@desidoll- have any of your friends had good experiences with white boyfriends or husbands?From what I understand from Chinese friends, cheating on or even breaking up with a Chinese woman is viewed as deeming her as not worthy as a girlfriend rather than merely the cheater's personal failing.
Yes but not really my own friends but more like my mum's friends so there are kinda around your age. Not sure if age plays a role too but from what I have seen, the outcome of them dating a young white guy seems to be quite negative. I don't really think it is because of the fetish stigma but more of them choosing the wrong guys.
There are also Asian women who date white guys solely because they're and and have babies with them so they can have mixed babies, for some reason that's a huge thing over there
@Nachowedgie Well I didn't say white fever doesn't exist. It goes both ways and it is wrong to like someone solely because of them being "X" race. I have a best friend who will date an Arab guy just because of him being a Middle Eastern. About the mix babies thing, this is usually coming from Asians like Chinese, Filipina, Indonesians etc... Korean and Japanese seem to prefer their own kind although it is always depends on the individual.
@desidoll , since you are in Asia and in a Country with a significant Chinese minority, can you Hazard a guess as to what percentage of Chinese women would date or marry a White guy?
I am pretty bad at rounding up a percentage but I'd say probably 40%? The rest still prefer their own men and they want them to be rich. My students are like 95% Chinese with some Koreans and Filipinos. Two Chinese boys once came to me saying they won't date Chinese girls because they are materialistic and when the girls heard, they called them out saying if you can't afford us, "ang moh" guys are always there for us. Ang moh means White men. I didn't take them seriously lol since they are all still young to understand life. I enjoy exchanging some opinions with them.
Very interesting, and I appreciate the insights.
" I'd say probably 40%?"Shortly after my Indonesian girlfriend and I consummated our relationship, she introduced me to all her girlfriends. They were all quite jealous of her and wanted to know if I had any other single bule friends I could introduce them to. (they also asked her about the size of my penis, not knowing I could understand Indonesian)I had heard a myth that many Indonesian women have a fantasy of having sex with a bule. I asked these young women what they thought of that. They said it was true. I asked to be more specific, if language were not an issue (it is), what percent would actually do it? They talked about it among themselves and agreed that it was 70%. I think their number may be right of rich Jakarta college girls, and I cannot say I disagree with them. It is certainly too high for other parts of the country.
What the hell is a bule?
@WalterRadio he was asking about Malaysian Chinese. Not sure if 70% is accurate but I think it is a little too high. About the jealousy part I can agree since I experience it myself. One of my friends told me that the other two friends secretly wish my boyfriend (he's White) dump me.
To me it looks like fetish.Because my husband loves to sleep with paki girls.
@Kelly61. Well you're an idiot for thinking that because that isn't what it is2. Get a divorce you stupid women
@Nachowedgie We both picked open relationship , so why I need divorce?
1. Open relationships aren't common so I assumed you were complaining about him cheating.2. That in itself though is incredibly dumb and a really bad idea
@Nachowedgie "bule" = "gweilo"
@WalterRadio And what does that mean in English
@Nachowedgie Gweilo is literally "white ghost".They are terms for ethnic Europeans.
@WalterRadio Here people refer White men as "mat salleh"
I have been sternly told by Malaysian officers when I attempted to speak to them in my Indonesian style bahasa, "That's not how we say it here!"
@WalterRadio Hahaha yea these two nations both want to stand up for their own bahasa.
Thanks for the MHO
The irony is that they are usually not submissive and easy to control (ask a guy whose Japanese or Chinese wife insists on full control of the family's finances). The reason for that stereotype is that it's considered very bad in East Asian cultures to lose your temper (being emotional is tolerated somewhat more in Korea).
I think you hit the nail on the head, though.
Well I'd prefer to only really date Asian women but it's nothing to do with being submissive or easy to control. I just find them generally far more attractive than other races and I love Japanese culture specifically, love the hard work and the fact that they tend to be very family oriented which I look for in a partner. So would I be considered creepy to you?
@logorithim I agree. The east Asian women I've met so far were quite serious especially in professional settings, nothing like what people would imagine they would be if they judged them by their looks.
@Nachowedgie no. I was talking about the kind of guys who think that Asian women look submissive and that is the only reason for them to date them.But if you just find them more attractive there is nothing wrong with that I suppose.
Cool beans, I appreciate it
"some people assume Asian women are submissive and 'obedient' "Only someone who has never lived with an Asian woman could think that.They aren't called Tiger Moms for being kittens.
@WalterRadio: Quite true
Lol very true
So are women who only date taller men and go out of their way to do so creepy? It is pretty much the same thing.
No of course not because the dating world is riddled with doubled standards and injustice
That type of guy will indeed only have bar girls interested in him, but there are also older European women that do sex tourism or get husbands in a somewhat similar manner from Africa or the Middle East.
Oh I’m sure they do, although a lot of the time it’s an old woman tricked out of their money by a 21 year old African boyfriend. They usually receive pity and scorn rather than just insults. FWIW my brother in law is white and actually the negative feelings came from our side of the family who felt my sister married beneath her somewhat (something I also get a little for having a white fiancé). The negative feelings go very much to both ways, it’s just more mainstream to blame the white people lol.
Here in Germany, the most common scheme is to marry an older woman around 50 or so in order to get permanent residency or citizenship (sometimes they will even pay her), then divorce her and marry a woman from their own country (often being paid by her family to do it).
Ty for MH!
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Although you've made some really accurate points here, I'm compelled to point out that Vietnam was actually a pretty prudish society during the Vietnam War and it's only in recent years that out-of-wedlock sex has become common among younger people. It's nothing like Thailand or the Philippines.
You have literally summed it up perfectly, thank you
@WalterRadio: Military guys when overseas usually mess around with the women that are most accessible to them (this often also means speaking idiomatic English that they learned from other servicemembers), and it's not unique to Asia- in Europe, there are also the "barracks girls".
@Logorithim"Vietnam was actually a pretty prudish society during the Vietnam War"Not having any money to buy food for yourself or your family tends to overcome prudishness.The mother of one Vietnamese girl I dated, American born, UCLA graduate in chemistry and a virgin until our first date fits the profile. She was extremely strict on her daughter, not allowing her to even visit friends or have friends over. She had that look of shame when I met her, as though a white guy dating her daughter brought back memories she wanted to forget.
Oh, sure, there was plenty of that (and not unique to Vietnam), just that it wasn't as longstanding as in Thailand and the Philippines. It wasn't just white guys, either- nonwhite US troops and Korean troops that also served in Vietnam also had Vietnamese gfs. The image of a wm-af couple should have caught up with the times, though, since these days These couples typically meet on University campuses or professional workplaces, as you have.
The last Asian women I've been with were a law student, a nurse, a marketeer, an engineering student, a business student (and rich daughter of a C-level executive at a major corporation)... nothing to be wanting.
Would you think the same about any other interracial coupling
@Nachowedgie: I think to some extent there is somewhat of a double standard regarding wm/af couples, i. e., that it is OK to be openly negative about them.
@Nachowedgie well its Asians and to an extent Eastern Europeans that have that reputation so I can't say the same about other races. But be free to date whoever you like.
Some do have a fetish, but, trust me, far from all.
Well, i dont truly believe its always a fetish but i does seem like a lot of times it is.
Asian friends tell me that white guys seem to find Asian girls attractive that usually aren't considered attractive by Asian guys. That makes me wonder if white guys like Asian women who are a little bigger than average.
White guys are their main preference so they don't care what other Asian guys think. Also, I wonder why white guys are so drawn to Asians than Latinas. Is it because they think that Latinas have African DNA?
I think in the US there are more White guy/Latinas couples than White guy/Asian woman couples. Latinos and Latinas are less straightforward racially, that's true, and there are differences among Hispanic groups. For example, Mexicans have relatively little African DNA, which is definitely not the case for Latinas with roots in the Caribbean, Colombia, Venezuela and Ecuador. Skin color probably does play a role, though, in White guy/Latina couples. I think what attracts most White guys to Asian women is that they are very unlikely to be overweight, they often have a good education and career, and they are very family-oriented.
@Logorithim" if white guys like Asian women who are a little bigger than average"I married pair of friends of mine I've known for almost 20 years is Filipino F/WM. He specifically can't stand larger women and pointed out how fat the average American woman is compared to the average Filipina.
@WalterRadio: Yeah, that's a big reason for white guys' interest in Asians, but a little bigger than the average Asian is still thin by US standards.
I don't believe that for one minute (I have had plenty of sex with white women after having had Asian gfs). White women have plenty of options.
Well in your generation. Millennials are quite racist.
Has this actually happened to you?
Yeah man. Also my gym boss has an Asian wife, white women hate him.
Is this in California?
No in Belgium.
A Korean girlfriend I had wanted to have a white girl join us in bed. It never happened because she was too picky, but it was always amusing.
I've never heard of that being a problem in Germany. There are some guys with Asian gfs or wives, but they're most likely to be Thai here, and I've never heard a German women express jealousy for them or any other Asian women. German guys who like foreign women prefer ones from the Balkans, Poland or Russia other than Thailand.
Guys these days meet them at work or at universities.