ancestors that got them here, so I don't think so

[Anonymous]

You just aren't talking to enough women. Hell, even HITLER had a girl right up to the end. If Hitler can do it, so can you.

[Asker]

People like Hitler are attractive to women.

[CincinnatiRedsfan]

Hitler was also filthy rich... he could have had any woman he wanted, regardless of how evil or sick he was.

[MeganLoves]

Yea there is some guys that are undesirable

[Kidanis]

yes sir me :)

[Asker]

Is that like 90% of guys on GAG?

[Tdieseler]

whoa... hold on @Asker... not 90%.. some of us can hold our own among females...

[Roadcruiser1]

You mean like me?