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EVERY adult - male or female - should be able to clean, do laundry, wash dishes, and cook meals. You needn't be a 5-star chef, but you ought to be able to make some basic meals and you should slowly expand your recipes. That's part of basic survival, and in my opinion it's ridiculous that anyone doesn't know these things (okay, if you have physical disabilities or something, you might get a pass).
I have no idea why so many women today seem to be PROUD of the fact that they can't cook or clean, but these are things that need to be done all the time for the rest of your life, and if you can't do it, you'll eventually find yourself in a bad situation - you can't count on other people doing these things for you forever. And given that most women want relationships with men, the fact that many women make virtually no effort to bring anything to the table (beyond sex) is crazy - and then when they complain that men only want them for sex, my mind boggles - because if sex is the only thing you bring to the table, when why else should he want you?
I cook, I clean, I do household maintenance, I do yard work, I fix cars, and I handle all of the technology. If I can do that, you (young folks in general) can cook a meal once in a while, or do the dishes, or put in a load of laundry.
Well said, and very much agreed that being self sufficient is necessary to living.
I've known people who can't cook, clean, or perform basic maintenance on the things they own (cars, for example). Some of them will take me up on my offer to do the work and teach them.
Most don't care, and later run into finance issues because they repeatedly replace what they don't repair, or they eat restaurant food multiple times a day, spending nearly four figures a month for a single person's food. It's not sustainable, but people try it anyway.
Slow down dadio sex might be what is wanted at the table or on it there are parents that don't see those skills as top priority so as long as they can get to point a to b at night without stepping on something or tripping they are good far as cooking goes you can buy a brand new microwave for 20 bucks so learn how to cook or read the directions? winner? Microwave every time if they want to stay around they will want to learn
He agreed with you and also doesn't understand why people can't cook. Reading comprehension bud.
Its not that people can't clean. The ones that dont just rather live like slobs cuz they are lazy.
I think every body men or women should learn cook and clean. Its important.
I really don’t think of them much at all. I can cook, I even enjoy it sometimes but the mother of my children had better be able to feed them properly. No take out, junk food, fast food. That’s for rare occasions healthy balanced not processed home cooked meals are a must, and if we are splitting that responsibility they have to take it serious. If it’s just dating, he’ll why not, but in today’s world the only reason I can choke down marriage is to have kids. And once those kids are born, it’s no longer about you. Every study agrees, children who are raised by both parents under a single roof wil have a much greater chance of raising mature stable well adapted successful children. Out overwhelming in its benefits. So much so that the 2 biggest common factors for predicting failure, criminality, and poorly social and adapted kids is lack of a father. Almost to a one, school shooters are boys raised with no father or positive male role model. And even more scary, long term use of Ridilin or other ADD, ADHD drugs. Generations of lost boys with no confidence, told thier maleness makes them bad, toxic , broken even though the things the feel feel right. No father to give you strict guidance and structure and help you work through your aggression and give you guidance for constructive uses of your aggression and energy, and to tell you it ok, butt your gonna grow hair on your palms. It’s critical. Then bust single moms don’t get it have no time to fix it si they drug thier boys with amphetamines during the critical development stages,, well that’s bull shit
itsabout those kids. Even if you hate. Each other, do the rightthing. Stay, work it out, if it’s separate bedrooms and roommate lives then great, your both thier , you are close and agree hopefully on the kids. You are mature and are willing to sacrifice you fantasy life so those children are raised with all the advantages you can give the. If you can’t, don’t marry, don’t have kids your not mature enough, don’t marry, theirs no reason to, and DONT COOK, NOBODY CARES
Anyone who still feels that women have to be purely housewives who purely cook and clean are so out of touch. It's the same opinion which is the reason men don't feel they can admit to loving cooking and/or cleaning. Everybody should be able to cook and clean enough to survive, men shouldn't say I need someone to do that, and the one's who do, to me tend to be people who's parents have pampered them. For me I love cooking, and I enjoy a clean house, so I also clean. If a woman couldn't cook, then it would only be an issue if she expected me to do it all, I don't mind something super easy, and the same with cleaning. If a woman at least attempts or makes some effort, that's enough, everyone has things they aren't amazing at, and it's not fair to judge someone on that. With this being said, said woman, could not suddenly turn around and say a man should do all the manual labour and outside chores, she should see that everything as a marriage is a partnership, and if she does, she's perfect wife material
Not very good at cooking? You'll probably have to learn. I mean, just as an adult fending for yourself. I'm not a great cook, but I know how to follow instructions. The tricky part is learning the quirks of different appliances. Some of the time, I accidentally burn stuff, because the oven runs a bit hotter, a bit faster, so I have to kind of play it by ear. But past that, I can follow instructions and it at least turns out fairly decent. I cook probably 5 meals a week. Most of it is quick and simple. Or something fancier will be made, and I freeze and reheat.
Not great at cleaning... well, you have to have something that will mesh with my cleaning style, at least. I can teach how I think and process. Now, if she wants to be the main breadwinner, and go off to work, and I work from home, AND can control the housework and cleaning, ok, as long as she's not too picky about her own style vs mine.
Now if she's constantly lazy about it then she has to step up a little bit. I'm not saying she has to handle it all. But help not make it too horrible.
I've lived with messy people, and I've cared for people who have gotten so overweight that they can't/won't wash properly and they (or the whole house) smells horrible... or they won't take care of their pets, and the place smells of cat feces and 6-month-old rotten food; if she's like that... then it's an immediate issue. If it's out of laziness, and it's gross, then it's an issue. She lets the dog poop where it pleases in the house... and won't train the dog or clean up after it... it's a BIG issue. But if she's broken her leg and we have 3 kids and are both pulling in a 60 hour work week and it gets a little crazy for the time being... I'm cool with a little mess from time to time.
I'd prefer that together we'd be able to do both of these when combined together as a couple (I can't cook for sh*t, but I don't mind doing housecleaning, as long as I don't become someone's nanny/maid), but it's no biggie if she can't cook or clean.
I can clean decently (mostly by just avoiding making a mess, rather than being messy and frequently cleaning up after it all the time) and I own a Swiffer mop, toilet cleaner gel and wand, toilet bowl pucks, a dustpan, bleach, etc, at my current apartment I live alone in. However, I can't cook, so having a girl who can is a BIG plus to me. Or at least, if she's willing to learn how to cook, while I clean, that's all good. But if I can only clean, and she can't of either one, it's a minor negative, but one that isn't too bad.
I kinda have prejudices against any people who can't clean. It can only mean they are lazy. Because it's no art, it's simple work. And what about cooking if someone can't cook completely it's the same. There is nothing complex about cooking some (simple) dishes. To cook good and with some aesthetics is something else, but that is not what you mean probably.
So I think people who are that lazy can't be considered as any good to live with tbh. And I had quite some experiences with such life... I know exactly what I'm talking. Especially as to cleaning. It's horrible.
Cleaning is both an art and a science. It seems to me that someone who has cleaned would know that.
@JoseLuisGonalez to me it's not art, not science. Yes, you need to have a working mind especially by things you do first time, but if you are that unexpected, well there is always internet. You don't need to invent tricks by yourself, you know, all that is to find on WWW. Maths and literature can be called art, physics can be called science. To not be able to clean if you are WILLING to put effort in doing it is plainly impossible. Well, people with mental conditions could have difficulties indeed. That's my opinion. If you want to convince me to have the opposite one, prove yours. If you don't want, well, we have different opinions, it happens.
Can’t cook? No problem, it needs skill & takes time to learn
Can’t clean? Are you freakin’ kidding me? Japanese kids can do that themselves even before they entered elementary high and I could clean the entire 2 levels house & cook for family when I was 6.. and I’m a man.
So, in my opinion, please learn how to do that. It’s basic in life, you can’t always depend on someone else to do basic things in life.
I know how to do that lol.
Thank you for sharing your opinion 💞
Phew~ glad to know that.
I thought it was you who can’t do those things 😂
Lol 😂
No one "can not clean.". You might not be very good at it, but all it takes is a go-getter attitude and asking someone for advice on how to do it correctly. Mostly it's just a matter of using the right cleaning agent, but a lot of them are versatile and can be used for more than one surface. (Just be sure you don't mix them together.). ... Look- I'm not great at cleaning myself, but I can get it done when I make an effort.
As far as cooking goes, that's kind of an art which is learned over time. But there are many simple things you can make just by following directions.
I don't look down on any woman for not being a good cook or for not being sure of what to do when cleaning. Everyone can learn, and people get better over time.
I also don't believe it's a woman's JOB to cook and clean. I personally think that that's everyone's responsibility.
Not my problem. Am a chef, so i cook and 70% of a cook's job is hygiene so cleaning is not a problem for me. Wife material !!! Am already married and she can cook and clean too, will it effect our marriage if she couldn't cook or clean? I don't think so.
@Silver158 That is where you com in handy! You teach her.
@Silver158 AKA Laziness. I understand your point
Every adult should be capable of at least some very basic cooking and cleaning for the sake of self-reliance. If you can't fry up a couple of eggs or a slab of meat, or sweep/vacuum the floor and do some laundry, you're probably not ready to maintain a marriage (or children).
If that's the case, then that's fine, but she better bring enough money to the table that we can afford to hire cleaning services and order takeout every night with our combined income.
She either needs to learn how to pull her weight or pay someone else to do it for her, because I'm not going to pick up her slack.
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