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Yes, it has. There is no longer enough incentive for men to get married or even be in a committed relationship. The benefits to men have virtually disappeared while the risks and costs have increased significantly. Sex is really the only benefit and that can be had easily enough outside of marriage and commitment. friends with benefits relationships are fine.
That thinking right there is part of the problem... If all you see a relationship as is benefit, risk, and cost... Guess you one those that thinks the first date should be refunded... So women are good for just sex... Yeah ok... Maybe women aren't the problem... More this way if thinking is
This way of thinking is a result of what women have done to marriage and relationships. Men choosing not to accept it is a consequence of the problem, not the problem itself. Denying the source of the problem only perpetuates it.
Cuz men do nothing wrong... Yeah get the hell out of here with that crap
Have fun getting old and fat and saggy, with no wife, kids or anyone left to care about you.
The problem with people like you is that they don't think about future at all. They think it's so far away from now as if it won't happen, but the truth is you will be 60 before you know it. If we assume you'll live until you're like 90, that is 30+ years of your life left to live. That is the amount you've been living so far. It's a long time... and now is the time to secure that "far away" future, or it will be too late.
@little_bird1
I would like to add that single people (men & women) can live great lives being single. They don't need another person to be happy. They don't need to be in a relationship. As a matter of fact, if you want a best friend to get a pet - like a dog or a cat. One great Philosopher said, "I've lived with several Zen Masters. They were all cats."
@little_bird1 Secure what future? The one where I commit my life to someone who is likely to divorce me, take my assets and my children and leave me with a monthly child support obligation? Or is it the one where I work my ass off every day and come home every night to work my ass off even more and look forward to my weekend when I get to work my ass off even more, then start it all over again on Monday? Either one sucks IME. It's not what my father and his father had in marriage, and it's not worth the costs and risks anymore. Today's men put way more into marriage and get way less out of it. Will I be lonely when I'm older? Maybe, but I'll take my chances.
@Brainsbeforebeauty I never said men were perfect or never did anything wrong, but it is not men who have gutted the institution of marriage and and turned it into something so unappealing as it it today.
Oh they played a part... How bout the housewives who didn't work or get an education to take care of the house/family and their husbands thought the cute young secretary a better choice so abandoned their families a lot of times without financial support. And umm children are BOTH parents responsibility regardless, not ONLY if you stay with the mom... Anyone who has to be FORCED to provide for their children shouldn't have any
Again, as I've already said, men are not perfect. Just as man men do stupid shit as women. But it is women who redefined gender relations and marriage, not men. It is women who are responsible for the fact that is it now virtually impossible for a married couple to survive without two incomes, even if they wanted to, and many women do wish they could go back to the way things were before everything got fucked up.
Your comments about both parents being responsible for children are completely beside the point. The issue is that the divorce rate has skyrocketed over the last several decades and it is women who file for divorce in 85% of cases.
But regardless, it doesn't really matter much how we got to where we are now. It is what it is. And the FACT is that marriage is a losing proposition for men now. Men get less out of marriage than they put into it. There is not enough incentive anymore for men to take on the costs and risks of getting married. That's a fact and it's all that matters.
There's your problem... Marriage shouldn't be a proposition
What should it be in your estimation?
Men have to do ALL the legwork and take ALL the risks against ALL the odds while women are fatter and lazier than ever and just getting worse yet ever the more demanding! NO THANKS!!!
Sounds like someone has had a bad time
@NoBob117 ;)
It definitely does feel that way though. Good women are going extinct. All that seems to be left are ignorant children who don't even know what they want.
Which is why it's our jobs to stop seeing them when we see them being like you have described. Keep going buddy!
@NoBob117 The problem is American women have been infantalized to the point where they seem incapable of sensing and analyzing their own internal inclinations without contradicting themselves to oblivion, so they rely on the consensus of their circle of "girlfriends'" to form their own opinions and leave men to decipher what it is they truly want and acting accordingly on their behalf.
Not quite but lost of interest with the number of viewers not taking it seriously
It did until i met my wife..
Glad you found her.
Pretty much yes, but I can't even find anyone anyway so it doesn't matter
Yes, yes and hell yes
Was that a hard yes π€π€£ seriously tho, agree π― yeeesss lol
An extremely hard yesssss!
π π π extremely hard is good π π
It just seems that these days if you don't have at least $1000 in your pocket and hung like an ape, no Women want you
They've become extremely entitled to what they think they deserve
Extremely doesn't even begin to explain the hardness!!
π π and please say "some women" not "all" women the same anymore than"all" men the same... Cuz if that was the case, more men would be like my hubby was and then maybe I would be in relationship again... But these days, well there goes the extremely hard again π π
Are you okay?
Did something happen to your hubby?
I said what
I said because that has been my experience with the money hungry hoes
Fair enough.. But not all women "money hungry hoes... And my hubby passed 6 1/2 years ago... And few hell no dates and too much reading crap on G@G and few other things keeps me saying aww hell no
I'm sorry for your hubby I hope he was a good to you. A good woman deserves a good man. I'm a hell of a good man, can't find a woman willing to take the time to find out cuz once they see I'm not going to spend all my money on them in a weekend they disappear
People are stupid π€·πΌββοΈ
May I ask what it is you are referring to?
Nevermind that last question. It was meant to go somewhere else
You said they disappear cuz you don't spend your money on them in a weekend and that's just stupid, there's way more to life than money
Yes there is, maybe you could teach those money-hungry hoes that.
Sure next time you run into one, let me know and I'll set her straight π
I must have lost the history questions here because I don't know what you are referring to. Run into one?
The hard yes ok, I Kno where I'm at now with an extremely hard yesssss at 7:15 am
Are you horny In the morning too? Wanna rub one out with me?
Lol thanks but I'm good π
Party pooper! Rejection, rejection, rejection. That's all I seem to get these days. I'm done!!!
Yea exactly why Iβve been single for so long
Didn't become single by choice, more till death do you part... But "stay single" by choice... So hear yah hon
I am turned off with dating/relationships but it has nothing to do with peoples views today.
Yes, it has. Don't need the problems.
Right.. To many bad people ruin a good thing
Nope. Everyone got their own fate😅
Whatever that means, okay
Nope...
That's good ππ
Well, I am seeing someone again so I would be remiss if I said Yes. :p ;)
Lol right π hope it works out for you
The 429th time is a charm, right? :p
It had better be right π€£
HA! Actually I have no idea. I stopped counting in my 30βs.
a girls expectations are ridiculously high and stupid in my opinion.
Yup. It's bullshit
Seems like it
Yes.
Hopefully things/people stop being so relationship ignorant and then maybe... You're still young, so maybe still some hope there... Me eh had mine, maybe that was it for me..
Yea right now i am concentrating on getting educational qualification so i can get nice high paying job
Nah I prefer it the way it is now
Okay
Yes, almost.
I find women today are far more superficial.