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Guys who put all emphasis on physical appearance are only hurting themselves. That being said guys cannot "look however they want." Women and men both shame guys who aren't a specific shape or build. It is just ignored, look through social media at all the pictures of what women "want" not one of those guys has an ounce of fat, they all have washboard abs, and look like they live at a gym. The simple fact is that people are fickle and think for some reason they can dictate what they want in a partner while expecting to not have to do anything on their own. Perhaps maybe, I am just different in that I can appreciate all body types for having beauty in form, but I know that there is so much more to a person than their size. Just wish someone would see that with me.
Don't you want a guy that takes care of him self.
It's true that most men like big boobs, a nice butt etc. And yeah ofcause it looks good but for the most time it's not what we want.
Like a bodybuilder, sure it's impressive but it's just too much 😊
Because looks matter so much more for girls. It's not something for nothing, either. Girls who do meet the highest physical standards have a lot of advantages, because men and women want to be associated with us for a variety of reasons. I got my job because my boss said that I have "the look" that makes people pay attention.
let shallow trash be shallow. they will most likely be alone forever and never amount to anything and when they leave this world no one will miss them let alone remember them. Just saying men don't have a high standard for women. boys do fact is anyone who has such a narrow opinion on what a woman most look like is not a man.
I can't explain why society sets those standards, possibly money (sex sells, then a standard is set, so a wave of people are conditioned to find certain things attractive).
I apologise if anyone has done anything to shame you, there should be no place for that.
I see the imbalance, and I don't get it. Looks do matter, but they're part of a bigure picture, there is a depth to humanity that some people don't seem to be aware of.
Let's hope the future brings a change for the better.
Seems you're going by the minority opinion. Also seems to depend on the country or city you're in. I've seen plenty guys receive abuse from women for not being upto a certain standard within society. In large cities, this where the metrosexual man came from; in smaller countries the metrosexual man is sonetimes abused for taking too much care...
So my opinion in a nutshell is it swings both ways chica 😉
Why is the such a high school FINANCIAL and physical standards for men, but not women?
Women get to overestimate their value and understand estimate men's values and then get tired of not being able to find the right man for them. Men wants a guy who makes a 6 figure, 6' tall, has a decent car and works out, and provides for her, yet, she can be a complete loser a mediocre look like yourself and still thinks she deserves better or thinks she could do better in her imagination.
Feminism is Cancer, especially when combined with thoughtless females and their Hypergamy side that every single woman on this planet has it hardwired... I repeat all women are Solipsistic Hypergamous, some just are aware of it and know that they complain too much, ask for too much and love conditionally because it's their nature
I think girls like you who care what every idiot says are the problem. You actually believe that you look bad, then you feel bad about yourself, just because some stupid lowlife ass said something. Get a fucking grip and stop acting like a baby. I had a girlfriend that was like you.. she was chubby and thught she was fat, she talked all the time about getting thinner and eating less food, I really thought she was beautiful but every time I said that to her she thught I was laying, just because of some group of stupid guys that say stupid things.. not all guys look at a women and see tits and ass so go find one like that and stop being a stupid annoying baby.
Reminds me of this sweet gem
Strawman Strawman Strawman
I feel like all the comments of this post completely missed the point because they were so hoped up on MRA bullshit thanks for being nice
Ummmm there totally is. I know women have to deal with some crap in the physical appearance department, but it is no worse than what men have to deal with. You have to look at both sides. What you described happens to men too, all the time. I know because I used to be one of those guys and I have tons of friends who are.
First, a post online is an act of a coward. Second if their day is ruined that easily, they are NOT worth your time or consideration. I personally want a woman that can talk to me without all the mind games and tests. I really don't care what you look like if you can do that.
First of all every body like pretty things and what you are telling here is media hype ok. and minimum soberness , cleaniness, smartness is expected from both man & women right? Even you will not date a uncleaned guy with Ferrari or a paper thin guy in mustang if there is no attraction from your part for Ferrari/ Austin. These things are media control to change sexual orientation of mass to get attracted to big boobs, big butt. so they can boost gym bussiness and breast massage oil etc. and long hair is natural beauty ok
I think a higher percentage of males go without a partner than females. Like, it’s part of our nature. Females choose men from the top, and the men in the very bottom get nothing. But nearly all females get at least SOMETHING.
It’s not about big boobs or whatever. That’s just what the guys at the top want. And women want the guys at the top, and not the guys on the bottom. And that’s not going to change.
Because men are visual and women are beautiful well can be beautiful creatures.
It's a credit to us that we are loved but it's for the woman to determine what she deems satisfactory because the end goal is obtaining one not many. And believe me if every woman walked around with a brown paper bag over her men would still want her. So try not to take it too personally just try to be the best version of you!
Hey there am so sorry to say this but it's the reality and the facts. People of today's generation are mistaking love with their mixed feelings and emotions as well as their desires and fantasises. Love is from within and it's characters are pure, real and genuine and love will never be the outside appearance and beauty. It's all about the inner hidden beauty and characters that u discover with time as u learn and appreciate each other. So dear ladies be careful of men that tell u that they love cause of your outer beauties, appearances and looks, they don't love you most times but are after using u sexually and dump u in the end after satisfying their sexual desires.
I honestly have to say thats bullshit lol. Most men won't care about most of a females physical features in the idea of dating women. I like a girl with a nice ass but its not a deal breaker. Hell the girl im a bit interested in now is pale, chubby, flat ass, and has thin hair. She still cool.
I wanna add this and i know im gonna get heat from it. Most shallow things men find unattractive about a female are things that they can change. You dont have a butt? Do squats. Small bus? Babycrying ringtone and cut down on the coffee. Don't think you look good? Change your style. Men can't their high...
You yourself set that standard for yourself if you let it, standards are set on opinions and what are opinions exactly, well let me tell you, they mean fuçk all at the end of the day, just be you and middle finger the rest, honestly I'd rather have a flat plank anyday over a plastic wannabe
Guys have standards to live up if not harder than a woman. As I got older I now choose to dress comfortable but decent. What a difference from always well dressed nice house new truck and jeep for a fun vehicle paid very well for the work I do... but... now that I tend to relax more again decent like the average Joe I don't get the flirts or attention. Unless I head out after Work dressed in my suit etc... i see a huge difference from dressed to the nines and just average Joe. No problem with my looks body shape or conversation just my apparent looks when average dressed.
Because society values women's looks and body, whereas men are valued for more attributes unfortunately for women. And because women are sex objects and I think because society sees women as sexier than men, women are held to a higher standard of beauty than us less attractive men ha
We all feel this way. I am a guy that isn't 6ft tall, lost the 6 pack forever ago, has to keep up on my facial hair, can NEVER grow long hair if I want to get a job etc. Ladys have barbie, and Gentlemen have G. I. Joe and a fucked up standard of what it means to be a man (mostly we are fraod to show emotion and vulnerability). Basically, some people are assholes. Have confidence, and most people will be more attracted to that behavior vs plastic patty that can't have conversations outside of her insta fame.
okay i feel like you are right to think this way but not completely right either, some guys are fine with fat women etc, and as an ugly guy i get judged by women all the time for the way i look. but idgaf what people think of me, i'm me and nobody can change that, just like you shouldn't have to change for anyone else, hopefully that makes sense
That's not true. Men have it harder, as they actually need to take care of their alimentation and work out. Women just have to deal with the alimentation part.
Yea I know but I like taller women but they don’t like me back so I’d rather stay single and stick to my preferences cuz if women like taller men I can like taller women as well and I don’t blame myself for having preferences either cuz it’s the society which creates the social and cultural norms among humans.
If women didn’t like shorter men, Matriarchy would’ve existed even though it’s totally rare and that proves my point that your preferences are all dependant upon your social conditioning and upbringing.
Wouldn’t ve*
If we look at the other side of the coin women also have their own list of standard such as, they don't like the man with belly or bald guy or shorter than their height or too slim or too fat and list goes on.
A women without right curves is like a man without job.
Because women have higher expectation for men but in other area. Jobs, money, stability in life, etc...
Some women prefer this to having a model like boyfriend.
Some hot women marry rich ugly men because they like the money and the guy don't care cause he got a hot girl to show off.
In the end both are pretty shallow but not on the same "standard" "area".
A girl mos def don't have to look like that for me to find her desirable.. In fact I like cellulite, and a little bit of fat is fine was look as you ain't round.. But pulease.. Women can be just as shallow, and have standards that are high.. In fact you'll find more men commentin on a big cute girl's picture, than you will ever see it on a big nice lookin guy's photo..
I think most of us have a standard in our minds that is ideal but frankly nothing like what we actually fall for. Do most men and women want that perfect image in their head for a mate, yes but most of are realists and know one that it’s impossible since no one is perfect. Two we all age and some not that well. Three because of one and two, you lower your standards.
I think times are changing how many girls now get boob jobs compared to in the 90s and I think there is a lot more pressure on men now to be tall with muscles I think girls put more pressure on each other than men do and I think airbrushing and porn play a big part in all of our insecurities people need to remember it's not real life x
"Men can look however they want and still shame women for not having what they want"- Not true. Men are also shamed for not having what women want. Men also need to be tall, muscular, handsome and have some other things. And I'm tired of saying all men are not the same.
Because deal with it. It's society.
Men needs to be tall, muscular, full set of hair, big dick, we need to be fit too and while men are dealing with physical standards, we deal with our emotional standards to like no crying not a single tear, be stoic and calm, no complaining. Also we need to be rich and succesful in order for us to be attractive tho. "I'm not gonna date you just because you're good looking." Serious what do you want?
You can't take any of those standards then I feel sorry for you. :/
This has to one of the broad statements I've come across...
Maybe in a person's mind who suffers from the lack of confidence and low self esteem. But there isn't high physical standarerd unless you're media brain washed.
Men are subject to so many high expectations and scrutiny in this day age.
If you're fat or skinny, it's you're own doing. your body, your will, your decision. you have the freedom to look however you want. Same way if you're retarded doesn't mean men have to be blamed also 😂😂😂
Girls put more pressure on themselves and other girls to do look good than men ever have.
I don't think this is true!
At all.
In fact I think both men and women willingly try to fit into the "look attractive" category
You look attractive you have eyes on you it makes u feel Good and confident, gives u an ego boost.
But most women do this while I guess half the men try as hard.
Hence the difference
Apart from this, I think every girl CAN look beautiful. It's easy for us.
Personal hygiene which includes good hair and good skin with a bit of make up works like magic in our case!
Lots of guys i know would be really happy to have a girl who accepted his standards. Those guys who said that have their heads up their asses.
Also my girlfriend puts high standards on herself. She cares too much about stuff that i don't care about in attempts to try and impress me and make me happy. I like it when she doesn't cover her freckles with makeup and laughs and is being silly and wants to do this that and the rest of it and climbs on me and follows me everywhere.
Sorry but it is the oposite in my case. Most women I meat online have a ridiculous standard for guys to look. I have messaged 100 plus women and 80% of youvare too shallow to reply. I am not looking for a super model as I hate fake false women. I just want someone eho is friendly and doesn't care about how I impact her social status. Looks are not everything just a bonus in my eyes. Plus its not the size that counts its how you use them.
Women have a tendency to blame there feelings on outside forces. So because a women feels insecure about the way she looks she will have a tendency to say that society has unfair standards rather than deal with the underlying issue of her insecurity. She will ask why all women are required to shave or wear make-up because of the same insecurity. Your feelings do not mean that society is against you. Sry
Perhaps the same can be said for men.
If you look at the answer from a simple point of view, no woman prefers a man who is weak and not good at protecting her. Imagine, If a woman feels threatened by a group of men and her boyfriend is right there with her and can't help her, how would she feel?
So, in conclusion, it's not like men are very dominating for their type, we are dominant also.
lmfao, that's funny... but all men don't like big asses and for those whose days have been ruined, it's an opportunity for character strengthening since we all face disappointments in life.
Not really true. As we desire women must have all the features that you have mentioned. Same is for you guys. You want a lean guy with good physical strength and not to forget someone good in bed. Coz for men it's like 10-15 mins and baam!!! Done. But for women, have to do a lot to satisfy.
What's really sad anpit this, your blame is misplaced.. Twitter did some research on negative comments to women... nearly 3/4 of all of the negative, disparaging, sexist, comments directed at women came from other women.. additionally you can blame the fashion and makeup industry as well, they are all run by women..
Men are not to blame here, I think you need to look toward your own gender.
Well that's just a bunch of retarded hogwash. Have you seen Magic Mike? Or any of the Sexiest men alive? How many are fat slobs? What about male model? Oh and of course women can drool all over celebrity men and most men don't care. But if a guy says a celebrity female is hot some women immediately get jealous. That's after they just said how hot some dude on the tv was too. So please knock it off with the I'm a woman and a victim routine. You're not.
Could be countered saying why are guys expected to be 6ft or taller or get shamed/ignored/laughed at say if they were... 5'8? They need to be fit, muscular, be good looking, need to have money/good job, pay for everything, nice house, car, personality, cook, clean, nice hair. Be intelligent, tan, Etc.
It goes both ways
I think men who only want a girl with a huge ass are ignored and girls who want guys that are 6ft are often mocked for how stupid and shallow they are but the point of the question wasn’t why are women judged more than men? The question was do you think women without that body type are acceptable
OK, well I'm just pointing out the reverse lol. Should others be accepted? Sure. But I do like girls with that look more just because I'm fit more and I'm not fat and like exercise. I don't imagine a fat person enjoying those things. I don't think people should be obese/fat as that is very unhealthy for them and humans aren't meant to be like that.
There are double standards for both sexes. That's just the way it is. They get the more exited about looks so they require looks. They are also still more dominant in the behind the scenes positions in the media so of course the male director will tell the story through the male lense/perspective. When a woman directs she does the same.
I dont know where you leave, but if you believe that men aren't held to high physical standards, then you got it all wrong.
Also most standards of beauty and shaming that women face is prominently again the hands of other women.
The sooner you realize that you are wrong about this, the happier you'll be in life.
There isn’t a high physical standard for women. Some men have high standards. Some women have high standards. Don’t generalize.
this is complete and utter bullshit, do we prefer big butts, breasts, and flat stomachs? yes. but we also have realistic standards, and dont expect our partners to be perfect. were so accepting of women that many of them complain that we'll fuck anything. while women will be single for months, or even years, and when asked about it they say "i won't settle".
Women started to behave as an exhibitionist. So men started to compare. Love, relationship and sex is not dependent on physical standards. It is very dependent on sharing the perspectives, thinking standards and mental compatibility. But yes prostitution mindset has high physical standards from men and women both. For men it's about women and for women it's for themselves...
Mens standards and pressures dont come from the physical. if working out eating healthy and looking good was what got us girls it would be easy lol but we have to think of our careers and future for the wife and kids and making sure we have enough money to support all of them.
Id argue that men have the same high standards apply to them sometimes even more so. Its just not as commonly spoke about
Also girls dont have to have what you describe, granted what you describe is what a lot of guys like in a women. But you can't tell me that you dont romantise about a guy with muscles, a six pack and stubble with a james bond style and voice
Not condoning male banter that is derogatory to women (hey, I bloody worship females as a hobby), but I think you have to look at where that pressure to look good comes from? I would hazard a guess that the average guy would not make the top five. A huge reason fir this is the media and how they portray women etc. Gossip columns h
bitching about women s style and dress etc.
everything needs to be a lot more relaxed.
Lol what? This is the first time I hear this. You know what happens when a man is fat and ugly and unattractive? He doesn't get a mate... so yeah, there IS an unofficial social standard for men. After all, it is the girl that chooses her guy in the end, not the other way around l.
This is still not a question anyone can really answer but you shouldn't accept their crap, you be you cause someone would want you for the way you are, dont stress about what guys want from you, the men that want too much are usualyy the men you dont need that you see as "fuck boys" or "players" etc
Good question, I think the way media portrays women today is to blame.
Honestly, any girl who can make up personality for looks is a candidate for dating/marriage. No point in getting a super model for a girlfriend if she doesn't have a sense of humor or can be empathetic
Men and women have very different desires. Men want physical beauty women want security. Men look at butts and breast on women. Women look at jobs, assets, and potential in their partners. Goes all the way back to the cave man days. The man with the best skills for hunting and building got the best looking woman to make babies with. Today the guy with the Audi and a fat full wallet gets the runway model. Nothing new here.
Sorry but you neglect the fact that women have high standards to. For a literal example, height. To many women, if you don't meet their height expectation, which is often above average, you are written off completely and stand no chance. Us guys have it hard too.
I think there is a physical standard for men as well, but you just hear about them differently.
Because guys are more visual and women don't care so much about that (typically). They look at other things more. I also think these "standards" a lot of the time are self inflicted, or by society/media. Not so much by guys.
But we also get judged don't be fooled. Perhaps just not as openly/harshly, but it still very much happens.
I agree with most of your points but it goes both ways. Men and women both have pressure to look good. Just because its more prominent for women does not mean that it does not go for men. Consider both sides.
I know
That’s how the world is. Media, Hollywood etc portrays this unreal standard of how women should look. They edit and photoshop pictures and women do plastic surgery etc to fit this standard making us normal women with flaws feel imperfect. It sucks
You're kidding right... us blokes get judged on everything. Too much hair. Not enough hair. Too fat. Beer belly. Too extrovert, too introverted. Too obsessed with the gym. Don't go to the gym. Unless you are a total Muppet who walk a round saying "innit bruv", or has the bank balance of a hollywood superstar, no woman is happy. They want you to change who you are.
Whereas us men like a woman to be... herself.
Oh please, when a girl is even decent she can get a guy easily, but men struggle to find a date because girls have impossibly high physical standards. We dont all look like Thor nor have the time and resources too.