My choice would be for the intelligent independent successful woman. She will remain interesting far beyond the time the clueless boring bimbo loses my attention.
I live smart independent confident women that are not afraid to take on the world who has a good heart that can read people and likes to get dirty one day and can be so hot and sexy the next day
I'm on the fence, It's not her fault she's dumb and I'd take care of her however someone with brains Is good also and anyway I'm not one to be pregidiced
Well taken care of woman. Work out, eat right, live clean and work hard. So... someone in between. Both money and beauty fade, my persoanlity preference is a keeper.
Usually the women that refer to themselves as "independent" have bad personalities and often argue with their SO and always want things their own way all the time.
Successful, independent woman don't seem to want me because I have a kid and I can't travel and I'm tied down. Bring on the cute, clueless younger women to break my heart. LoL.
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lol no why should someone break your heart. I never knew older woman had issues with kids. I'm sorry to hear that
Thanks. I get these women in their early twenties messaging me. They tell me that age doesn't matter and I start to believe them and I fall in love like I'm 23 again. Then they meet someone their own age and ghost me. LoL! My 40 year old ex cheated and left because she said she wanted to travel. I have a kid to look after. It's her kid too, but she seems to forget that.
people are selfish and get their priorities wrong most of the times. I think this happens when someone is not clear with what they want and dont want and assume it. Then they get into a relationship and just get frustrated and upset with everything and everyone. Trying to fill a void they themselves dont know how to fill. You can still travel with a child it is a matter of budget, good planning and mutual support. I see it all the time at airports. families travel with more than one child. Children were meant to be a joy and not a burden. It is like being unable to travel because you have a boss! if unemployed, I bet you would just ride somewhere. But when you got a job you budget your travels and plan them according to your work commitments. Anyways, I think it is unfortunate that people (both men and women) avoid partners with kids like they're the plague! humanity disappoints me sometimes. Just keep your chin up and face it with grace and good sense of humor. It will come to you. Maybe participate in activities or be at places where you can meet a single mom who is kind and responsible. Leave the young and pretty I don't think it is the best thing for you or your child. I wish you the best of luck though 🌹
I'd have to meet and get to know both before I decide. After all, this isn't a grocery store - I'll take the blonde with the 160 iq and blue eyes with hour-glass figure... yeah, it doesn't work that way.
Those aren't mutually exclusive terms there is no reason to believe that it is your sucess rather than your age or something to explain why they aren't interested in you if infact that is even the case.
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I agree. My question fails to address the character and values of a woman. Also, it tends to group a huge diversity of human beings into two simplified spectrums. Thank you for noticing that :) . It is still interesting to me to see the interactions and different opinions expressed here.
Last time I was with a clueless girl, the cops came over and took her away. Turns out she had amnesia. So I'll go with successful independent woman even if I'm at an age where I am clueless.
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lol dude are you serious. I died laughing. You always have the funniest comments of all.
Many men are known on G@G about how their dick is shaped. But me... they call me the funny boy. Ever since Arkham Asylum, Gotham's criminally sick hospital was liberated by the joker, my master plan is to make... jokes and get more attention from ladies than all these thirsty boys.
Being clueless (innocent) is super attractive. It doesn't exclude being independent either. If by 'independent' you mean 'overcompensating for average looks' - that is not much of a quality for most men. If you mean beautiful AND successful - I'd be surprised to learn such a thing existed (women simply go only the shortest distance possible - only men who are good looking and independent can be found, and those are very rare too)
Thank you for your kind words , often get a hostile female response , I simply can't be bothered with " dating " , no bitterness whatsoever towards women , I have a daughter to raise , just the thought of being trapped in a relationship again , after the marriage I endured , then ended , makes me shudder !! One huge advantage for me , is my Male Curse has greatly faded from chronic stress and age , so do not have the drive to pair up anymore , which is greatly liberating, Also prefer my own company , not a " people person " .
capable and self sufficient! but there is nothing that can replace a good companionship, the warmth of the body of a person you love, the care, the touch, and solidarity when you lose a parent achild or a friend. When they are there holding you strong while everyone and everything is trying to screw you up. There is nothing that can replace seeing their assuring eyes before entering a surgery or the minute you wake up from one. The joy of giving each other a family. people now prioritize the wrong things and think remancism is love but it isn't. real life is full of events where you need a chest to lay on and be able to close your eyes in peace. When everything around you goes south and you struggle with your career and then find out that beeing capable and sufficient does not mean you neglect your basic needs and desiees as a human. That joy that you get when you make someone you love laugh and when you take away their pain. When you attend for them when they are sick and they attend to your needs. We were not designed or built to live alone. we are sexual social beings that yearn for intemacy.
you would be amazed how much hardship a person can endure. success is relative and self determined. independence is not always a choice and its not always easy to give up
@KrakenAttackin I don't believe that is totally possible though.. anyway I am not from the US or Europe so I guess we have different definitions for what an independent woman is
I can't debate what happens in another culture neither can I generalize anything about men and women behavior. We come different and there is no war between genders in every day to day life. I have a father, brothers, cousins and colleagues. Why would I have hatred or negative outlook towards men? now, bad and ignorant exist in this world in humans regardless of gender.
There is a certain group who keep on fueling this anger against the other gender in the news or internet. But it is not as common or aggressive as they want it to seem. I see men and women live fine and kind to each other in my community.
I can only speak of myself though and I appreciate your comments. have a lovely day/ evening depending on where you live 🌹
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Is it too hard to find a beautiful yet successful independent woman? If I had to choose it would be a strong independent woman
It reflects that you yourself is a confident, successful and emotionally intelligent man who is okay to be with such a woman.
My choice would be for the intelligent independent successful woman. She will remain interesting far beyond the time the clueless boring bimbo loses my attention.
Interesting view
I live smart independent confident women that are not afraid to take on the world who has a good heart that can read people and likes to get dirty one day and can be so hot and sexy the next day
Definitely 👍
I'm on the fence, It's not her fault she's dumb and I'd take care of her however someone with brains Is good also and anyway I'm not one to be pregidiced
Well taken care of woman. Work out, eat right, live clean and work hard. So... someone in between. Both money and beauty fade, my persoanlity preference is a keeper.
I agree
If he is successful. A beautiful woman. If he is not a successful woman.
smart approach
Successful independent women are actually just as clueless and ten times as arrogant.
There's nothing good about them, they don't even like themselves or each other.
Usually the women that refer to themselves as "independent" have bad personalities and often argue with their SO and always want things their own way all the time.
Successful, independent woman don't seem to want me because I have a kid and I can't travel and I'm tied down.
Bring on the cute, clueless younger women to break my heart. LoL.
lol no why should someone break your heart. I never knew older woman had issues with kids. I'm sorry to hear that
Thanks.
I get these women in their early twenties messaging me.
They tell me that age doesn't matter and I start to believe them and I fall in love like I'm 23 again.
Then they meet someone their own age and ghost me. LoL!
My 40 year old ex cheated and left because she said she wanted to travel.
I have a kid to look after.
It's her kid too, but she seems to forget that.
people are selfish and get their priorities wrong most of the times. I think this happens when someone is not clear with what they want and dont want and assume it. Then they get into a relationship and just get frustrated and upset with everything and everyone. Trying to fill a void they themselves dont know how to fill.
You can still travel with a child it is a matter of budget, good planning and mutual support. I see it all the time at airports. families travel with more than one child. Children were meant to be a joy and not a burden. It is like being unable to travel because you have a boss! if unemployed, I bet you would just ride somewhere. But when you got a job you budget your travels and plan them according to your work commitments.
Anyways, I think it is unfortunate that people (both men and women) avoid partners with kids like they're the plague! humanity disappoints me sometimes.
Just keep your chin up and face it with grace and good sense of humor. It will come to you. Maybe participate in activities or be at places where you can meet a single mom who is kind and responsible. Leave the young and pretty I don't think it is the best thing for you or your child. I wish you the best of luck though 🌹
I'd have to meet and get to know both before I decide. After all, this isn't a grocery store - I'll take the blonde with the 160 iq and blue eyes with hour-glass figure... yeah, it doesn't work that way.
solid point of view I respect that
Thank you.
Are you aware a woman can be both good looking and successful and independent all at the same time?
I have personally seen it
Id take the good looking without successful or independent. 👍
Exactly!
Where is she?
Those aren't mutually exclusive terms there is no reason to believe that it is your sucess rather than your age or something to explain why they aren't interested in you if infact that is even the case.
I agree. My question fails to address the character and values of a woman. Also, it tends to group a huge diversity of human beings into two simplified spectrums. Thank you for noticing that :) . It is still interesting to me to see the interactions and different opinions expressed here.
For me it's a mix of both and neither. If like a beautiful and successful woman but not a clueless---or "independent"---one.
I would not care as long as her personality is amazing
Are you looking fo a man lol
lol why 😅
Maybe you would be interested in me haha
wow so bold 😂
Lol you never know
Message me we can chat
Last time I was with a clueless girl, the cops came over and took her away. Turns out she had amnesia. So I'll go with successful independent woman even if I'm at an age where I am clueless.
lol dude are you serious. I died laughing. You always have the funniest comments of all.
Many men are known on G@G about how their dick is shaped. But me... they call me the funny boy. Ever since Arkham Asylum, Gotham's criminally sick hospital was liberated by the joker, my master plan is to make... jokes and get more attention from ladies than all these thirsty boys.
well, good luck with that
Thank you, sir.
wth 😂😂😂
I'm 56 and would def prefer a successful woman, but a clueless girlfriend is still good, depends on what they're like as a person really,,,
Beautiful clueless any day.
Beauty is not negotiable - and independence is highly highly highly super highly overrated
Beautiful smart is of course just as good
Well said.
Being clueless (innocent) is super attractive. It doesn't exclude being independent either.
If by 'independent' you mean 'overcompensating for average looks' - that is not much of a quality for most men. If you mean beautiful AND successful - I'd be surprised to learn such a thing existed (women simply go only the shortest distance possible - only men who are good looking and independent can be found, and those are very rare too)
Neither... I far prefer the peace and much lower stress of staying single. Equally , neither would be interested in a single dad like me
You can never know.. there are many women who do not mind kids and actually love them
It is nice to see a father putting his kids first though ☺️.. God bless your heart and family and wish you the best
Thank you for your kind words , often get a hostile female response , I simply can't be bothered with " dating " , no bitterness whatsoever towards women , I have a daughter to raise , just the thought of being trapped in a relationship again , after the marriage I endured , then ended , makes me shudder !! One huge advantage for me , is my Male Curse has greatly faded from chronic stress and age , so do not have the drive to pair up anymore , which is greatly liberating, Also prefer my own company , not a " people person " .
I understand and nothing is more valuable than our freedom and peace of mind.. just do what makes you happy dear 🌹
id much rather an indepent woman. as long as she still needed me, of course.
Why she wouldn't? I think both men and women complement each other and fulfill different needs in each other. That's the beauty of it isn't it 🌹
indeed it is. however, self built independent people can be very capable, and totally self sufficient.
capable and self sufficient! but there is nothing that can replace a good companionship, the warmth of the body of a person you love, the care, the touch, and solidarity when you lose a parent achild or a friend. When they are there holding you strong while everyone and everything is trying to screw you up.
There is nothing that can replace seeing their assuring eyes before entering a surgery or the minute you wake up from one. The joy of giving each other a family.
people now prioritize the wrong things and think remancism is love but it isn't. real life is full of events where you need a chest to lay on and be able to close your eyes in peace. When everything around you goes south and you struggle with your career and then find out that beeing capable and sufficient does not mean you neglect your basic needs and desiees as a human.
That joy that you get when you make someone you love laugh and when you take away their pain. When you attend for them when they are sick and they attend to your needs.
We were not designed or built to live alone. we are sexual social beings that yearn for intemacy.
you would be amazed how much hardship a person can endure. success is relative and self determined. independence is not always a choice and its not always easy to give up
so true
The very definition of "independent" is that she DOES NOT need you.
@KrakenAttackin I don't believe that is totally possible though.. anyway I am not from the US or Europe so I guess we have different definitions for what an independent woman is
OK, this is what YOU want in a MAN. No women would tolerate a MAN needing this from a WOMAN.
Research the term "Americunt" and you will see what "strong and independent" woman are in the U. S.
I can't debate what happens in another culture neither can I generalize anything about men and women behavior. We come different and there is no war between genders in every day to day life. I have a father, brothers, cousins and colleagues. Why would I have hatred or negative outlook towards men? now, bad and ignorant exist in this world in humans regardless of gender.
There is a certain group who keep on fueling this anger against the other gender in the news or internet. But it is not as common or aggressive as they want it to seem. I see men and women live fine and kind to each other in my community.
I can only speak of myself though and I appreciate your comments.
have a lovely day/ evening depending on where you live 🌹
If only it actually worked this day with modern women.
I personally like strong, independent women a lot. That being said, I know some friends who don’t. To each their own.
Yeah. We are so diverse in our wantings and needs. So true.