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Haha, that is funny. Maybe for some women but not all of us.
Try being a black female trying to find a date or a man that doesn't want to just get in your pants. Not easy at all.
Nobody wants to to be hurt by women so hence the fuck boy if I ever get with a girl my goal if to smash twice then leave there’s I see nothing else good about women besides pain
no ! we do not have it easy ! for we want to dress nicely and maybe a little sexy without getting raped , left with the check to pay and no money with us for he made the date and should pay for it in the first place or we wait for an hour and are stood up by him
men typically have a 50-65% chance to strike out.
women typically have a 25-40% chance to strike out.
partly due to primal urges. because men often try to mate with any or all possible women. while women often try to find the best possible mate they can. however this is not always true.
Yeah, I think they do. Look at what guys will compromise on or accept to get a woman. For example, there is no male equivalent of a BBW and look how much easier it is for any single mom to get a man than fir a single father to find a woman willing to be his girlfriend.
If by easy you mean they get more attention and more offers, then holy shit yes. But attention isn't always what you want and a lot of offers are really unattractive.
Here’s my analogy.
Imagine you have a 30 minute break and you’re about to go off and quickly buy yourself something for lunch, you have several different options.. There’s a street full of fast food restaurants while the street across is full of organic health food stores..
You’re tempted to choose fast food over the healthy food, because it’s cheap and convenient.. but you want something that will satisfy your hunger as well as improve your diet.. So you go for the healthy food.
here's my analogy you're wandering in the desert for years with no food or water and then a piece of chicken comes up and says hey wanna eat me so you go sure and then it turns out they didn't want to be eaten and they call you a misogynist
@armleg I chortled at that boner.
9 times out of 10 the man is supposed to approach the woman. That makes it 200000000x harder for guys who have anxiety or get nervous easily. It's also seen as feminine for guys to hang around with girls they aren't going out with which makes less guys want to talk to girls making them more nervous when talking to girls
I love how nearly 70% of men on this site say they 'have it easy'. It may be easier for women to get laid if that's what they want, but not easier to find a worthwhile boyfriend. It can actually be difficult for a woman to find a decent man, who is respectful, not sexist and worthy of settling down with.
Well in order to find a girlfriend you have to attract her sexually first right? So if you can't get laid you can't get a girlfriend either
@Optymistyk please tell that to everyone here! That's the main point!
@Optymistyk A lot of women date with a guy they don't find sexually attractive. Women have two needs. One habing wild sex with some masculine hot guy, and getting commitment from loyal, caring guy. Some guys have it both but not all women can get those. So they fuck hot ones and look for some nice caring boyfriend type of guy then.
@Mamamialetmego yeah and then they cheat on them or leave them because they don't find them sexually attractive
Alpha fucks beta bucks
@Optymistyk yessss this is how it goes.
@Mamamialetmego You really believe that's how things go? Wow who hurt you?
Dude on average men cheat much more than women. Women do care about how you look and they pick their boyfriend who treat them well and give them good sex, which most guys can provide. That idea that they need a big muscular dude to satisfy them is stupid. And this coming from the big muscular dude.
@Optymistyk You where spot on before and just went downhil! Do you really agree with that nonsense?
Yes women cheat, surprise surprise, so do we! More often even...
You imagine that every average girl in the world is going to cheat at the first oportunity with a big douch? This isn't a novel! Most women will tell those assholes to fuck off.
@Mamamialetmego Only desperate or very insecure women will date a guy they're not attracted to.
@ThisIsMyOpinion well now you're putting words in my mouth
I just said if a woman doesn't find her boyfriend sexually attractive she's likely gonna break up with him at some point or cheat. I don't blame her I would break up with a girlfriend if I had no attraction towards her too. Well I wouldn't get into a relationship with her in the first place but women are different and I've learned long ago not to try to understand them
@Optymistyk I guess I projected the other guy's way of thinking into you, my bad.
Still I don't imagine many girls entering a relationship with a guy they don't find sexually attractive. I mean, most of human beings don't.
@ThisIsMyOpinion obviously you don't know women much.
@ThisIsMyOpinion they do all the time. Women are looking for sexy lovers and commited providers. They rarely can get commitment from the actually hot guys so they just have sex with them and then they look for a beta who's gonna provide them with resources and security in exchange for sex. In chimpanzees this often leads to cuckolding, an evolutionary strategy where a female Has a child with a genetically superior Alpha and tricks the Beta into thinking it's his so he would help her raise it. In humans it mostly results in cheating cuz there's anticonception avaiable. I think way more women cheat than get caught
@Mamamialetmego hahaha I have three sisters and I am married dude. I know them very well
@Optymistyk that's were we don't agree. You don't have to be a super tall, muscular macho man to satisfy for lady in bed. Girls don't need to look for sex outside of their relationship if they are satisfied.
This works for guys too. A girls doesn't have to be a Victoria secret model to please her guy.
That chimpanze thing makes no sense with us. Follow me on this. Let's say a girl is cheating. How the hell will she be sure the baby is from the other guy? She is having unprotected sex with both and there no guarantee she will get pregnant the first time she doesn't use contraception not even close! And again if she gets what she needs at home no worries.
@Optymistyk Exactly. Woman can have a boyfriend or husband even those can be sexually attractive to her but she still can have multiple affairs with different hot guys. A lot of married women have affairs or at least think about other guys. Evolution made them this way. They always wanna get better deal. Either genes or resources. You can be hot boyfriend still she have capacity to cheat on you. I've read an article females both humans and chimps can have a lot of affairs while ovulating with strong males and then make them compete their sperms.
@Mamamialetmego are you one of those guys that believes that women are driven by resources and sex? So you believe men chose women just for sex? No my friend! We are all humans, we go for the person that we love that makes us feel better and cam be a partner for life.
What you describe is a very small percentage of people, shitty people, not the majority not even close.
@ThisIsMyOpinion no you don't have to be a muscular matcho but you have to be hot in some way. I never really understood womens sex drive. Like women find successful or popular men sexy.
The chimpanzee mother doesn't know who is the father either. She just follows her instinct. Women don't think "oh I'm gonna cuckold this guy", they just want sex with a hot guy.
@Optymistyk its not that hard do understand =) just like guys it varies from girl to girl. We all like different things, some are more cliche like muscles, height, status etc. Simply understand that different people want different things and voilá!
That's the thing, if what she has at home satisfies her sexually why is she going to need to cheat? If she doesn't like she will break up right at the beginning of the relationship, not keep being fucked by someone she doesn't want.
@ThisIsMyOpinion yes everyone is different but still guy has to be confident, outgoing, masculine enough. Status doesn't mean just money or fame also means social skills, being social. Women can't have that dream guy has it all those guys already rare 1 - 2% so what they do they look for a guy that has enough of those traits. Guy has to be tall but not like too much if he's taller than girl it's acceptable, he has to have enough confidence and some style. He has to have somewhat okay acceptable face and okay body. And i can go on and on. But she still can be open to look for more hotter guys to bang.
@ThisIsMyOpinion nah, why do you think women push so hard for relationships with normal guys? No sex before third date/marriage and he must pay for her and he must be wealthy and caring and treat her like a princess and shit. Meanwhile they absolutely throw their tits at some guys. It's because normal guys have to prove themselves to be good providers. But a sexy guy they want for sex and they know these guys have options so they don't play games and just fuck.
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@Mamamialetmego You are leaving out who he is! You can talk about all the cliche traits that women look for in a man, but we fell in love for someone's personality.
Yes of course, every person, guy and girl, has a standard of how good tthose cliche traits must be in their partners. He needs to be this tall, this cute, this level of income and education, etc. But if a guy fills all the minimun requirements and has a personality that she loves, he is perfect for her! She won't go after or need anyone else. Unless she is a cheating hore, aka a small fraction of women.
@Optymistyk Dude the guy in that conversation just dodged a bullet! She is a spoiled brat so not relationship material.
Many, many, MANY girls are not like that!
Case and point, my wife makes more money than me! Not a lot more, but still more. And before you say "Oh he is the beta that she could get while she fucks others" well I am ripped and practice muay thai.
Were do we fit on your theory?
You are just lookong at bad examples and make a rule out of them. NO! The cases you describe are the exceptions my friend!
@ThisIsMyOpinion why do you think being Alpha has anything to do with how much money you earn? If you are ripped and train Muai Thai you're not a beta most likely
@Optymistyk my point is she didn't ask me to pay for everything and treat her like a princess. She didn't push me hard like you said. We just met had a good time and things happened.
If a girl acts like the one from that text just walk away. Look for a better one.
@ThisIsMyOpinion no she didn't act like that because she already finds you sexy. You are a ripped Muai Thai dude, you probably have some success with women. That guy isn't ripped or sexy so she just wanted him as a provider. That's why she expected him to pay 110 euro for her. Notice she still wanted a relationship with him even though she clearly doesn't find him attractive.
@Optymistyk wrong. She didn't did that because she isn't like that. That bitch only wants his money because she is like that.
Is a matter of individuals.
Which one we think is more frequent is where our opinions diverge.
@ThisIsMyOpinion No you're missing the point. Look there's such a thing as the 80/20 rule
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Basically women are more picky when it comes to sex and they find 80% of men to be "below average", aka not sexually attractive. They only want to have sex for the sake of having sex with the top 20%. This causes an imbalance where the top 20% of men sleeps with the top 80% of women. The top 20% are the alphas. But then one day the woman wants to settle down and have someone who would help her raise her children, and also because there's a lot of pressure to have an actual boyfriend or a husband, especially since the feminine beauty is fleeting. Well they usually can't get into a relationship with the alpha because most of these girls are average. Only the top 20% of women ends up in a relationship with the top 20% of men. So what do they do now, they want commitment but all the sexy guys are taken. Well they have to settle for a "beta". They don't really want sex from a beta male, they just want someone who is actually going to be there when they need him to provide resources and security and help raise her offspring. But since they are now in a relationship with a guy they don't desire sexually they might likely end up cheating
@Optymistyk I agree with you but those numbers have no scientific proof. I believe in real world it's much more bigger than 20%. It's really narrow number. There are somewhat tall average looking little bit confident guys out there considered really hot by women. So 20% is not 20% no one in this world can quantify that number. There are online dating stats but those are not representation of real life. There are too much men than women online active so maybe that number 50% to 80% in real life. Note that also most guys or girls aren't that good looking. There are really few men women outhere really good looking.
@Optymistyk Oh I have seen that graph before. You are not the first, sadly probably not the last, to use it as an argument here. I don't believe in that women only go for 20% of men crap. Come on you really think only 20% of all men in the world have a regular sexual partner? And the other ones who have and are not the 20% elite are getting cheated on? That's a very incorrect generalisation to make.
@Mamamialetmego Then what part do you agree with him on? The part where most women settle for beta male who they don't want to have sex with? Again, come on! That beta alpha thing is stupid on it's own. What you see on TV, shows etc is not real life. Women want more than just money and resources from us! They want us for who we are!
My sister, she is my sister but I know how hot she is, is at least an 8 in looks and she is going to marry a guy next year who is really fat! Like really! No he is not rich he has the same job as she does. But he is an amazing guy, super cult, very intelligent, witty, nice and helpfull.
Stop with those cliche generalisations about what women want. They want and value much more than what you think.
@ThisIsMyOpinion no. Top 20% of men sleep with top 80% of women. So if you want to just get laid and you're not in the top 20% it's going to be very hard. And if you can't get laid it means girls are not sexually attracted towards you. And since girls aren't attracted towards you then the only way you're going to have sex is if you prove yourself to be a good provider. But that's not love I think.
See for yourself, grab an average guy and go to the club to pickup girls. See if he can get laid. Surely if women were attracted towards him he should be able to take one home right?
@Optymistyk So 80% of men can only have 20% of women? Women only find 20% of all men alive sexually attractive? So women only fuck an average guy in case he gives her stuff? Read it again and try to see how absurd it sounds.
Women are not machines where hotness or "providing" comes in and sex comes out. It's not that linear. I know, more than one, guy that is ugly as hell, doesn't makes more money than his girlfriend and yet has a gf! How do you explain that? They don't provide nothing that she can't have on her own, they are not particularly hot and yet have amazing girls. It's because they charmed them with who they are. Charisma and personality goes a long way.
Yes the average guy can go to a club and get a one night stand. He does have to try harder then what he would have if he was a girl, but he is doing it.
@ThisIsMyOpinion he can be a provider in other ways than just money. An important part of being a provider is giving the girl security. Really the thing that makes you a provider material is being loyal to the girl and a good potential husband/father. Girls don't care about that if they're just looking to get laid. His girl probably is average at best too, like maybe 6 tops
Average guys can get laid in a nightclub. After like 20 approaches (5% success ratio is still considered good for an average guy). With an average or below average looking girl
@Optymistyk But being a good husband/father material means a lot! You are responsible, kind, have a personality that matches her, etc. That is sexy as fuck to girls! And don't fool yourself no girl will marry a guy who they don't want to fuck. Only gold diggers do that. No guy or girl wants a person not sexually compatible.
Believe me she is an 8 at least.
It may take some tried, but he can. The point is that he can and he is an average guy.
I only say yes as a guy because I think my standards might be lower than those of the girls that technically meet my lowest standards. I might just be self-conscious, but I believe if I asked someone out that seemed to be in my league, I would most likely get rejected, and speaking for myself, I would be flattered if anyone at all asked me out or thought I looked good.
I think it can be easier to attract a partner definitely if you're attractive. I've never had an issue getting a boyfriend. It's harder though to make sure you're not dating someone with bad intentions or unhealthy behaviors.
men have to risk going to jail just to talk to women
@armleg guys can go to jail just from talking to girls? You are American right?
@ThisIsMyOpinion deam that stings xD
Women have it easier, I’m sorry but the wonders good make up and some tight clothes and heels will do. For a guy he has to be chivalrous, indicate he has money, be funny, be talkative, not show signs of horniness, be a certain height for her liking, in shape, and the list goes on and on. You know how many girls have approached me to ask me out? Zero.
No, they don't have it easy, but they do have it easier than guys. It's always harder for the party that has to sell themselves to the other in all facets of life, be it product sales, or seeking employment, or dating, or trying to get capital to start a business.
Easy?
If a man goes outside and ask 10 women for a date what is the average man going to come up with?
Now the same if a woman goes out and ask 10 men for a date?
Mgtow the sexual market place. If your average, college, decent job, not crazy, average build and looks, Your the majority of men women settle for as they aim higher. Its not a pretty picture but it is a truth as old as time.
Obviously men wants some kitty, hit and quit
Yes, the numbers are definitely on their side. In a general sense women are usually the choosers, men are usually the beggars. Look at how many messages an average looking woman will get on a dating app vs how many a man will get. That's a reflection of offline life. You'll rarely meet a guy that's tied of being hit on by several women a day, but the opposite is true of most women.
Men are the choosers. Women are the confirmers. I think girls only get a lot of attention on the internet.
@sixgun
You’re dead on accurate.
However for the sake of a good laugh read what the women had to say. Most of them (and they’re almost all under 30) don’t seem to think they have it that easy.
They’re obviously not good leftists and are blind to their female privilege. They’re also oblivious to what they really mean. They have no trouble meeting men in a general sense, just one the fits their very extensive list of criteria.
The funny thing is if they think it’s rough now I hope they won’t have to date at my age when men can be very picky and choosy and easily date 5-10 year younger women.
Thre long and short of ot is that women have it much easier when it comes to getting first dates. They're still going to have to go through lots of chaff before they'll find any wheat, but they'll have many more tries on average than men will.
Can't speak for anyone but myself and it isn't hard to find a date, but them sticking around is another story. I'm me 100% of the time, I don't compromise myself to impress people, some men don't like it, but my current SO does.
I can’t speak for other women. It’s easy for me to get a date but it doesn’t mean the guy will stay kind, not ghost me, not try to use me, etc. It doesn’t mean we will always be attracted to each other.
Women have it easier at the start being the most valuable they ever will be and every year and dick they take they lose their value. Men start with a little value and slowly increase until they are about 2x more than any woman ever was when they reach late 30s to early 40s. But many men fall off the path in their 20s and 30s or get married. So the demand is very high for high quality men. Nobody wants a mid 30s woman. They have zero value at that point so hopefully they are in a happy marriage.
Maybe I was the exception to the rule. Of course, your image doesn’t say “don’t be over 6 feet tall” or “don’t be remotely interested in guy stuff” lol.
Really, you’re just going to get all the men saying YES and all the women saying NO.
Cool, thanks for the downvote Asker, even though I was only talking about myself and not the other 3.5 billion women. 😂😂😂
That flyer forgot to mention the following under women:
1. "Don't be shallow."
2. "Don't be conceited."
3. "Don't be superficial."
4. "Don't be self-centered."
Guys? Don't you agree?
Not even that, if she is pretty she can have the four. there's horrible women with boyfriends out there.
Guys generally try hard to make the women they date happy to nurture their relationship so it can go further. I believe we have a duty to also make the guys happy as well. It's supposed to be a 2-way street. It's not all about us.
Guys don't have the luxury of having standards here
@Wolkmi: The 4 factors I mentioned should be the "creed" which the "gifted but conceited pretty woman" should practice to avoid being horrible to the guys.
I agree with this, but the points can (and do) get added to the men section as well.
Pretty young women do have it easy as far as finding a guy. That doesn’t necessarily mean she will end up being with a good guy. A lot of well intentioned women have ended up with complete shitbags through no fault of their own or just not knowing what to look for. That’s why women should be discerning and have high standards. If a man wants to complain about it then they should raise their value to get a high value woman.