Well for one everyone in 2019 is glued to their phone like this app. They also get all their news from fB and have zero interaction with society. Hell I can’t tell you how many times kids or young adults have walked into me bc they are too busy playing their clashofclans on their phone.
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"Dating in 2019 feels like trying to “prove” to a man that you’re worth a phone call, text reply, date…etc & I don’t have the energy for it"
Really? Seriously? Are women these days so entitled and self important that they can't even muster up the energy to try to impress a man they are interested in? They expect men to do EVERYTHING? I mean really the ONLY things women have to do in the dating game is sit back and let men approach them, ask them out, buy them dinner and try to impress them. And now you don't even feel like you should even try to impress the guy? Nice.
I think that is the answer to your question right there... women like that are why dating in 2019 sucks so bad.
I think it’s because social media and the internet encourages really unrealistic expectations. Also the economy has been crap for at least ten years so that’s also an issue. Everyone is anxious and depressed and on drugs etc.
From a guys point of viewit seems women in the 25-30 age range don't seem to want to date men in the same age range that still live with their parents, and thus are removing around 50% of potential dates.
Things can be going really well meeting and talking to new women, then they learn that I still live with my parents (because rent near Toronto is horrendous) and suddenly I am no longer a dating option.
That seems kind of silly when they could both just get an apartment together. Most guys won't have all of the amenities you want already set up for you the second you arrive.
No don't! Honestly, this comment was mean! It's not always you! It can very well be the other party! Don't lose your self respect and you'll have a better radar for detecting the ass holes and you'll be well wise to avoid them if possible during your dating adventure! There's a lot of them out there so you're not alone! So be careful! Guard your heart and mind! Don't just go in! Otherwise you will be the one that ends up hurt! ... And if you DO find a special somebody/someone! KEEP them in any way possible! :-) Good luck, you'll need it!
If that's the case, that doesn't really have anything to do with the quote that you posted. Yeah, if you try, and they don't; that's totally different. I'd say just move on, then.
I took the quote as coming from some entitled princess that wants a guy to do all the work, while she gives nothing back, and that's wrong.
You are trying to date above your sexual market value, simple as that. Meanwhile the men you should be dating are being treated the same way and experiencing the same frustrations.
In your case, you should be trying to date men who are much younger than you and who aren't yet mature or financially secure, because the men of your age and status are all busy plundering the supply of young women who were supposed to be those younger men's girlfriends and wives. Men don't want age and maturity, we want youth and vitality.
Lol asker 1 guy stood you up. How traumatizing was that? Have that happen about a 100 times and now you're getting what it's like to be a guy. Guys are expected to chase chase chase. And a lot of women lead guys on just for sport. It really shouldn't come as a surprise to women that eventually those guys say i'm done after a while. And that leaves you with the trash you women like to complain about.
I did not lead him on. He led me on... and got with some chick that looks like Whoopi Goldberg. And it’s not the first that I got stood up... I got stood up by a guy I was in relationship with who smoked weed and forgot that we were supposed to spend time.
I didn't ask who you are interested in dating, I was just informing you of your options. You could also date men who are much older than you but who have not done well in life. Or you can be with a single mom who has daddy issues or deep financial baggage. It's not the worst thing in the world, you know, to be stuck with these people. There are lots to choose from and many of them are very nice people.
Because the amount of "Good" women has declined significantly over the last few years. Their standards are unrealistic. They think they are privileged and expect more. No man wants to date girls who bring nothing but trouble into their life. It's one of many reasons I quit searching for a relationship and just gonna stay single forever. If you want the dating world to not suck, you girls will have to do something about the corrupt modern society.
@SkipStop A lot of guys look at women as if they are not anymore than a sexual object to be used as such. With that said it's not just women that are corrupt. Not all women or guys are corrupt.
@MysteriousDarkness I never said anything about women being sex objects. I'm talking about women who are what I consider "Wife and mother material". The traditional and conservative type of girls. I don't wanna be with some slut or chick who will steal my money and falsely accuse me of rape. I want the old school type. But the amount of those girls has declined significantly. They are very hard to find these days.
You're right and it's exactly the same for guys. I HATE this. JUST to get past the gatekeeper for a return message is like having to prove you're: Funny, happy, like travel, love dogs, hike mountains, don't play games, blah blah blah. Jesus, just talk to me. You might find out that all of your stupid requirements are really just a wall you've built around your heart. And we wonder why guys just send DPs lol.
@StephenCF Romance before: “My love for you burns more than a thousand suns! I wish to marry you!” it's amazing😍it's very romantic😍i would prefer romance before. i guess you and me Stephen have "romance before", i mean we live a real romance😍😄
@celin98 “In a world full of temporary options, you’re my permanent choice”... what an amazing, romantic line, askim 😍❤️ It won’t just be our dates that’ll be romantic though, it’ll be our daily lives together 👫💏
Somewhere along the lines, people got this hysterical idea in their heads that they don't "owe" other people some basic decency.
I know men pull their fair share of shit too, but if you saw the straight up abuse we put up with from the other members of your sex (romantic or otherwise), you would understand why we want you to prove yourselves.
I share the same sentiment, for different reasons I think though. It's not the persuing of relationships themselves that I laugh at, it's the often insecure and emasculated cucks that *THINK* they're in relationships with X women. And you can see all their insecurity-ridden behaviours bubble over when a much more threatening guy walks in the room.
Ofc then it becomes a self-fulfilling prophecy, they worry "their" girl is more attracted to the other guy, so they end up feeding her to him. And then cry about it after...
@FreshOutaIdeas You're comment about 'emasculated cucks'... reminded me of a guy that thinks he's better than everyone, because he's in a 'long term relationship'. They live together.
However, he's in his late 40's but has to hide away his gaming system so his girlfriend does not discover it. He has to make up stories if he wants to buy himself something, and he prides himself in how feminine he is, and how masculine she is.
All of his friends say they have seen his girlfriend at the bar with other men... he drives to collect and take her home (no doubt after she's smashed) and it's the only time she's extra affectionate (clear sign). Then he comes up to me and says something about how one day I might be lucky enough to find what he has... bwhahaha
Woah... The guy sounds like an absolute fucking train-wreck! From what you describe, this guy is the absolute epitome of everything that is wrong with the modern man! It seems like he thinks he's a role model for relationships when he's so painfully blind to the fact that not only has he married a dishonest slut, but that his subhuman levels of passiveness have actually exacerbated the little "demon" inside wifey 100x fold... I digress...
I'm not sure what you mean OP. Dating has always sucked because no matter what era there are always people only looking for a lay.
Dating sucks for me for many reasons and I'm lucky I got whatever I have had so far.
You dont have to prove anything, only thing I'd say both parties need to do is just be willing to compromise and half the annoying shit will be solved that way.
I wouldn't really know. But from what i can tell the women are so very obsessed with social media and glued on their phones they actually reject me, who doesn't have any social media. Social media is like their favorite drug.
People were in love before social media. Now they can't be in a relationship without involving social media. 😒
Singles are not out there in the crowds looking for love. Instead their behind the monitors of their desktops or on the phones using the apps and other websites. This is just making the whole dating scenario a drag
Smart phones, and in my opinion it's going to get worse, textings replaced actual talking we meet online we get to k ow each other online, maybe even date them online
I've never been on a date with someone I haven't known beforehand, so my view might be a little skewed. I think it's the way people set up dates though, you meet someone online and you don't really know what kind of person they really are until you meet them, so you meet more people through the internet, but actual compatibility is a lot harder to tell.
Basically I think is because most just do hookups by dating apps or in person or experienced bad relationships enough they don’t have the energy right now or at all to do a serious relationship.
That pic is so right. Like the dudes this year have been more “committed” but dont wanna put in the effort. Theyre words and no action. Fckin indecisive workaholics ass mamas boys. No offense to all out there. Just the 23 I've dealt with thus far 😂
Digital communication, there is no learning about the other person as hands on going in blind to figure it out, everyone wants to see your twitter, fb, snapchat, instagram and figure out who you are with out leaving the house or office...
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Well for one everyone in 2019 is glued to their phone like this app. They also get all their news from fB and have zero interaction with society. Hell I can’t tell you how many times kids or young adults have walked into me bc they are too busy playing their clashofclans on their phone.
"Dating in 2019 feels like trying to “prove” to a man that you’re worth a phone call, text reply, date…etc & I don’t have the energy for it"
Really? Seriously? Are women these days so entitled and self important that they can't even muster up the energy to try to impress a man they are interested in? They expect men to do EVERYTHING? I mean really the ONLY things women have to do in the dating game is sit back and let men approach them, ask them out, buy them dinner and try to impress them. And now you don't even feel like you should even try to impress the guy? Nice.
I think that is the answer to your question right there... women like that are why dating in 2019 sucks so bad.
I think it’s because social media and the internet encourages really unrealistic expectations. Also the economy has been crap for at least ten years so that’s also an issue. Everyone is anxious and depressed and on drugs etc.
Yeah you bring up some good points.
From a guys point of viewit seems women in the 25-30 age range don't seem to want to date men in the same age range that still live with their parents, and thus are removing around 50% of potential dates.
Things can be going really well meeting and talking to new women, then they learn that I still live with my parents (because rent near Toronto is horrendous) and suddenly I am no longer a dating option.
@Heiniken yeah but it’s probably because those girls also have to live at home and they want to find a guy with an apartment they can move into 😂😂😂
That seems kind of silly when they could both just get an apartment together. Most guys won't have all of the amenities you want already set up for you the second you arrive.
That's got to be the dumbest quote I've ever read.
Are we just supposed to be worth dating because we... what, have a vagina? If you're too damned lazy to do anything, then you're NOT worth dating.
I have put in effort and attempted to go see a guy... and he stood me up. Why should I put in effort if the other person is not putting any in.
No don't! Honestly, this comment was mean! It's not always you! It can very well be the other party! Don't lose your self respect and you'll have a better radar for detecting the ass holes and you'll be well wise to avoid them if possible during your dating adventure! There's a lot of them out there so you're not alone! So be careful! Guard your heart and mind! Don't just go in! Otherwise you will be the one that ends up hurt! ... And if you DO find a special somebody/someone! KEEP them in any way possible! :-) Good luck, you'll need it!
If that's the case, that doesn't really have anything to do with the quote that you posted. Yeah, if you try, and they don't; that's totally different. I'd say just move on, then.
I took the quote as coming from some entitled princess that wants a guy to do all the work, while she gives nothing back, and that's wrong.
You are trying to date above your sexual market value, simple as that. Meanwhile the men you should be dating are being treated the same way and experiencing the same frustrations.
In your case, you should be trying to date men who are much younger than you and who aren't yet mature or financially secure, because the men of your age and status are all busy plundering the supply of young women who were supposed to be those younger men's girlfriends and wives. Men don't want age and maturity, we want youth and vitality.
I am not interested in younger men.
Lol asker 1 guy stood you up. How traumatizing was that? Have that happen about a 100 times and now you're getting what it's like to be a guy. Guys are expected to chase chase chase. And a lot of women lead guys on just for sport. It really shouldn't come as a surprise to women that eventually those guys say i'm done after a while. And that leaves you with the trash you women like to complain about.
I did not lead him on. He led me on... and got with some chick that looks like Whoopi Goldberg. And it’s not the first that I got stood up... I got stood up by a guy I was in relationship with who smoked weed and forgot that we were supposed to spend time.
I didn't ask who you are interested in dating, I was just informing you of your options. You could also date men who are much older than you but who have not done well in life. Or you can be with a single mom who has daddy issues or deep financial baggage. It's not the worst thing in the world, you know, to be stuck with these people. There are lots to choose from and many of them are very nice people.
Be with a single mom? I am not a lesbian. I have dated older men that have done well in their life. And I already know my options.
Because the amount of "Good" women has declined significantly over the last few years. Their standards are unrealistic. They think they are privileged and expect more. No man wants to date girls who bring nothing but trouble into their life. It's one of many reasons I quit searching for a relationship and just gonna stay single forever. If you want the dating world to not suck, you girls will have to do something about the corrupt modern society.
@SkipStop
A lot of guys look at women as if they are not anymore than a sexual object to be used as such. With that said it's not just women that are corrupt. Not all women or guys are corrupt.
@MysteriousDarkness I never said anything about women being sex objects. I'm talking about women who are what I consider "Wife and mother material". The traditional and conservative type of girls. I don't wanna be with some slut or chick who will steal my money and falsely accuse me of rape. I want the old school type. But the amount of those girls has declined significantly. They are very hard to find these days.
You're right and it's exactly the same for guys. I HATE this. JUST to get past the gatekeeper for a return message is like having to prove you're: Funny, happy, like travel, love dogs, hike mountains, don't play games, blah blah blah. Jesus, just talk to me. You might find out that all of your stupid requirements are really just a wall you've built around your heart. And we wonder why guys just send DPs lol.
Because western society has become a hedonistic hook-up culture, not the romantic, chivalrous society it used to be before the 1960s 😒💔
Romance before: “My love for you burns more than a thousand suns! I wish to marry you!”
Romance now: “Hey, slut! You like dick?”
@StephenCF I wouldn't date with a man who says to me: "Hey, slut! You like dick?"😒and i would think he is a perverted fuckboy😅
@StephenCF Romance before: “My love for you burns more than a thousand suns! I wish to marry you!” it's amazing😍it's very romantic😍i would prefer romance before. i guess you and me Stephen have "romance before", i mean we live a real romance😍😄
@StephenCF our date will be amazing and romantic😍💏🤗
@StephenCF In the world full of temporary options. You're my permanent choice..❤👫🏻💍
@celin98 “In a world full of temporary options, you’re my permanent choice”... what an amazing, romantic line, askim 😍❤️ It won’t just be our dates that’ll be romantic though, it’ll be our daily lives together 👫💏
that’s a damn good romantic line
@StephenCF❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤
Somewhere along the lines, people got this hysterical idea in their heads that they don't "owe" other people some basic decency.
I know men pull their fair share of shit too, but if you saw the straight up abuse we put up with from the other members of your sex (romantic or otherwise), you would understand why we want you to prove yourselves.
Many people aren't looking for a long term relationship
The responsibility of equality has finally caught up.
You now have to put in equal effort into a relationship he has to prove to you and you have to prove to your date you are worth his time.
You can't just coast because of your gender now.
When a lot of women have a body count in the triple digits by the age of 19, why would a guy bother dating or investing?
I have to hold back laughter if someone tells me they have a girlfriend, never mind a relationship.
"I have to hold back laughter" LOL.
I share the same sentiment, for different reasons I think though. It's not the persuing of relationships themselves that I laugh at, it's the often insecure and emasculated cucks that *THINK* they're in relationships with X women. And you can see all their insecurity-ridden behaviours bubble over when a much more threatening guy walks in the room.
Ofc then it becomes a self-fulfilling prophecy, they worry "their" girl is more attracted to the other guy, so they end up feeding her to him. And then cry about it after...
@FreshOutaIdeas You're comment about 'emasculated cucks'... reminded me of a guy that thinks he's better than everyone, because he's in a 'long term relationship'. They live together.
However, he's in his late 40's but has to hide away his gaming system so his girlfriend does not discover it. He has to make up stories if he wants to buy himself something, and he prides himself in how feminine he is, and how masculine she is.
All of his friends say they have seen his girlfriend at the bar with other men... he drives to collect and take her home (no doubt after she's smashed) and it's the only time she's extra affectionate (clear sign). Then he comes up to me and says something about how one day I might be lucky enough to find what he has... bwhahaha
Woah...
The guy sounds like an absolute fucking train-wreck! From what you describe, this guy is the absolute epitome of everything that is wrong with the modern man! It seems like he thinks he's a role model for relationships when he's so painfully blind to the fact that not only has he married a dishonest slut, but that his subhuman levels of passiveness have actually exacerbated the little "demon" inside wifey 100x fold... I digress...
I'm not sure what you mean OP. Dating has always sucked because no matter what era there are always people only looking for a lay.
Dating sucks for me for many reasons and I'm lucky I got whatever I have had so far.
You dont have to prove anything, only thing I'd say both parties need to do is just be willing to compromise and half the annoying shit will be solved that way.
I wouldn't really know. But from what i can tell the women are so very obsessed with social media and glued on their phones they actually reject me, who doesn't have any social media. Social media is like their favorite drug.
People were in love before social media. Now they can't be in a relationship without involving social media. 😒
Singles are not out there in the crowds looking for love. Instead their behind the monitors of their desktops or on the phones using the apps and other websites. This is just making the whole dating scenario a drag
Smart phones, and in my opinion it's going to get worse, textings replaced actual talking we meet online we get to k ow each other online, maybe even date them online
I've never been on a date with someone I haven't known beforehand, so my view might be a little skewed. I think it's the way people set up dates though, you meet someone online and you don't really know what kind of person they really are until you meet them, so you meet more people through the internet, but actual compatibility is a lot harder to tell.
Basically I think is because most just do hookups by dating apps or in person or experienced bad relationships enough they don’t have the energy right now or at all to do a serious relationship.
That pic is so right. Like the dudes this year have been more “committed” but dont wanna put in the effort. Theyre words and no action. Fckin indecisive workaholics ass mamas boys. No offense to all out there. Just the 23 I've dealt with thus far 😂
23? Sounds like slowing down may help you.
@Darkistoolight__ it was an exaggeration 🤦♀️
Digital communication, there is no learning about the other person as hands on going in blind to figure it out, everyone wants to see your twitter, fb, snapchat, instagram and figure out who you are with out leaving the house or office...
And most of those sites are an inaccurate representation of who we are anyway.
All very true, but people will build a foundation out of lies, less risk the truth then take the time to find out.
Because social media has ruined dating and plus parents of these new generation didn't raise their kids right.
The issue is dating apps.
If your immediate dating pool is 10 people then its easier to appreciate a person. You're being compared to 9 other people.
Expand this to 100 and you're being compared 99 other people.
The average dating app will show you hundreds of people in your local area. You're competing against hundreds of people.
Plus, digitally you can't form relationships as easily, you can't establish intimacy with body language or touch.