Does a perfect body really matter to you?

[Anonymous]

Does having a body that is ideal to you matter to when it comes to guys/girls you date despite their face? Or does it not matter as long as they have an attractive face?

I honestly care more about a guys face than his body. As long as I am extremely attractive to his face, I could care less what his body looks like. To me the portrait of the face is what draws me in.

[DustyHeals]

all bodies are appealing once I get to know and like the person inside. sure, some bodies are more attractive to me initially than others, but the range of what I find appealing is far wider than the prevailing definition of a perfect body. what I am unattracted to is somebody who is overly concerned with what their body looks like whether that manifests itself in the form of preoccupied narcissism or an overly protective low self esteem. I like people who are warm, welcoming, and cuddly which encompasses a nicely varied range from thin to large. also, the more I get to know and like a person, the more I'm attracted to what might be normally considered their physical imperfections. these become often, their cutest assets. this applies to men and women both. although I am primarily attracted to women, some guys turn my head as well. in either case it's a person's energy and personality that really draws me in.. their face, their facial features and expressions, their voice, the way they carry themselves, the things they say and do, their charisma, and their warmth towards me and others... all these factors are much more eye catching to me than their physical fitness.

[ak666]

For me outward appearance is the ultimate thing I'm attracted towards, but "outward appearance" is not strictly physical shape (though that's included).

It even has to do with some things people call "personality", but a more outward kind of personality, like how they talk, how they smile, how they laugh, their posture (friendly? guarded?), the sound of their voice, their demeanor and mannerisms, etc.

These are the types of things that create the image I form in my mind that symbolizes the girl, and it's that image I tend to fall in love with and become really attracted towards.

Deeper aspects of personality which are more hidden without very intimate communication and doing things like facing hardships together is what makes me stay with a girl.

[ak666]

As for the question, I don't believe in a "perfect" body in the first place. I do have some conceptions of what constitutes a "healthy" body that's more suitable for certain physical actions that I find more attractive than those I believe to be "unhealthy" and ill-suited for such actions.

[Asker]

That's good and what I mean by perfect is whatever idea of a perfect body is to you. Like what you prefer and usually find attractive.

[ak666]

My preference is kind of wide, encompassing almost all ethnicities, though the shape isn't usually too different. What I tend to prefer is what I want to call a "healthy average" -- that is, the female figure who had a fairly healthy upbringing with moderate constant physical activity and a decent diet. It's not necessarily a gym rat or a female with bizarre and exaggerated proportions.

And when a girl fits that kind of shape, it does heighten her appeal to me quite a bit. Then again so does the way she smiles, carries herself, posture -- all contribute a lot. I'd say it's far from essential.

[ak666]

A funny thing also happened to me around my mid-20s. I dated a girl who was very far outside of what I personally considered the ideal female figure at the time. I fell in love with her body so much that it transformed what I found attractive to encompass her type of figure.

[Asker]

That's good and true. What do you mean it transformed? You mean changed your idea of you used to think was perfect to you?

[ak666]

Yes, actually she changed so many things from broadening my taste in music to finding more women (even celebrities) who looked more like her more attractive. In her case, she was a slim girl with very small breasts, long arms and legs and neck (somewhat lanky), a somewhat plain-looking face, and not exactly the roundest butt. I fell so deeply for her in spite of initially not finding her body to be that attractive that it totally broadened my horizons in ways where I suddenly started finding that type of body attractive.

[Asker]

That's interesting. Shows that the person themself despite their physical appearance is what you're really attracted to.

[Goandtellyourmama]

No, the only requirement i have is that he feels comfortable in his skin. And why? Because society and media has made us hating our bodies even if we're perfectly fine. Hating that bit of fat that has no impact on our health. Hating that skin because of the cellulitis but still being able to do lunges and squats. But you know that doesn't count, you still have cellulitis.

I've once read: If your biggest fear is to gain 5-10kg then you have a fucking good life.

I wish that people would start embracing their bodies and working hard to improve, not to lose that fat or make those abs shine through, but to be able to lift 5 more kg or do a faster sprint.

[Nitsan]

well said

[AsianMae98]

For me, I wouldn't say a perfect body, but a satisfactory body to me. As long as I see that the guy cares about his body (He's active in sports, eats healthy most of the time, has abs😊😅) It's good enough plus an attractive face of course. I wouldn't want to date a guy who just literally don't care about his body. I want someone who can motivate me to have a healthy lifestyle and who I could workout with☺️I've been obese since childhood and lost like 20 + pounds about 3 years ago but unfortunately gained it back. I want someone who I can work with to keep being fit and all. I wouldn't like it if we're both not in good shape for example.

[Anonymous]

I also think personality > face > body.

Personality is what first gets me attracted to a guy. If we click and have fun together then honestly it doesn't matter what he looks like. The only reason I even care about how he looks is more to do with what everyone else will think. Face is way more important than body too. I don't really like the whole abs and 6 pack look. I prefer a bit of a chunkier/average guy. More like the "before" image kind of look lol.

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[Asker]

Interesting. I think in that order too. Face over body.

[Apope16]

No. I care more about face and personality. I am attracted to girls over weight as long as they have nice boobs. I am attracted to skinny chics as long as they have a nice round butt. I value curves. my ex is actually obese but with nice curves. Sex was better with her than a bony skinny chic.

[ElissaDido]

I want a decent body. That's it. Functional genitalia.
Not fat, not skinny, tall enough.
If he has some good amount of muscles it's a bonus, not complaining haha!

[HawkPerception]

Perfect? No. What matters more to me is that a girl puts effort into her body and appearance. As long as she's not cool with being fat and puts effort into preventing that, I'm good with it.

[Ipod732]

The sad truth is, yes of course the shape of one's body matters. Physical attraction comes before you fully become attracted to their personality.

There are two reasons.

1. You would not pursue if you were not attracted in the first place. The truth of the matter is that we see people before we hear people. This is why first impressions matter so much, first impressions being how we look.

2. The second reason is nature. Humans are still animals, granted we are civilized and intelligent, but our instincts guide an important piece, mating. If left to the mind, our species would not make the best choices, perhaps picking an unhealthy mate. Instincts are important when mating as they are what tells us if they will continue our species or not. The whole point of mating is to keep your genes in the gene pool and to have a worthy heir to do so. Physical attraction immediately tells us how healthy a human is, and if they can be a potential mate or not.

The sad truth is, physical attraction matters. And for me personally, I admit it so too. For me, however, I also look for another quality and that is personality. I'm willing to sacrifice a bit of health for a mate with a mind as that is what I value most. We are not perfect and so a few sacrifices in certain areas have to be made.

[Asker]

Humans aren't like that. We aren't like animals in that way. We have love and don't "mate" to just continue our species. We're not endangered. We have children with someone we love because we love them as want to have children them. I dunno where you get that strange idea from but the human mind is not like that of an animal. We're deeper than that. Animals mate because they have predators and need to keep mating to keep their kind alive. But there are other animals who only have one mate and stay with that mate. They don't look for attraction in the way humans do because most of one kind looks the same. A person appearance doesn't determine whether they are healthy or not. You can be fit but be very unhealthy. It matters on your diet and you're not going to know someone's diet just by looking them.
You can't be attracted to someone who looks but had a terrible personality. You CAN however become attracted to someone who isn't as attractive but has a great personality.

[Asker]

That's how humans work. Being a human being is having a spiritual connection to others. We can only work out with someone we are mentally spiritually compatible with. How you behave and treat others is what makes you attractive. People who say otherwise are only about physical things and are vain. Sexual desires isn't love. Love is beyond and above that and is something deeper than that.

[Ipod732]

I think you misunderstood me. And I was going to give my elaborate explanation when I learned that I can only have a 1000 characters and my response practically turned to an essay.

[Ipod732]

So I'll make it short and sweet. We all have preferences and personality is indeed the deal breaker. Physical attraction is a first impression that leads us to wanting to know more about that personality. I was only giving the reasons as to why that is the case. And you are right that you can't tell what someone's diet is, but you can tell yourself whether or not they're healthy, and that is an instinctual thought.

Humanity is the greatest thing, we are indeed better than any beast.

[Ipod732]

As humanity does care for personality, it is able to ponder and think for itself as to what sort of mate it desires, why it desires such, and why it wouldn't desire such. We are capable of creating great works of art and architecture, great pieces of literature, and we are capable of understanding right from wrong.

[Asker]

Yes of course you will get to know someone you find attractive. I don't disagree that you have to have a physical attraction but the personality play a big part attraction.

[Asker]

I disagree that we only look for people for mating reasons. About picking someone who has good genes which you can't really know unless you get their blood and everything tested.
Also even if they have a poor diet it can be reversed so diet shouldn't get in the way of whether or not you'll date someone.

[Ipod732]

Its not necessarily about diet. The part of genes is your own and not necessarily theirs either. Its about adding your own genes into the gene pool is the instinctual reason as to why we have children (not the only reason). And yes you wouldn't know unless they were tested. Physical attraction plays that part of "knowing" their genes. And yes diet can be reversed which gives people like me a chance lol.

[Ipod732]

Jokes aside, there are pieces and parts of physical attraction that can be controlled versus others that cannot.

[Asker]

Yes it has a part and attractive appearance doesn't mean good genes. You're saying just cuz someone looks good to you means they have good genes and others do not. Well you better have what you refer to as "good genes" I've seen good-looking people create not so good-looking children. Its random. Unattractive people can have good-looking kids so you don't know good genes by a persons looks. I don't even think about what my kids will look like with the guy I chose. Why would I only look for a guy that I think would give me kids looks? That's ridiculous.

[Ipod732]

I think you misunderstood. Its not about what the kids will look like lol. Its psychology, its instinctual. This has nothing to do with preferences. What I'm stating is:

Physical attraction is an instinctual phenomena. We don't know what's inside and so our basic instincts as human beings looks and states that they are a viable candidate. That they have "good genes". That does not necessarily follow that they do, but that we instinctually think they do.

[Asker]

Then its just that you will go after anyone who looks attractive to you. I dunno why you brought up offspring when anyone who wants to marry is going to want kids with their husband/wife. You don't think about protesting with someone before you're even in a relationship with them. You're very confusing becauseEyoyre saying one thing and then saying another. You also keep talking about people as if they're animals or workers to a boss or something.

[Ipod732]

Not necessarily there is the rare occasion in which attraction can grow. This is usually in a work or friend environment. The sort of environment where you are constantly with the same person for long periods of time. Physical attraction acts as a first impression, but if you can bypass that, then you can get to know the personality. If you're stuck with someone then you forcibly learn their personality.

I bring up children as that's the instinctual reason humans have kids. I also don't see how I talked about people being workers to a boss? Mind clarifying as to what you mean?

And humans are animals. We just happen to be the best.

[Asker]

You're copying what I said about how you can become attracted to another person... The way you describe a man and a woman sound like that. We are not animals. We're human beings animals are not. If we were animals then most of us would be just mating with everyone and killing each other. Also eating each other. Were not the same when it comes to sexuality or love in this way.

[Asker]

You have a caveman mentality.

[Ipod732]

And I agreed with you. That would circumvent physical attraction. It would go past that barrier.

Humans are indeed animals. As much as we like to deny it so, at our very core we are animals. We posess something special, however, and that is the human mind. That is the ability to think and to understand. We can decipher good from evil, right from wrong.

As for the insult, I thought we were having a civilized discussion and find it unecessary.

[Asker]

How can we be civilized if we are truly animals? Animals are not civilized and cannot be civilized.

[Asker]

I don't know why you would take caveman mentality as an insult when you are saying human beings are animals. Did cavemen not come from monkeys? Why should you be offended by being compared to a caveman when to you its all the same?

[Ipod732]

We are instinctually animals, but we are still civilized. Like I've said we posess a special gift animals do not and that is the ability to think and to understand, to process and decipher the world around us. To minimize that ability is an insult to a human. That's the difference between humans and other species of creatures. We are still animals, literally, but with the gift of the mind we have moved forward. When it comes to physical attraction, however, we have not.

I still believe you are misunderstanding and misconstruing what I've been stating. The original statement is about Physical attraction and how and why its instinctual, nothing more and nothing less.

[Ipod732]

There is nothing I love more than humanity. I love its ability to think above all else. Its ability to understand right from wrong. To think of its own existence. We are the only animals that do that. That ponder as to how to improve themselves.

[Asker]

You sound insane and like I said that is a caveman mentality whether you want to believe it or not. If we are animals then why out of every other animal did we get this '"gift"? And why are we above them because of that yet we are animals?

[Asker]

You wanna say you're an animal with this gift yet you refer to our preproduction as "mating" and talk about how we look for good genes and saying we can determine if one is healthy by how attractive they are. That's caveman thinking.

[Ipod732]

I refer to it as mating as that is what reproduction is. It's mating. That's simply semantics.

As for the health and "good genes". Like I've said, is the instinctual reason, the reason as to why we find someone Physically attractive. I'm explaining as to how it works, why it works. I'm not talking about personal preferences or anything of the sort.

[Ipod732]

It's matter of fact, not that I'm stating you consciously think in this manner. This is subconscious. This is a psychological phenomena. Nothing more, nothing less.

I also do not see the need for calling me insane, when I'm trying to clarify the misunderstanding.

[Asker]

There is no misunderstanding. I know exactly what you said you're just trying to change what I called you out on. Your words not mine and I'm stating facts.

[Asker]

You didn't answer my questions.

[Ipod732]

And what is it did you call me out on? Mind quoting the words? What do you want me to clarify? Apparently there is something I missed, otherwise you wouldn't say you called me out on something.

[Ipod732]

Ah the gift that we humans posess.

There are two possible routes.

1. God
2. Evolution

Either works in this regard as it leads to the same answer. As either can give us this "gift". I call it a "gift" as its something of beauty and something I admire above all else anout humanity. Its humanity's defining feature.

[Ipod732]

And I may have missed the sentence afterwards...

It makes us better than other animals, as we can move past our instincts. We can't move past all of them, as they are required for our species to survive, but we can create language, we can understand right from wrong, etc.

[Asker]

Ok where did God call a human an animal?

If its evolution then its caveman stuff.

Also if you don't even know if its God or evolution than what do you know about humans? Nothing. Because the answers and knowledge are from a higher source ad if you don't know who or what we came from then you don't have any idea what we are.

[Ipod732]

That's a philosophical debate I'd love to get into as to whether or not a God exists and if not, then what happens to the reasons as to human existence. Metaphysics and epistemology are great fields of study within philosophy. Off topic, but wonderful.

[Asker]

Answer my question please :-]

[Ipod732]

First, God would not have to call humans animals. That would be subject to God's will presuming God is an almighty being. If God wishes us to be animals, then we are animals.

[Ipod732]

I'm doing so, having to separate each message is a pain in the arse though lol

[Asker]

There you go. So if its God who made us then we are what he called us.

[Ipod732]

As to knowledge and what knowledge we do know, let us look back to Rene Descartes, a skeptic.

He rid of all his biases and everything he knew and asked the question," do I exist." Through reasoning he came to the conclusion that yes he did. How? Because, if he can be decieved with his existence, if his sight can decieve him, his hearing, etc. then he must exist in order to be decieved.

[Ipod732]

He also came to the conclusion that a deciever must exist as well, this you can call the Devil or God. Depending on how you look at it.

There is only one certainty and that is our own existence. If we wish to be skeptics that is. Hume would argue otherwise.

[Ipod732]

Also knowledge coming from a higher source presumes the existence of a God, and even so God would know everything, but that does not necessarily follow that God created that knowledge. That depends on what type of God are we talkinf about. (Persomally I believe a God exists)

[Ipod732]

We really are on a tangent at the moment, but I like philosophy so I'll allow it lol. I'm a philosophy major so I enjoy discussing amd learning about this sort of thing. Still on the beginning of journey, but the passion for it burns with fire lol.

[Asker]

I don't know what that answers but God is not a deciever. Deception is evil. Like you said we know right from wrong so we know that deception is evil.
Being a human you know where you came from because you have a spirit. Having a spirit gives you a spiritual connection and a spiritual understanding. That's how our minds are much deeper in certain ways. We were made to be what we are which is a human being. We're the only kind like this. Where animals have different kinds of themselves and are related to other animal families. We don't have that. That's what shows that we are indeed not animals.

[Asker]

If we were then It would make no sense to have one type of animal species higher than the rest and making us look the way we do and have more control over the world.

[Ipod732]

We are quite literally animals. I think what you are getting into is the idea of the "soul" or as I call it the "mind" and as others may call it the "conscience".

I think this is where the misunderstanding may have arisen. When I state we are animals, it is because we are literally an animal, a creature, a being. Animal acompasses all living creatures. Bacteria, viruses and the like are single cell organisms and therefore are not animals.

[Ipod732]

I think it is due to the semantics of stating animal you think of monkeys, and I think of any living creature. Plants of course are plants and viruses are not living, so on so forth. Semantics I think is where I may have led you astray.

[Ipod732]

As to God being a deciever that's also semantics. Depends on what you call God and what sort of God we refer to. When I state the word God I'm generally talking about a being beyond my understanding that is omniscient and omnipotent. Not necessarily omnibenevolent.

[Ipod732]

If we're talking about the God in major religions of today, then we'd be referring to an omnipotent, omnibenevolent, and omniscient God, which I do believe in personally.

[Asker]

Well is God good or evil? Is the devil good or evil?

[Ipod732]

Are we talking about an impersonal God, a personal God, etc? Really depends on what sort of God we refer to. If we are talking about God and the Devil like in Christianity, Islam, or Judaism then God would be good and the Devil evil.

Depends on the idea we're exploring here and where you'd like the discussion to head to.

[KinderKind]

Using an objective scale, no woman I've been attracted to has had a "perfect" body. I found her body attractive and I found her attractive hence my attraction but objectively she was not "perfect." Typically the men who pursue quote unquote "perfect women" are dating for status not to try to form a connection. If you let your feelings guide the way rarely are they going to direct you towards somebody who is perfect looking.

Men are more visual by nature. But the idea that men only care about looks is false. If men want a trophy wife looks will be valued above most other things- if they want a relationship, looks are one of many factors.

[Asker]

Well everyone has their own idea of perfect. Perfect itself doesn't exist because we all have out own idea of perfect. Whatever you find attractive is your idea of perfect so they were perfect for you.
About men being visual is bogus. Everyone is different and some men aren't visual and some women are. It varies to the individual. Our nature is human beings and if one is visual and the other isn't then we're not compatible.

[UnknownReflection]

I don't care about body nor face.
If it's love none of this matters. Love doesn't know numbers or shapes and sizes. I care about personality than anything else.
An ugly inside destroys any outsider beauty.
Prefect doesn't exist. Nobody's prefect. Everybody has flaws. And those flaws are part of who we are as a human and they are part of our definition. When someone loves another, they will accept them the way they are.

When i fall in love with someone or start to like them. Automatically everything about them turns beautiful to me. That's how it works for me.

[Asker]

that's beautiful and well whoever you love is going to be perfect to you because that's YOUR idea of perfect. perfect does exist to every individual as far as out own ideas of perfect.

[UnknownReflection]

I agree! Perfection gets created in our view and perspective.

I mention "Nobody's prefect" in order to express it generally as an open view. I believe nobody's prefect and nobody can know everything. We all have our own flaws and we all need each other one way or another. Just like pieces of puzzle.

But your statement is correct. And i am happy you can see it this way. Many people aren't capable to understand perfection, beauty, ugliness and attractiveness is not a certain law but only happens in an individual's eyes.

[Asker]

yes and ok I see. thank you and I am a deep person I can't help it😁

[UnknownReflection]

Yes you are indeed! :)
It's been pleasant to talk to you.
Wish you all the best :)

[Asker]

thank you and you as well, sir :)

[genericname85]

not at all. perfect bodies are just boring. i mean sure i have preferences but those preferences are not one thing. like take for example boob size. i don´t want D cups. for me everything from B-F is perfect. less ore more than that is also fine and not a turn off. same with many other things. it´s a big range of bodies that are attractive to me though there are of course bodies outside of things i like too. don´t think so much about it. it´s much more about connection on a mental level and if your body isn´t really an extreme deviation of the average, you should be fine anyway.

[MrMysteryMan]

There's no such thing as a perfect body. There is such thing as a body you find perfect for you. For me, I have to have that physical attraction well as a mentally attraction. But, I understand that perfection is a falsity in the way we view perfection. Also, I love a bit of imperfection in a woman in looks. It gives her character and then she doesn't look like a plastic doll. Like if your body is just to perfectly proportioned, (video game boobs and butt a little too oddly rounded and waist just a bit too small for the shoulders), I'll question if it is all real or not in my mind, and then it's just distracting and it will make me question how real in other areas such as personality are you.

But strive for your feeling of "perfection" and if you fall short, you'll still be amazing.

[Asker]

Yes i meant the individuals idea of perfect. And I agree. As I wouldn't want a fake guy eitger.

[Felinegirl]

I care about having a body that's as perfect as possible, but I don't care much about the body of my partner (s).
I'm currently dating a girl with a bmi of 32 and although I don't find plus-sized people attractive in general, I couldn't love her more. Her face is beautiful and so is her personality.

I also dated guys with all kinds of physiques. Normal to buff to extremely skinny to "dad bod", hairy or not, pale skin to brown. I found them all attractive, not because of those things, but because of the people they were in total. I can admire elegance as much as strength, intelligence or kindness.

Funny how I'm still extremely vain myself.

[LifeIsStrange13]

I like a guy who takes care of himself, my ex didn't workout and had a bit of a beer belly but I fell for his sense of humour and the connection I felt. Then he wanted to get into fitness himself without me even mentioning it and lost some weight and toned up but that was because he wanted too. I loved him either way.
If someone was morbidly obese I wouldn't find it attractive myself and you can only date someone you're sexually attracted too. Also it could cause them health complications eventually.

So for me, someone who has a balanced lifestyle and looks average 😊

[Heythere2013]

Yes for me in the sense of the person's activity level. I was never turned off by my ex's body, but seeing how much food he could put away and low level of physical activity, I know in the long run, he is going to pile on the weight. When you are young, you don't really gain weight that fast, when your metabolism slows, you put on pounds as you get older. Becoming very overweight in the long run means shorter lifespan, less energy to do anything, prob a very limited sex life etc. I need someone who actually takes care of their body. My routine is not the best, but I walk everywhere and I don't eat a lot. They don't need the perfect body (ripped bodies are kind of a turn off for me), but I know if they are piling on the pounds now, in the future it'll be worse.

[poopedmypantsagain]

No a perfect body on a woman is not something that is needed to make me happy, but a good personalty, and other people skills are what drew me to a certain person to start with.. and if some guy says.. hey you are not perfect.. it just may be time to walk away and cut all ties from a person like that.. you may never be good enough for him or them.. take care now and have a great day and the rest of the week

[ThatRandomGuy76]

I think in the most cases, the body really matters to all guys, but for me it doesn't really, actually it makes the difference, but a beauty and nice face it's what you see in the morning, in the finish, the body matters as an optional (but if u have a good one, is more than just a single "thing" to get, you know..)

[skeptic002]

the embodiment of perfection lol
https://images-cdn.9gag.com/photo/aL2K6YW_700b.jpg

[Asker]

Haha

[TadCurious]

The whole idea of a "perfect" body is so subjective anyway. There are an infinite amount of ways that a girl can be attractive physically, with widely different body shapes/sizes, breast size, height, etc. And the same goes for facial attractiveness too. So when I'm attracted to a girl, it's just an overall kind of thing and there isn't just one kind of "look" that I find attractive. And if I like the girl, I'm naturally gonna like her body.

[Asker]

perfect it whatever your own idea is of perfect. if you would have read my description.

[matheus_mb]

What is perfect? People have different views on perfect, what is perfect for you may not be perfect for me. That's why I don't care much, no need to be perfect.
However I'd like someone who cared about her body enough to keep it good, if I do it with my body I think I'm not asking much (since I'm asking something I do myself).

[Rahdle]

The real question here, is why is she holding her arm with the measure tape so far away from her body? That part doesn't matter, She's supposed to be looking at it by her waiste... Which she obviously isn't doing because she's so arched back that her own bewbies are in the way to see it makes no sense

[Asker]

I don't know lol I didn't upload a picture for this do I don't know how a picture always appears

[I-am-a-nobody]

Decent guys don't demand a perfect body.
The guys who do demand a perfect body aren't worth your time.

However, it is important to a guy that the girl take care of herself.
You can only do so much to increase your bust and hips.
However, a young woman should NOT have a waist over 30 inches/75cm.
If you are overweight, for the sake of your health, you should slowly but surely trim back to a healthy weight.
Hope things work out for you.

[Asker]

That's true and vice versa but also not all guys like a huge bust or really wide hips either.

[I-am-a-nobody]

You bring up a good point.
(You can have too much of a good thing.)
While generally "hourglass" is generally preferred, there is a large range in men's tastes.
I suspect men's tastes vary much more than women believe.

My point was that the waist is the area women have the most control over.
It's also the area where men would most likely agree that smaller is better.
(Though there is probably some disagreement there, too.)

[Asker]

Well I know a good amount of men like curvy women and another amount like skinnier women with not much curves. But for having control over your waist it depends on her body type. Some women don't get fat in their midsection as much as others would so it depends. Yeah I see most men would prefer a smaller waist but not always a tight small waist. Just cuz a lot of men told me they like a waist with a little chub on it xD

[Darkfairie17]

I have no problem dating someone with an 'imperfect body'. Beauty is subjective, we all like different things and our tastes definitely change over time.

I'm also attracted to many different things. So I tend to like different body types. I too though am a lover of faces :)

[Asker]

Yes face is everything.

[ambertaylor]

I think its more important to have an initial attraction to their face and then if they've got a good body thats just a bonus. I tend to date men who have good bodies because I also work out so most of my previous relationships have been formed at the gym or likewise but I'd be open to dating heavier guys and have done in the past.

[Asker]

That's 👍 It's also good to have a guy that would workout with you.

[kaylaS91]

personality>face>body
As long as they aren't overweight or repulsive, them having a personality that is compatible with my own, as well as the obvious good chemistry, is far more important than whether or not they have a six-pack or look like a male model.

[Asker]

I agree! That order exactly. A bad personality is definitely a turn off and doesn't make you attractive even if you are physically attractive. I've never been able to find myself attracted to a guy after I see how ugly his personality is.

[BluesBoy]

I don't look for partner but as far as my concern for myself I want to achieve the "perfect" body which means the best body that I can develop.

I agree with you that beauty is mainly an attractive face feature but you cannot sculpt and outwork ya bad face, you can sculpt and outwork a bad body.

[Asker]

As do I! Yes that is true. I agree 100%

[kimichi]

I care more about his face than his body yes, but I don't care for his body as long as he loves me (I'm not perfect as well and most of the guys I've dated had belly fat). He shouldn't be obese though because that significes for me as an unhealthy, lazy person.

[LoafYouLungTime]

I prefer that they are comfortable in their own skin. It really matters less if they are fine with how they look because then their confidence shines and makes them attractive. On a personal level, I think someone's face plays a big part and as long as they're not on deaths-door skinny or obese then what's the difference. I do like a bit of height and chunk (not necessarily muscle) but that's my personal preference.

[bellaf666]

I'm the opposite. I can look past an ugly face if their body is the type I'm usually attracted to. I really don't focus on facial features all that much -- I mean, if he's got a pretty face then great, but an ugly body would probably be a dealbreaker whereas an ugly face is not.

[dipta]

It doesn't have to be ideal, neither body nor face, but I wouldn't say I don't care at all if they're too thin or too chubby. It does matter to me and I link it to being healthy and what kind of genes would my children receive in case we stay together.

[thesongwentonforever]

I would say that I care much more about my own body; if I don't look good in my clothes/stay in shape, I feel awful.

As for the guy, in terms of appearance, the face would mean more to me, he doesn't have to have a six-pack, I don't expect one. As long as he takes general care of himself, I'm fine.

[That1tallguy]

it doesn't have to be perfect that would be setting your expectations to high. I rather the girl have a pretty face because that's what your going to be looking at more often but she can't be fat I can't fuck with fat chicks. if she also has a nice body that's a defiantly a plus I girl with a cute face and a banging body would be great.

[NyomiMcClinton]

I actually like the petite look much better on females. Its flattering and compliments almost anything a female chooses to wear. I feel like having a big butt and big boobs are a distraction to men. But hey thats just me. I have a nice shape, and do not feel that my shape is distracting. However, just because a female is on the heavier side I feel that she shouldn't feel insecure about her body nor looks.

[Jemini_Crocket]

Body matters to me, face matters too. I don't want to be with anorexic or obese person. I don't wanna be shallow but a person should try to be healthy as much as they can.

I saw one very handsome guy in local shop and despite him being chubby, I'd date him immediatly. I think that face matters a bit more than body.

[likitb4istickit]

I prefer both. Ugly face but body of goddess = I'd get tired of doggy style or the lights always off every time rather quickly (possibly after just 1 fuck). Face of a goddess but body of either a whale or a death camp escapee = can't do shit with that since sexual position or lights off won't help much.

[zlatan22]

what els

[Harshulify]

a perfect body is more of a myth ! if you are things people ask why are you thin, if you are fat, people say you need to lose some that. so that means a perfect body is only having abs is perfect? and that is something required by professionals are those who are fond ! so I conclude not a perfect body but good fitness does matter.

[Shanaya_10969]

I like guys that have a good physique. He doesn't have to have a six pack to have a good physique. He has to be healthy. I don't care much about the face though it does matter to a small extent. Also, personality matters THE MOST. I won't date a guy who's rude, stubborn, forceful or impractical most of the time even if he has supermodel looks. Also, to me, a too muscular body is a no-no. That's just me though.

[zlatan22]

i have

[pooper89]

Yeah it matters to an extent. I won't date a guy who is a bean pole. I'm just not attracted to it at all.
Also, if he's built up top but has chicken legs or just has legs that splay out at exteme angles -pretty unattractive.
I've actually known a guy who had stretch marks on his arms. It's not a deal breaker cuz I still wanted to get with him lol

I always find it super unattractive if the guy has a smaller torso than me or if his arms are shorter than mine ( I'm 5'7)

[RexCatholicissimus]

For the face to be attractive, the guy's probably gonna need to be trimmer anyway, though. So you're killing two birds with one stone.

In my case a body I'm attracted to can make up for a sub-par face and vice versa.

[Snugglecc]

My honest Opinion to a "Does a perfect body really matter to you?" is that if you yourself, don't consider yourself having a "perfect body" why only go for people with one. but that's just me. because 60+% look for someone who they like personality wise and good looking/having thier "perfect body shaped" partner. <(Opinion)

[GirthIsBetter]

The perfect body doesn't matter to me because women's "perfect" is different than men's "perfect" and vice versa.

I like women to have a little junk in the trunk and b/c cup size. But to answer your question, yes it does to an extent. I wouldn't want my girlfriend to be out of shape

[ninja9898]

The face is the most important to me as well but I still dont like an overweight girl or a girl that has no roundness in her butt (a flat butt is a deal breaker for me lol). I take good care of myself and stay in good shape so I dont think asking for a girl that isn't overweight and has a curve in her butt is that big of a deal

[Marlong13]

Fair enough pretty face is nice and a hot. Body is good to its a matter of opinion tbh but I prefer a kind face to a hot body but then again not trying to sound like a dick I like a active girl someone who will go to the gym and hikes with me and generally speaking they have good body's

[Maypai]

Nobody is perfect. Yes, you may have models who look to be perfect, but often times they're not. They have to do extreme training and are taking in very few calories. And plus, a lot of "perfect" people don't have very good personalities.

[Keyspirit]

If that was true, how are u not in ma arms yet? :<

[Maypai]

@Keyspirit Because I don't know you. ;)

[Keyspirit]

Well nows the time we start writing our LUV story 💝

[QueenKiki_25]

I never pay so much attention to one's physique when dating. More on the face but even then Im more into his personality it seems because there's always someone that comes up and say "why him? You deserve someone hotter" and I'd just laugh it off 😂

[Anonymous]

If you only dated people with what you deemed as a "perfect body" your options would be very limited. For me personally, I would say as long as they are in good physical shape that's good enough. I'm not gonna date someone overweight, but she wouldn't have to be "perfect" for me to appreciate her body.

[Asker]

Exactly.

[Mrwoo99]

I would usually invest in women who are naturally skinny since then they will always stay that way in years to come when they hit their mid 30s onward where everybody elses girlfriend is getting fat. It just a shame about the woman's face that cannot be changed once she hits the wall at 40.

[HoHoHoes]

I need to see a cute face (particularly nice teeth and nose), some kinda boobs (not completely flatchested), and some kinda ass (even if its tiny, like i need some kind of curve, not a pancake)

[Anonymous]

Yes, it matters. Both his face and his body have to look at least average for me (not ugly and not fat). I prefer men to be slim and/ or muscular. I can accept a man that's a little chubby though. But I don't like them fat. Anyway, he will have a fat face too and fat faces are not attractive for me.

[ThornCL]

an actually healthy body matters to me. if you can take care of yourself, that's attractive.
You are not healthy at every weight.

[TripleAce]

Not sure what you mean about perfect... Perfect to everyone is different which is why you can't please everyone... Which is also why You can't get that guy you want because he simply prefers a different kinda body

[Asker]

I mean the individuals idea of perfect so whatever your idea of perfect is that's what I'm asking.

[TripleAce]

Perfect doesn't matter BUT a few key things about her body does matter

Also sometimes she can be too awesome that itms doesn't matter too much BUT there is a line that no matter how cool, it just won't work

[Anonymous]

It matters to a point, to me personally face is the most important aspect of someone's appearance, it also depends on whether its something they can change, eg. weight , although I accept that most people find it extremely hard to lose it, I can't help what im attracted to.

[Asker]

are you ripped?

[Opinion Owner]

no not really

[Asker]

well then you shouldn't have such high expectations. if you're not in shape you shouldn't expect to get a girl that's fit.

[Opinion Owner]

I don't have that high expectations , im not ripped but im not fat , I think also at my age (16) its a lot less common for people to be fat but I was just being honest.

[Asker]

good then

[Goodnightcharlie]

Beauty is in the eye of the beholder. I find one body shape a turn off but yet fell for a guy who had that shape :/ . The rest of the bodies all mean the same thing to me. A body that is slowly decaying.

[GFEDATY]

No a perfect body doesn't matter to me, but for me I am involved in both gymnastics and swim team and need to be concerned about my body size. However out side of that I think that people of all shapes can be attractive.

[Slimmcd]

Even though I'm a physique competitor and coach, I am very open minded abou body types. I don't like being judged on mine, so why would I judge someone else's?
It's someone's vibe more than actual features which I find attractive.

[catcurious89]

For me what really matters is that what I feel when im around him.. its really the personality that counts.. who need a gorgeous face or body if the personality or being with that person doenst makes you happy

[WaterRat]

I would like the face and body and mind/energy to be equally enticing. I believe perfection coexists with imperfections. If he has the perfect personality and aura I'd be willing to settle for a less stimulating face and body.

[Asker]

I see.

[Katherine3110hun]

No. I prefer obese tall guys. I'm 5'9 and curvy (not fat) so I love guys that can make me feel small but it's kinda hard to find.

[Muglintar]

Damn! too far, too young!

(6'6", 280lbs)

[Katherine3110hun]

And no open slots. Well until June.

[AleDeEurope]

It matters that I'm attracted to her body, but it doesn't have to be perfect.

[Anonymous]

I care about my own body most and personally i think my body is doing better than my face (hair in particular ) but yes of course i care about her body as well.
Though if she looks like a professional playboy bunny or miami dolphins cheerleader then I'm personally probly going to assume she's not going to be interested.
You need a perfect body if you have high standards for men but you should be ok with an average one if you find the average guy attractive.

[Asker]

And vice versa. Some people tend to think they can have someone with an intact body while they've let themselves go or just have. Like they can be picky about the others body while theirs can be whatever and that's retarded but at the same time some people don't care.

[Opinion Owner]

I think very few pepole genuinely don't care at all.

[Asker]

Well read what everyone else said.

[Opinion Owner]

They seem to be saying they don't care if there perfect looking or there isn't really a perfect not that they don't care at all what state their partners bodies is in.

[Dabro]

Yes its big indicator of persons character. If a girl/guy works out.
Looks after themselves, it's healthy mind, body, soul. Chubby girls coment (a guy should love girls as they are not criticising her looks)
Why I should like/love this kinda girls?

[merydiaz]

True but, it should be 50-50, maybe even 70-30 'cause, you're not going to spend the rest of your life with someone who's gorgeous but annoying as fuck, you need someone who will understand you despite her beauty

[MrMB2]

priorities. it's all personal. i don't really care much about persons body. a normal face with a good and warm attitude would be nice and enough tho

[Anonymous]

What's important is the person has a decent body and keep themselves in shape. Too many people focus on the face and are fine with a subpar body and don't realise once the face is gone then that person is going to be suppar all around.

FAT kills beauty/attractiveness.

[superdouch]

Well personality honestly trumps everything. Then a nice face can make up for a not so nice body. So a perfect body is probably the least important of all three.