Why there is no loyalty in relationships anymore?

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Barrabus_the_Free · Accepted Answer

Because what's the point in being loyal to a creature that is incapable of returning your loyalty? All those 'old ways' that were thrown out for being 'oppressive' or some kind of -ist, they existed because people a lot smarter than we obviously are knew that female nature left unrestricted makes civilization impossible. Civilization is dependent upon stable family units and men creating a surplus and building rather than destroying. The best way to achieve that is for him to have some skin in the game. A wife and some kids. Men will build and produce massive amounts of surplus for their family. And used to do exactly that.

Nowadays though, they're withdrawing more and more. Producing just enough to support themselves, while leaving plenty of time for leisure. There's no reason to work 70 hours per week when all you need is enough for rent, food/utilities/car expenses, and enough to cover your hobbies and hanging out with friends. Since marriage has been destroyed, divorce is almost a certainty for any man that *does* get married, he'll get positively fucked in said divorce, and there's a high probability that any children won't actually be his, it eliminates any positive incentives that once existed.

One of the first things you learn in an economics course are the Principles of Economics, and one of them is "People respond to incentives". When the only incentives regarding something are negative (punishment basically), and the chance of said punishment actually happening is high, less people are willing to do whatever it is. Marriage is one example. Selling hard drugs (i. e. *not* weed), running guns, and murder are a few others.

Even men that aren't highly intelligent are adaptable and learn. Nature made us that way. If your prehistoric ancestor watched someone else get filled with quills when he tried to grab a porcupine, and he grabbed a big rock or hefty stick to bash the critter instead, he survived and possibly passed his genes on. Women have always been protected and coddled, and never had to adapt. The mating strategy they employ today has worked since before the Ice Age, no need to change anything. When monogamy was a thing that society desired and cheaters and single mothers were shamed and ostracized, they had to keep their cheating low-key or married a chump before the pregnancy started to show, but they still did the exact same thing they do now.

People that don't realize this are shocked at all the stories about how these ancestry DNA tests are showing that their 'father' is in no way related to them. They're shocked when they learn that some countries have outlawed DNA testing for determining paternity, and there are even examples of US courts disregarding the results of a test and making a guy pay for kids that aren't his.

Aethereal · Accepted Answer

I think it's because no one takes these things seriously anymore. Even worse is this (crazy) idea that not taking things seriously is becoming (or has already become) a good thing/trait. It's all about having fun, short-term happiness, and ignoring the responsibilities and consequences of our decisions in relationships. No one seems to care (enough) about investing/working on the relationship. We take our partners for granted, expecting them to be there regardless of what we do (even when we hurt their feelings with our decisions and actions). The mentality of doing what makes you alone happy, even if you hurt your partner's feelings in the process overall cheapens the idea of a serious relationship. It breeds resentment. Yet because so much time has been wasted on a poor relationship with an inconsiderate partner, walking away becomes scary/stupid; so we try to have our cake and eat it too: To keep the relationship while seeking love and respect elsewhere. Tragic.

MissDawn7961 · Accepted Answer

because some people are not mature enough or deserve a relationship like that

PondyPand · Accepted Answer

there's plenty in decent people.

sunsurfer0812 · Answer

Because it's too easy to blame your partner for "not meeting their needs" when most of the time it would come down to having a conversation about what each person needs and wants sexually in the relationship but are too chicken shit to ask for it. So they go look and apparently it's not hard to find someone who will gladly give your partner what they are too embarrassed to ask their partner for. Obviously they really don't care what the other person thinks of them but to their partner it really matters

Besomorph · Answer

A friend of mine told me a few months a go: since 2015 there is no possibility of getting a relationship anymore that is built up on honesty and loyalty
And he is completely right
There are only women left who like to cheat or who don't know what they want
The funny thing is: the age doesn't matter in this case - a 15 year old is on the same level of stupid as a 30 year old

Heads up buddy i suffer the same fate

Djaay · Answer

Men are not bound by loyalty , women are. Some men choose to not lead as they're supposed to , which in turn produces 0 loyalty in a relationship.
Then again women are'nt loyal either , just interested. When she looses her interest , your turn is now over.

Jlegacy · Answer

I guess loyal people either get hurt or get killed for people who don't deserve shit. My loyalty goes to God alone. And the girl God says deserves it. As for all others don't count on it.

Somethingwittty · Answer

Because you dont have the qualities women want to stay with you so they look elsewhere. you're not entitled to what you dont earn lol.

highjinx · Answer

because you go out with little ho's. but there fun for the moment.

ramifb11 · Answer

Its bcs no one is as mature as we used to, plus u don't find a husband at a bar :)

OddBeMe · Answer

Speak for yourself. But possibly because we’re all looking for “perfect” partners when perfection doesn’t exist. We also want instant gratification in this social media world.

Gamillions · Answer

nature intended for men to spread their seed to many women. so grab your watermelon seeds and go spread them.

Cannuck22 · Answer

I don’t agree with that. Sure there are people that cheat. But for the most part I think people are committed

Stan_Control_ · Answer

There is loyalty in relationships. Life just tends to put pressure on it.

Jackpot777Returns · Answer

Fuck it it is better that way this way no one expects me to be loyal

Anonymous · Answer

disrespect, disloyalty is directly linked to disrespect. they don't respect you, so, they aren't loyal to you

luggulf · Answer

Of course there's someone you can trust me I'm old school in the gentleman

Gunarchist · Answer

I think it exists, but it seems so rare.

Anonymous · Answer

Feminism.

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