How are white women as relationship partners? What do they look for in relationships? Why does it seem like they aren’t looking for anything serious?

[Jack9949]

I just want a straightforward unbiased account of how white women are as relationship partners.

Honestly. I’m not looking to make generalizations here or shame anybody.

I know there are certain white women out there that just want to mess around. And I’ve got no problem with it as long as they were honest about their intentions.

It just pisses me off how I’ve had some falsely lead me on just so they could sugarcoat their own egos.

But I’ve still got to spend at least five more years of my life surrounded by them. And probably a lot longer.

So I hate to just be one of those whining incel white guys complaining they aren’t good enough.

I’ve had some serious trouble dating but I am also still very young.

I’ve had some great interactions with foreign women but that could just be because I’ve changed as a person without recognizing it. Or maybe they are just different.

But it still appears white women respond to me in the same way.

They just aren’t interested.

There’s just a lot I don’t understand.

The concept of relationships just confuses me in general.

It’s getting to the point where I just don’t give a f*ck.

It’s becoming way too stressful trying to land a serious relationship.

Nobody around me seems to value commitment.

At the same time I just don’t talk to people much at all anymore.

I’m kind of just idly sitting by as an outside observer watching relationships fail and crumble all around me.

I almost feel discouraged from trying. Because nobody seems to care.

It just frustrates me.

When will all this BS end?

Is it actually less prevalent in other cultures?

Or is there some way I can actually manage to survive in my own?

I hate the idea of being one of those guys who just waits around for five years until I can hopefully start dating foreigners.

Maybe it is time I just become a f*ckboy. I have no inclination to be one naturally though. But at the same time what do I have to lose? If the people around me don’t seem to be good for much else...

[JohnPrestwick]

What you really need is more friendship in your life. I know the pandemic has limited all of this, but things should soon get better, and you need to make the most of it when it does. If you have a healthy social life, dating opportunities should arise naturally.

It is important to avoid making assumptions. You should not assume that someone will act a certain way because of their gender, race, etc.. Making those kinds of assumptions and viewing people through stereotypes will make you look like a dick. Broadly speaking there are some things that women like or dislike more than men, but you can't assume those thongs apply to everyone.

Neither girlfriends nor sex are miracle cures for what's wrong with your social life. The better your social life is without a girlfriend, the better it will be with one.

[Jack9949]

I think that’s fair advice! I’m just not a extrovert guy tho

[JohnPrestwick]

Neither am I. I would rather have a meal with 3 friends than go to a party.

[Jack9949]

I don’t even like to eat out tho

[Cowboy6666]

I am south Asian and I have not yet dated any white girl
But willing to date if i find a suitable girl for me

[Jack9949]

A bit surprised you chose the name “Cowboy” lol. But where from?

[Billie_]

Buddy, I'm going to tell you what you're doing wrong when it comes to dating. Right of the bat you mentioned how you're one of those incel guys.

The problem is you are EXPECTING something from women. Look, women are human beings. You need to treat them the same way you treat your guy friends. We don't want you to sugarcoat your personality and dumb yourself down to talk to a woman. Talk to her and joke with her like you do with your boys. You have to stop expecting things from women, because women don't owe you shit just because you're nice to them.

Also, stop seeking female validation. You don't need a girlfriend. Learn to work through your insecurities before you start dating. Why are you so desperate?

[Jack9949]

Whoever said I was desperate? I literally only said I’d like to date but everyone around me seems to give up on them too easily. The second there’s conflict nobody ever tries to negotiate. I am quite happy with myself actually.

[Billie_]

If you're happy with yourself then why do you care if you can find a girlfriend or not? What value would a girlfriend add to your life?

[Jack9949]

Every once in a while when you encounter a problem its nice to have someone you can turn to. My parents don’t really empathize with me much at all.

[Billie_]

You don't need a girlfriend for that. You can make close friends.

[Jack9949]

That is certainly true. However I wouldn’t ever hug a guy friend. And sometimes that’s exactly what I need when everything is going down the tubes

[Jack9949]

Its not all the time I get upset about things but maybe once every couple weeks or so. Or momentarily at a certain time of day

[Billie_]

If you want a girlfriend so bad; Women are humans first, women second. If you want my genuine advice I'll explain.

When I met my current boyfriend on tinder, you wanna know what the first conversation we had was about? It was about how big the tallest man in the worlds penis would be. It was such a ridiculous and hilarious conversation and we were joking with each other right from the start. It wasn't til a few weeks later he admitted he was into me and there was mutual attraction so we gave it a shot.

Similar thing happened with my ex. He sent me these weird shitty memes he'd made of himself and we started laughing and joking around, soon started dating.

So my advice is BE YOURSELF. Don't talk to women like they're these soft precious creatures, treat them like a regular person, and before you know it you will find yourself with a girlfriend. Good luck!

[Jack9949]

I mean it might just be that the social stigma that comes with “being myself” just isn’t attractive to them. Like for instance to a Latin girl I’m just some shy cute American guy trying to speak Spanish but to say the average white girl I’m just a boring guy that doesn’t say much 😂 lol.

[Jack9949]

I’m really not into those types of conversations tho. They just don’t have any appeal to me.

[Billie_]

I can assure you, every country outside of America hates American people. So if you do find a foreign lady it is because of your stereotypes of being "Uneducated and rich" that they will date you. If you want a genuine relationship date one of your own.

[Jack9949]

Those two don’t go together. And obviously you are speaking from the perspective of a European. We still take in the most immigrants of anybody

[Billie_]

That is how other people view your country whether you like it or not. American stereotypes are "Loud, arrogant, dumb, rich and selfish." Look it up if you don't believe me.

[Jack9949]

That is so false. I only hear that rhetoric from Europe and other developed countries

[Billie_]

Its not just europeans that think that buddy. just ask the Mexicans what they think of you.

[Jack9949]

They come here. By the millions

[williael]

I have a couple of questions before I can give an opinion.
1. Why are you stuck with these chicks for 5 years? Are you in jail?
2. What do you mean when you say that the concept of a relationship confuses you? Do you mean that you don't know what relationships are, or that you don't know what you personally want out of a relationship?

[Jack9949]

1) I’d rather explore other options because I’m unhappy with the ones I currently have available. 2) I don’t know what other people EXPECT from a relationship. It seems that most people just don’t value them very much.

[williael]

This is what I was referring to:
"But I’ve still got to spend at least five more years of my life surrounded by them. And probably a lot longer."
Why are you looking at 5 years of being stuck "surrounded" by these people? I mean, what circumstances require this?

[Jack9949]

I have to study in the United States. My parents aren’t “rich” enough for out of state

[williael]

My opinion: At age 19 and stuck in one place, you have not been exposed to enough people or enough different kinds of people to draw these conclusions. There are fantastic people of every race, and there are nasty users of every race. You met some nice foreigners, right? You can't draw broad conclusions about them either. You haven't met not-so-nice foreigners who use people. You can't logically draw conclusions from the small group surrounding you.

If you are in a big store filled with nothing but shelf after shelf of moldy bread, and you've never been in any other store, you will draw the conclusion that "all bread is nasty and makes people sick," and "why bother baking it in the first place?"

Look up the fable about "the Blind Men and the Elephant" to illustrate what I mean.

You are in a place with a negative group of people, and they have gotten inside your head to the point that you're considering joining them. RESIST! And know that the people you know and see on a regular basis are a very small fraction of the human race, and that they can only function in their own little society.
Please don't base your views of relationships on a sample of messed-up, shallow people. Deep down, you already that these relationships are abnormal and lacking, and your ability to see that should give you some hope about yourself! The fact that you're unhappy with your current situation shows that you actually believe something different and better exists sonewhere. You're not wrong.

[Jack9949]

“You are in a place with a negative group of people”. I would really hope that’s the case. I’m from Massachusetts so hopefully white girls in Maine are a bit different.

[williael]

😊I am a white woman, and I wouldn't fit in in Massachusetts! Take care and good luck!

[ct1243]

BW and WM have the highest marriage rate. I ace yet to see one successful IR marriage or relationship consisting of BM and WW or Non BW. Your women are too busy chasing BM. They can have them truthfully because a lot of BW have moved on. Both are selfish and made for each other.

[Jack9949]

It does appear that way. But I really don’t want to give up on dating completely for the next five years. Maybe there’s still hope somewhere

[ct1243]

Open of your dating options or be hopeful that there are some WW who desire WM.

[modelUN242]

Either try white girls from other countries or outside of your race. Have you tried white women in Conservative or Christian circles? And I have noticed that white women are becoming more degenerate in the West, but so is other races. And most people are attracted to their own race so it's normal that you feel this way that you can't find someone. I don't think it's worth being a f*ckboy because you will regret it when you're older and become broken.

Work on yourself physically and mentally. Physically because women are attracted to good-looking guys, just a fact, and vice versa. And mentally because, the wrong type of woman can leech onto low confidence.

[Jack9949]

Probably a good idea lol

[Anonymous]

What's the difference between us and non-white women?

[Jack9949]

Everything. It seems like.

[Opinion Owner]

You're being unfair. We share the same country and culture, skin color is the only difference between us and girls of other races.

[Jack9949]

I don't know. Its just women of other races seem to not divorce us as much. I know you probably take your shit seriously. But I see a lot of white women giving up so easily nowadays.

[Opinion Owner]

Has it ever occurred to you that we "give it up easily" because we deal with with immature/toxic men who play with our feelings, cheat on us, use us and then tell us that "they're not ready for a relationship rn"?

Black female divorce rates are the highest ones in the U. S. White female and hispanic divorce rates are about the same. Asian-Americans have the lowest divorce rates, but it's growing as they become more assimilated. See a cultural pattern now?

You're barking up the wrong tree, we white women didn't create this culture of hedonism and nihilism.

[Jack9949]

Well. I have decent guy friends who have gotten dumped and cheated on for the dumbest reasons.

[Opinion Owner]

All my girl friends (the bad and the good ones) and I have gotten dumped and cheated on by our exes. The dating life is not a cakewalk for us either.

[Jack9949]

Ahh ok. I am sorry to hear that.

[Jack9949]

It goes both ways I guess. White guys aren’t much better apparently.

[Coulis]

There are all kinds of whote women. You need to pick a demographic of white women then maybe you can get some help.

[Jack9949]

Well tell me what you mean by that? I’m a schoolkid and it seems like most white women don’t want any relationship conflict. I see them pulling the plug on all my good and decent guy friends all the timw

[Coulis]

Yiu have rich white girls from the suburbs, poor white girls from the country. White girls who only know otjer white peple. White girls who are exposed to mnay different cultures. Religious. Liberal. I mean...

[Jack9949]

Ahh ok. “Rich white girls from the suburbs” is probably the best characterization of the ones I’m dealing with.

[Jack9949]

They tend to be pretty liberal and high maintenance from what I’ve heard through friends

[Coulis]

Ok well. I have dealt with this type a lot and they know that their promiscuity will be viewed as being young and "sewing their wild oats". As a young black girl, if I actes in this way I would have been labelled and harshly. A lot of them have fetishes for whatever their parents would most behorrified about them bringing home and want to "have fun". I remember when I was a lifeguard, I had a colleague who was a very rich white girl that drove an 850i BMW to work (her parents). She flat out said she's gonna marry rich (because that's her social eschalon) and have affairs. No shame and dead serious. She was already pretty whorish. When everything is handed to you and you get a pass in life no matter what, you start thrill seeking.

[Jack9949]

Yeah its really bad! Like I try extra hard to stay away from those types. I’ve met some black women who were pretty nice people though! 😃

[Jess1812]

You want me to tell you how a whole demographic acts? It's a person to person thing.

[Jack9949]

Gotcha. But overall how would you characterize them?

[Jess1812]

Did i stutter?

[Jack9949]

Maybe

[Anonymous]

My boyfriend says he prefers white women because black women are too hard to deal with.

[Jack9949]

I haven’t had regular exposure to black women lol

[Coulis]

So a post about white women still becomes about dragging black women. On anonymous no less. Man oh man. We can never catch a break.

[Jack9949]

@Coulis Ikr. Like everyone hates on black women these days. Including black men.

[Coulis]

Personally, I find mostly white people constantly finding away to say why black women are bad, no good enough ugly. Loud because no other group of women is loud but us. My father is black and he has always loved black women so... Sadly, a lot of black men have internalised the white nareative of black women's supposed inferiority and unfeminineness as compared to the small nosed thin lipped small bum white woman.

[Opinion Owner]

@Coulis I guess this is what he means.

[Coulis]

What. Because I called you out on your comment. Lol ok.

[Opinion Owner]

@Coulis a good example is Serena Williams verbally abusing, harrassing and bullying that umpire

[Coulis]

So an athlete in a moment of rage is now the measure of all black women's disposition. If you want to use that I can use coke head John McEnroe's notorious behaviour towards refs to judge white men as angry and entitled.

[Opinion Owner]

@Coulis yes but he was punished while Serena's shitty behaviour was enabled.

[Coulis]

And that makes black women undateable because...

[Opinion Owner]

@Coulis you see you felt the need to " call me out" for basically repeating what my boyfriend has told me.

[Coulis]

Im calling you out because the post has to do with white women and you felt the need to mention black women on anonymous.

[Opinion Owner]

@Coulis exactly you felt the need to " call me out" for basically repeating what my boyfriend has told me thus proving what my boyfriend who is black has told me about black women.

[Jack9949]

Well you just proved my point there. Even black men are shitting on black women nowadays.

[Opinion Owner]

This true. Apperently to difficult to be with.

[Coulis]

She thinks my initial reply was proof as to why black women are difficult. Also, tennis players should be respectful even if they don't like the ref's call.

[Jack9949]

@Coulis I don’t actually have anything against black women by the way. I’ve come to realize the stereotypes aren’t true at least half the time.

[Coulis]

Oh your boyfriend is black. That's nice.

[Jack9949]

@Coulis I mean I don’t have an issue with it. Just two shallow people dating eachother.

[Coulis]

Judge a person based on their character. Sadly black women are usually judged on perception aren't given a chance. Just find someone who treats you well. Has similar values and you can communicate with them. White black blue or green. 🤗

[Jack9949]

@Coulis I agree. I mean I’m open to all options but white women have kinda given me a bad impression as of late

[Opinion Owner]

Well then stop barbecuing in the park

[ct1243]

Is your boyfriend black? Most likely because BM are chasing WW. We know it’s a fetish. The only reason why they say that is because a BW won’t tolerate his bs and he figures WW are easy.

[ct1243]

Jack9949 BM have been shitting on BW for decades it’s nothing new ; maybe now the trash can take itself to the garbage

[ct1243]

Your boyfriend is a colorist like all BM including DSBM. LOL thank you for taking BM because BW are free

[Jack9949]

@ct1243 I don’t feel like giving up just yet. Maybe there are still some good white women out there. But not the ones around me. They aren’t right for me.