I wish i could give this a dozen upvotes. This comment is automatic MHO if you ask me.
I agree with ChiTown!
I believe in marriage before having any child.
Same, but that is why you have to find a man that feels the same way! That's the trick!
It’s hard... especially when the pickings are slim to none... mostly all the I have come across got kids. And I want a man that has no kids.
Same! Them bitches and s o b s are VERY impatient when it comes to sex! and waiting for the right ones!
1. Your math makes no sense (thats okay though!)2. Yes3. Some of us are trying.4. Marriage is not an attractive option for men these days because we get f*cked in divorce laws, when they become more fair you may find marriage rates rising.
@Heiniken Au Contraire my math does make sense! I used a calculator! :) I just kept dviding by 2 starting from 6 bill... I agreed with everything else.. :P
Why would a man in his mid to late twenties have no kids?
There are some... and I am a female and I have no kids. And I prefer who ever I be with will not have any kids yet. I want my own child, and I would my first to be his first. And most single fathers either don’t want anymore kids... or he has too many baby mamas and drama.. I don’t want to be a part of that.
@Ogopogo "Why would a man in his mid to late twenties have no kids?" I have a friend. He's 37 turning 38 and has no kids. My brother is 40 with no kids and no he's no dork! My friend is sort of on the "loser" side because he's got autism, but seriously commenter! This isn't the 1980s or even 1970s anymore! People go to college! People fear not affording their children! People don't marry their high school sweethearts of the bat don't you know!
And add that women's hypergamous instinct that desires tall, masculine, attractive high status male you end up like 20 or 30% of male population. Rest of them are just losers or aren't seen as men. On the other hand there are a lot of women that are healthy and pretty so competition is really tough out there for women.
@Mamamialetmego Hey I just thought of something... what about the competition for women? ! Wouldn't it be the same thing for you guys? ! Or are you telling me that there are more "healthy and pretty" women then there are "health and pretty" men? ! You have competition to make sure to get the healthy and pretty women over other men! You want to reproduce and or be with said woman right? ! :-}
There are more healthy pretty women than attractive men. That's always has been the case. Men compete too of course but low value men compete way much more. High value men have it easy. If you go sites like Tinder or Ockupid only top 20% gets all the matches. Women are hypergamous. They only go unattractive males when they want to marry and seek commitment. But they don't desire them sexually. Women only desire top males
@Mamamialetmego "They only go unattractive males when they want to marry and seek commitment. But they don't desire them sexually. Women only desire top males" A little generalized don't you think? I've seen ugly women date, marry and mate with ugly men! ... I work at a retail Customer Service job and I see this every single day I work! :) ... And I think you meant "attractive" not "unattractive". Hypergamy can happen with BOTH sexes so please don't generalize! Since feminizism came along (yes it has helped women in certain respects) they can now also be highly educated. But you're right in some aspects that men don't really "care" about your career (especially old fashioned men or traditional men) than about your ability to reproduce/give him desired children! Or at the "very least" awesome sex with a what you were saying, pretty or beautiful face!
Ugly or average looking men only have one chance to be desirable sexually if they have status like money or some kind of fame. Yes women marry and even have kids with average dudes but they don't desire them much. Ask married men about their sex life haven't you heard millions of stuff like that? Women are eager to have sex with you if you have certain things like strong, good looking body, high masculine traits like confidence, courage and dominance. You need to have enough of those. If you don't have it you are just a resource for her. Some guys have mix of both but they are rare. Most married men are just resources for their wives and also give women things like affection, attention but they are not sexually desirable. Evolution made women like that. Just read this www.quora.com/Why-do-beautiful-girls-always-fall-for-bad-boys
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Well gee, no one was expecting this answer.
Influencer huh? We'll fuckin see about that.
@Pixel343 Should I be worried?
I didn't expect that answer either. Usually OlderandWiser gives good answers.. Don't know why so condescending today
@gothgirl997 I dont view his comment as condescending. He's just stating what I would've said. The askers comment IS an over-generalization.
@SarahsSummer most of the comments disagree..
@gothgirl997 @SarahsSummer There is a very important reason why I responded as I did. Complaining about "dating in 2019" is useless because it simply becomes an excuse for what is wrong in our personal life. "It's not anything that I'm doing. It's like that for everyone!" That is a dead end. And it really doesn't matter whether dating is generally bad for the rest of the planet; this lady wants HER dating life to be better. The only way to make that happen is to focus on what she is doing that may be contributing to whatever the problem is. Maybe she is looking on the wrong places, inadvertently staying away from the right places, projecting a bad impression, expecting too much too soon, etc. There are many potentially constructive areas she could examine, but that won't happen if she just throws her hands up in the air and says, "Oh, I give up! Dating sucks for everyone so I might as well just accept that it sucks."
You and sarah are both trying to farm votes so obviously she was gonna say the same thing. You're attacking the question because you don't actually have an answer.
@Pixel343 Wrong. My answer is that dating does not suck in 2019.
Nevermind. Not in the mood
Hey guys, have you seen G@G's new format?
@gothgirl997 Just noticed!
What do you think of it?
It's a bit weird..
@gothgirl997 I haven't really played with it yet.
Dating in 2019 does not suck.
@SarahsSummer but if it did? why?
@Pixel343 I can't say why she's having bad luck at it as she hasn't explain her efforts or lack of. I try to live by the very simple motto, where there a will, there a way and you can accomplish anything you set your mind to. making a general statement or pointing at some abstract to blame for a lack of success will not get anyone anywhere.
@SarahsSummer maybe OP just wants to vent and isn't asking for actual advice..
@gothgirl997 I think a good percentage of the "questions" asked here are just that, venting, but call me old fashioned, when I see a statement ending with a "?" I assume it's a question someone is looking for an answer to. If the "asker" doesn't want to engage further for help, so be it.
I think it does suck as well, but maybe it's in the eye of the beholder. Not so much dating, but the whole process of finding, filtering out. it should be easier to pair bond.
Too many men put up with shit due to a scarcity mindset, and extreme thirst. I've been attacked by other men for holding women accountable, and for not putting up with their shit.I've seen stories where guys say ''my girlfriend was rude, cheated, or flaked... and she's crazy... how do I get her interested again''. They are afraid to simply walk away.I also knew this girl at a job that talked about how she would always shout, scream and physically scratch up her bfs face, arms, neck... they have been together for 8 years now... although she's propositioned me enough times already.
@Truthatanycost "Although she's propositioned me enough times already..." Lol, I know that pain, friend. I done a take about an experience I had, which really solidified the things I knew already. Ended up having quite a cool discussion with a guy and we established just that; that by and large it is men's faults for not holding women accountable for their actions. And that not only impedes upon masculine authority, but dismantles a woman's moral compass. If you like, have a read and a chuckle over this haha - Advice for the True (Non-PC) Men out there: How to Handle Crazy Women! ↗
I read it. Freaking hilarious and very visual. I could see everything, the bar, the sweat, the beta rage and I could smell the pheromones hahah. This is why I always talk about how important mastering self control is. particularly as a man!Some funny comments in that take as well. What a riot.
@Truthatanycost Yes exactly!! Self control is a MUST these days. I just got propositioned by a woman a couple nights ago who kept giving me the feminist mantra... Nothing more attention seeking ofc, and the fact I could see right through this, made her more attracted to me... Did I bite the bullet just because? Lol no... I've got my standards 👍
I am not a feminist. Why assume that every woman is a feminist
You: Why does dating in 2019 suck so bad?Me: FeminismYou: I am not a feminist. Why assume that every woman is a feminist
I agree 100%
And the profiles were supposed to let you get to know a person better...
Haha people don’t even ready my profile so I just say “hi I’m (name), and I like bears.”
That's sad. Tbh, I used to read people's profiles all the time, but even I fell prey to the "easy method" once OKCupid adopted the swipe system. I think that was probably the worst change they ever made.
And that shit is getting worse by day. I think media should stop making romantic comedy movies based on this, and start making crime documentaries, because its a really messed-up issue that could end mankind altogether.
It's what I keep trying to tell others in my generation. I'm always the first to talk about the dysfunctionality of modern life - in this case dating - but as I interpret from your words; if you have no self worth yourself then don't expect the marriage material to come to you.
Take this advice.
@lovedejj_xo Asker needs to set out in her mind at least, even better to be able to articulate, what she brings of high-value to a relationship. And no, just showing up with your golden-vagina doesn't suffice. Cuz a high-value man will expect it. Women today, generally, and for some time, have never bothered to even make an assessment of what they offer, what they'll DO for their man, nothing about him. It is ALWAYS about herself, her standards, her expectations, her requirements, that are at the forefront. It's so short-sighted it stifles her progress and opportunities. I did a 'take on dating profiles that hits on a lot of this. The whole 'don't even bother' meme is just such a giant fail.
Giant fail? Have you tried to charm a girl in my age group, this year? I should've married the girlfriend when I was 19.
@Pixel343 - So much whining... so little time. Another little pony that needs to buck it up. You can either CHOOSE to be a winner, or a loser. It's completely up to you.
I did not write the quote
And that changes what exactly?
@Browneye57 I agree. Women need to do better as well.
@lovedejj_xo - It's called solipsism. You can google it. It's a survival trait for her and her offspring. Unfortunately it manifests itself in complete self-absorption. We call them 'navel-gasers'. For most women, I'm not saying ALL, their ENTIRE focus is on themselves, how things affect them, their feelings, their realm. They are unable to self assess, there is no objectivity. So when it comes to attracting a viable mate, they've never considered the prospect and what they offer - it solely from their own perspective, how and what it brings and does for THEM. Men love idealistically.Women love opportunistically. Women are all in as long as it suits them, their needs and desires, and makes them happy. Just look for the word tracks - "I just wasn't hhhaaaappppyyyy". Or 'I love him, I'm just not IN love with him'. Or 'he just doesn't GET me.' The entire focus is on self. This isn't to say it's good or bad, it just is. 75% of divorces are initiated by women - this is the proof. They much more readily give up and seek to get out. Men will tend to stay and stay, just hoping things will get better. This isn't good or bad either, it just is.
I want something lasting. And I don’t have a facebook anymore... I can careless about a status. And no one knows how to date anymore
Ok, but you're only 50% of the equation. If he doesn't feel the same way you're soomed to fail. Also you can't tell me after failure after failure that you don't get to a point where you don't give your absolute best anymore. Well if that's evident to him then you come off as someone who's just playing around as well.
Nope I don’t play around. I just don’t like wasting my time.
Nobody likes wasting their time. And i said " come off as playing around" not playing around. Just like you might write a guy off over a feeling you got about him. A guy night write you off for the same reason.
Love is not easy to get. Are you crazy?
And I like the quote.
@Jamie05hrs Fake love that is, my bad
Okay. I'm with you on that, I guess.
I have put in effort and attempted to go see a guy... and he stood me up. Why should I put in effort if the other person is not putting any in.
No don't! Honestly, this comment was mean! It's not always you! It can very well be the other party! Don't lose your self respect and you'll have a better radar for detecting the ass holes and you'll be well wise to avoid them if possible during your dating adventure! There's a lot of them out there so you're not alone! So be careful! Guard your heart and mind! Don't just go in! Otherwise you will be the one that ends up hurt! ... And if you DO find a special somebody/someone! KEEP them in any way possible! :-) Good luck, you'll need it!
If that's the case, that doesn't really have anything to do with the quote that you posted. Yeah, if you try, and they don't; that's totally different. I'd say just move on, then.I took the quote as coming from some entitled princess that wants a guy to do all the work, while she gives nothing back, and that's wrong.
You are trying to date above your sexual market value, simple as that. Meanwhile the men you should be dating are being treated the same way and experiencing the same frustrations.In your case, you should be trying to date men who are much younger than you and who aren't yet mature or financially secure, because the men of your age and status are all busy plundering the supply of young women who were supposed to be those younger men's girlfriends and wives. Men don't want age and maturity, we want youth and vitality.
I am not interested in younger men.
Lol asker 1 guy stood you up. How traumatizing was that? Have that happen about a 100 times and now you're getting what it's like to be a guy. Guys are expected to chase chase chase. And a lot of women lead guys on just for sport. It really shouldn't come as a surprise to women that eventually those guys say i'm done after a while. And that leaves you with the trash you women like to complain about.
I did not lead him on. He led me on... and got with some chick that looks like Whoopi Goldberg. And it’s not the first that I got stood up... I got stood up by a guy I was in relationship with who smoked weed and forgot that we were supposed to spend time.
I didn't ask who you are interested in dating, I was just informing you of your options. You could also date men who are much older than you but who have not done well in life. Or you can be with a single mom who has daddy issues or deep financial baggage. It's not the worst thing in the world, you know, to be stuck with these people. There are lots to choose from and many of them are very nice people.
Be with a single mom? I am not a lesbian. I have dated older men that have done well in their life. And I already know my options.
@SkipStopA lot of guys look at women as if they are not anymore than a sexual object to be used as such. With that said it's not just women that are corrupt. Not all women or guys are corrupt.
@MysteriousDarkness I never said anything about women being sex objects. I'm talking about women who are what I consider "Wife and mother material". The traditional and conservative type of girls. I don't wanna be with some slut or chick who will steal my money and falsely accuse me of rape. I want the old school type. But the amount of those girls has declined significantly. They are very hard to find these days.
@StephenCF I wouldn't date with a man who says to me: "Hey, slut! You like dick?"😒and i would think he is a perverted fuckboy😅
@StephenCF Romance before: “My love for you burns more than a thousand suns! I wish to marry you!” it's amazing😍it's very romantic😍i would prefer romance before. i guess you and me Stephen have "romance before", i mean we live a real romance😍😄
@StephenCF our date will be amazing and romantic😍💏🤗
@StephenCF In the world full of temporary options. You're my permanent choice..❤👫🏻💍
@celin98 “In a world full of temporary options, you’re my permanent choice”... what an amazing, romantic line, askim 😍❤️ It won’t just be our dates that’ll be romantic though, it’ll be our daily lives together 👫💏
that’s a damn good romantic line
Yeah you bring up some good points.From a guys point of viewit seems women in the 25-30 age range don't seem to want to date men in the same age range that still live with their parents, and thus are removing around 50% of potential dates.Things can be going really well meeting and talking to new women, then they learn that I still live with my parents (because rent near Toronto is horrendous) and suddenly I am no longer a dating option.
@Heiniken yeah but it’s probably because those girls also have to live at home and they want to find a guy with an apartment they can move into 😂😂😂
That seems kind of silly when they could both just get an apartment together. Most guys won't have all of the amenities you want already set up for you the second you arrive.
you're so right
"I have to hold back laughter" LOL. I share the same sentiment, for different reasons I think though. It's not the persuing of relationships themselves that I laugh at, it's the often insecure and emasculated cucks that *THINK* they're in relationships with X women. And you can see all their insecurity-ridden behaviours bubble over when a much more threatening guy walks in the room. Ofc then it becomes a self-fulfilling prophecy, they worry "their" girl is more attracted to the other guy, so they end up feeding her to him. And then cry about it after...
@FreshOutaIdeas You're comment about 'emasculated cucks'... reminded me of a guy that thinks he's better than everyone, because he's in a 'long term relationship'. They live together. However, he's in his late 40's but has to hide away his gaming system so his girlfriend does not discover it. He has to make up stories if he wants to buy himself something, and he prides himself in how feminine he is, and how masculine she is.All of his friends say they have seen his girlfriend at the bar with other men... he drives to collect and take her home (no doubt after she's smashed) and it's the only time she's extra affectionate (clear sign). Then he comes up to me and says something about how one day I might be lucky enough to find what he has... bwhahaha
Woah...The guy sounds like an absolute fucking train-wreck! From what you describe, this guy is the absolute epitome of everything that is wrong with the modern man! It seems like he thinks he's a role model for relationships when he's so painfully blind to the fact that not only has he married a dishonest slut, but that his subhuman levels of passiveness have actually exacerbated the little "demon" inside wifey 100x fold... I digress...
23? Sounds like slowing down may help you.
@Darkistoolight__ it was an exaggeration 🤦♀️
And most of those sites are an inaccurate representation of who we are anyway.
All very true, but people will build a foundation out of lies, less risk the truth then take the time to find out.
You know nothing about me
What’s wrong with men?
nothing is wrong with them. I have one I like pretty well. that's enough. men are difficult to keep in captivity. I'd like another girlfriend. and will always be interested in seeing a nude girl. guys just not so much
I would actually say that the hookup mentality came with contraceptives and the internet and tinder simply augmented that mindset exponentially by making it easy to "window shop" for a potential sex partner.
I know, What's up with that?
@JamesRandiDebates@Pixel343A lot of guys suck as well.