Sooo here’s the thing I know it can be difficult to see when it seems like guys just flock.
Being chased means you are at the whim of whoever shows up and have absolutely no control over if that even happens at all or with anyone you like.
What does having a choice mean if there are no options you would choose?
It’s like being vegan in a restaurant where it’s all meet. You can say that’s wasteful and ungrateful whereas it would a totally make me very ill to eat that food.
I would and have traveled miles to get food I can eat. People expect you to just stay out and make do.
It isn’t just a matter of “ well iI if she just wants she may have no control” if she decides to Persue, many guus will turn her down JUST for that. Her gfs will tell her she’s a thing desperate. Guys who liked her will not ecen understand themselves why they feel suddenly turned off.
So she can be bold and go after what she wants and be punished for it. Or wait around like a loser forced to settle on whatever shows up and be miserable. Or not dare at all.
Women can’t have sex without risking reputation. Stuff guys don’t even have to think about. Saying yes too soon. having sex bc they like the guy and want to. Not getting raped. Not being strung along bc the guy just wanted sex. Even saying hey I had fun let’s do it again, is something men expect to be the ones to say.
Obviously not everyone reacts badly to women being direct. And good for the women who ignore that. But it’s a lot of extra energy to just ignore being told to be a deaf and dumb until a guy taps you in the shoulder. And like I said guys will reject you for being a real person.
Also women don’t get chased even by guys they don’t want, after a certain point while they are still relatively young.
You are basically imagining horny guys on campus chasing every single 20 year old they see.
This is not what it is like for women in the real world with jobs , from 25 up.
Anyhiw main point is you severely - like many men- exaggerate this “ choosing” power.
“Men risk Reje toon, women just choose.”
Women are rejected by any guy they like that doesn’t show up for her to choose from. Or any guy she approaches who may have been interested but lost interest bc she didn’t “ wait”
What does it mean to have power to choose when you don’t have power to act.
If you ad w crush on a girl and 500 girls you were not interested in, showed up just for sex, but if you had sex with them in the mean time, no other girl would date you.. certainly not your crush m. it’s not really “power “
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Okay so here is my 2 cents on it.
in some ways yes and in some no.
online it's easy to be aproched but the DTF kinda Guy ruins the experience all the time see there's a lot of accounts online saying so I'm looking for partner I'm looking for relationship when you start talking to them and then literally by the time the moon comes out just like you stop thinking you slack off in very honest questions like how was your day and start saying things like geez that's nice photo I wish it was just a tiny bit lower...
now don't get me wrong I promise you that I'm trying to not be bias based on my own experience. but I'm a girl and YES I do like to have fun. and that is okay aswell. but that does not meen I want you to litraly only ask how I am when you want some tits shoved in your face.
now dating is a ball game that is a unicorn I won't lie. I'm not talking about the quick crab a coffee or a light dinner to pretend that you are going to do somthing other than having fun. I'm talking about picking the girl up from home actually getting out your car and knocking on the dore. now role reversal I have asked many men out and if I ask I pay that my dear people is equality. and if I ask I puck you up from your house getting out of my car and knocking on your door.
I only said no because it's ridiculous to think women have to have all those physical features in a man to be attracted to him. If that were the case women would only date guys that all looked the same. Yet you see women with men that have different body types, with bald heads, different cultures and races that have a variety of features, different penis sizes, eyes, etc... Now I'll give you the height thing. For some reason a lot of women do want a guy that's taller than them. So find a short woman.
But some women can't handle a guy with a bigger penis. I think a lot of women fantasize about how a bigger dick would feel. But once they have it can be too painful. There's also women who love the daddy belly on a man.
Now if all that wasn't your reasoning of why you think men have it harder in the dating world I would have said yes they do have it harder. Why? Because women have more real options especially on the dating apps. Men deal with a lot of the fake bots. Also I believe women drag their feet about meeting up. And yes women don't pursue as much as men so men have more risk of rejection.
From a guys perspective yes. From a girls perspective not necessarily. Girls have it easier getting sex and getting free shit. That's it. So if you define easier time as in easier path to sex. Sure, girls have that easier. If you define it as getting treated well and getting free shit then sure on average girls have it better on average.
Past that it's about the same, just a different set of problems. Girls have to think about their reputation of not seeming like a slut to their friends or surrounding environment. Guys don't. Meaning a girl is motivated to not do what guys are motivated to do. Take risks.
Girls have to think about not pissing other people off for doing what they want with a guy physically. Guys don't for the most part. Meaning again girls are motivated to not do what guys are motivated to do (atleast overtly). Be more bold.
Girls have to think about whether or not this guy 1. is a good option 2. if he can be trusted physically and 3. whether or not he's interested in more than just sex. While for the most part guys don't have to think about that. Sure girls have to be careful about choosing a guy that's low risk for rape, but she's also thinking if the guy is good in bed or if he's worth it past just a one night lay and in the event he is whether or not he's even the guy who may have those intentions of sticking around.
If you look at things from the perspective of intentions and motivations things balance out much more than you think. It's just that for guys and girls our motivations don't necessarily line up and can at times be opposed. Girls have an easier time getting what guys want. Guys have an easier time of getting what girls want.
You could argue it's a chicken or the egg situation and that the reason they don't care is because it's easier for them to have sex. But the same could be said for men. Do men not care as much about getting a girlfriend, because it's not hard to find a girl who wants commitment? Personally I know I feel no rush to get into a relationship. a lot of girls do feel an internal pressure to do so.
Granted a really really hot girl can easily get a boyfriend who would commit. But a really really hot guy can easily have sex. But that's a matter of attractiveness not so much the fact of being a male or female.
Not really. Most girls end up being the ones who reject and have men come up to them, but men choose who they get rejected by and ultimately who they date. It’s very rare for women to go up to the guys “they” really want and put themselves out there. They usually wait for that guy or another to come meet her. There’s exceptions but for the most part girls don’t make the most important move-the first one.
In terms of “choosing” men have a higher chance of finding a partner they want in terms of looks and personality because they can just simply, meet girls until they meet that right one. Most women leave it to chance.
Have you ever heard the phrase “Don’t look for love, let it find you?” It was meant for women. Most men who wait and hope for a women they want to come ask them will die alone.
For guys all it really takes is to be confident, have a healthy body and a job and most won't have trouble getting girlfriends, granted, they’re going out there and approaching. Women have it a bit harder since most guys want a sexually attractive looking women before they even bother getting to know them. Guys have it a bit easier. A man can be butt ugly but if he's charming and makes a girl feel good she’ll marry him.
In terms of finding an “ideal” partner, men have it easier. In terms of finding a “good looking” partner, women have it easier IF they look good themselves but it won’t guarantee them a good one.
If a woman is confident enough to approach men AND she’s attractive though, she has it easier than all of us.
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I don't think women necessarily have it all that easy. I do think they would like men to think that because they brag about how they can always get a date, and they do enjoy if it bothers men. Because they want men to envy something they feel they can have more.
Definitely harder for men. I read the girls answers and it basically just boiled down to them not knowing what guys have to go through to actually get a yes. They don't realize most guys don't have options. They don't realize how many times a guy will get rejected before actually hearing a yes. Women can either wait for someone to come to them, or go out and ask someone and well all know why they refuse to do the latter, because it's the harder option, but women will never admit that men have it worse
Imagine being an employer and getting hundreds of applicants. Your job is to pick the best one. You have to, from the interview process, determine: are they a good fit, are they being earnest, is their personality going to be a good fit for you, what if they are a good fit but not good at selling themselves, you can't conceivably try out each one so you have to know how to pick well. And that's a lot of things to consider when you have so many people. And even then you have to be worried if they're just talking a good game, lying, or something else. It's a commitment of time, energy, that you have to get right lest you miss out on someone good or put emphasis on someone that just knows how to talk the talk. It's no so simple.
Firstly, that overview is extremely vanity based, not everyone dates based on physical appearance.
Secondly, are you kidding dating is a royal pain I the arse for women because we have to deduce which men are genuine and which are just chatting bs to try it on.
And finally, dating is not easy in any way shape or form for any gender, especially this modern day dating which has become so cold and impersonal it's practically impossible to pluck up the courage to put your self out there in the first place.Bruh, i know enough about how life works for this topic. I've seen this kind of thing happen on more than a few occasions, women aren't gods, yes they have it easier but you're blowing it out of the water here... aslo, dont you think that if i didn't know what I was talking about i wouldn't say anything at all in fear of embarrassing myself? Use your head my guy. You think you know a lot about women, but you're just blinded with hatred and you think being older means you know more. In some cases that can be true, but not with your argument pal. Have a nice day and dont have an aneurysm.
Okay, yes and no. Dating isn't easy for most people of any gender and to say one has more is wrong. Not to mention this isn't something that can be measured - only decided and opinionated on. To me, men have it easier. It's not as bad for them if they choose to sleep around and you never hear about the crazy ex boyfriend, it's always the crazy ex girlfriend. However, I know that for men it's likely the opposite. Women probably have more partners to choose from sometimes and while the picture you listed isn't accurate at all, other things come into play as well. It really depends on who is asking and who is answering.
I dated a Chinese woman for 3 years. Treat her like royalty, you get it back. Unless she vanishes for no clear reason. They're impulsive, have lots going on, and don't always think to tell you what's going on before leaping into the fray, leaving you scratching your head at decisions of hers that make no sense.
Long story short, she never hassled me about superficial traits. But then global politics got uglier. And she got cut off from me. What's two lovebirds to a man like Xi, when he loses human trafficking money due to Trump and now has a score to settle?In my opinion; Because in a guys' mind, we can just walk up to girls and only worry about rejection at worst case, also guys can be more desperate, you know what I mean.
But In a girls' mind, they might think more about the situation, or maybe be prone to worry more about being if she's being used and also the guys' intentions and other things. Maybe even like what would this guy would do for her in the future.. Generally just think more into it. Depends on the girl and the general situation, she may just not think much at all.
Plus, if she's just the kind of girl to show off when her friends are around, she might reject him just to look cool in front of her friends, if she's That girl. No guy even wants someone like that tho...Women have definitely a problem to find partners who want more than sex. I had sex with few women who just wanted a short adventure without any obligation, but I heard always deep inside them the desire for a partner who would love them.
I think many men nowadays have a problem to appear sexually attractive for women, but most women have a problem to appear psychologically and emotionally as attractive partners.
In matter of finding a sex partner it's easy for girls. A man won't say no to unconditional sex if he is single. aThis chart misses the point.
The thing is that women in the young adult age bracket 18-25(?) have a statistical advantage. There's plenty of guys their own age, but also 1-2 generations older that would want to date/sleep with them. Of course this results in them being more picky, I mean wouldn't you? but...
... that advantage only lasts a couple of years.
Men in their 30's have similar advantages in that they are desirable to younger, same age and older (provided that they aren't unemployed, struggling etc.)That image is just dumb. You don't see women come to men's social media to insult them that they aren't ripped enough for their taste, but you do see men coming at women's pages to complain about their boob/ass size and other stuff as if those women exist to. please every man and they failed.
Men can get athletic with exercise, women don't get a hourglass body unless they were born with it or had plastic surgery. Women are judged by wearing/ not wearing makeup, if they don't have perfect doll skin, if they have body hair (even in nornal limits) if they have cellulite and many more.
Women need to worry about a lot more. Yeah, you guys need to do stuff too. But stop expecting to get stuff with 0 effort. Girls have to do stuff and so are you. You are not the ones who have it hardest.the fact so many girls voted no i think they misunderstand the question,
i think they think ur asking if its harder to get a date with a guy they like or find the perfect man,
but no what ur really asking here is it easier for girls to get dates... and it absolutely is... you have to be blind or ignorant to disagree with me here... guys are horny pigs and will fuck pretty much any girl.,... and girls look naturally cute asf anyway so it really isn't hard for a girl to get a date... pretty much any girl can aslong as she isn't hideous... but guys have it way harder cos guys aren't physically gifted and girls are very picky.,.. they only want handsome muscluar guys and obviously only a small percentage of guys are what girls are looking for... so naturally its harder for a guy to a get a girl intrested... but for a girl... its very easySomewhat... yes. If you are average looking, and not fat, reasonably intelligent and witty, someone out there will date you.
However, I do think standards do rise quite quickly, if you want to have high standards in men, quite quickly you've got to be very attractive, in good physical shape and mentally sharp.
I would say overall it's easier for women to get dates. But isn't this sort of human nature? I mean haven't studied it, but I watched a documentary about human sexual behaviours, and I think it said that most 'average' men are chasing almost all the women but the top ranked 50% of women are chasing the top 5% of males. Just because women are programmed to have high standards since it takes so much effort raise children etc and we require many thing to help. (don't attack me if my science is wrong, that's just what I read)Honestly I'm stuck on how to vote. I get that a lot of guys assume that women have it easier but in this day and age it's really hard to speculate who has it easier.
Both sex have competition, we both have vanity issues, trying to keep up with what's hot what's not, dealing with our own personal insecurities and we all have that insane fear of rejection.
So many questions on both sides... I would say that we all have it equally balanced really.Both genders have it not easy.
I personally would prefer a man who is not fat and has a "manly" hair cut (not those Justin Bieber hair cuts). And he must not smoke. The rest is character study.
It depends on the guy what he prefers in his date: Does he like her skinny/normal/a bit overweight? Is he okay with her wearing no/a little/a bit more makeup? Is he ok with her smoking/not smoking? Rest is character study.
Sure, there are always people who want to meet their perfect prince/princess and in the end they need to go on a lot of dates because they're so picky. But it's their loss if they want their Ken/Barbie that desperately.I do believe woman have it a bit easier, but that chart is quite stupid. Most of the points are a lie. I perfectly find attractive guys with soft jawline or negative slanted eyes, and I don't even need a guy to be tall or fit.
I would say girls have it easier because some guys (not all, thankfully), just want a girl to date (and fuck), and they don't really care who she is, as long as she's pretty.Honestly? Yeah they do.
And if the counter argument is "no it's hard for women cuz guys cheat/treat them bad" ... Nah. There's good dudes out there. If you choose to stay around bums, that's on you.Easy for sex hard for commitment. They are one swipe away from sex. And they don't care how good or nice or caring the guy's personality is. They only care physically strong looking and highly masculine traits when it comes to sex. Even some women have boyfriends when they are horny go look for short term sex partner. Some women are lucky to have a guy has both but those are rare. So for women looking for those rare guys yeah it's hard. If you want to have sex with women focus on masculinity be ultra confident, masculine guy and have muscles. If you want to be boyfriends then focus on personality.
how hypocritical of the women answering this poll question. They have it so easy that they take it for granted, there were too many difficulties for guys but specially brutal for those who lack social skills, and are in the autism spectrum. with no social skills a woman will get plenty of dates. dating is easier for girls, but exponentially more difficult for guys suffering from autism and even worse for those with no help among those with autism. whatever advantages you may have such as looks athletics etc are completely overshadowed by lack of social skills.
A women who finds dating hard usually complains about finding and meeting the wrong guys, a guy who finds dating hard finds zero and I mean absolutely zero women who even want to look in his direction let alone date the dude, so ya women obviously have it easier but that’s not necessarily a bad thing, I know a lot of dudes who had to work on themselves hard, as in working out everyday getting a high paying job and becoming financially stable just to meet a women while women who find it easy don’t do anything to better themselves and end up just popping out a bunch of kids at 19 and living off the government, so really I think it just motivates men to work harder on themselves while women have less motivation since guys are easy to find
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