Do older women not date younger men because they are afraid of being judged or for other reasons?

[chriscdi]

[Anonymous]

I had a date with an older woman about 4 years ago. She was attractive, very healthy and active but in her early 80's. At dinner, she confessed that she had not had sex in many years and the idea of doing that again scared her. In other words, she was afraid that I would fuck her to death.

[t-8900]

I think a lot of older single women are looking for a guy with $ to keep them secure. I don't agree with it in current year but it is what it is. Women are quickly becoming the breadwinners and with that means that men are just in general going to earn less money. Women are biologically built to want a better provider for obvious reasons. But its one of those things they have to get over using rational to overcome it. Sadly society doesn't champion "good men" as men with a good heart, or a man who is loyal or protective. It's usually a 6'+, 6 figure +, 6 pack guy that's the "good guy". Never mind the fact he's got 3 kids out of wedlock that he never sees and dodges child support payments... but yeah isn't life just swell?

[chriscdi]

That sucks lol

[This_Is_My_Opinion8]

Again where do you get your information?
"Women are biologically built to want a better provider for obvious reasons." Where did you read this?

[t-8900]

@This_Is_My_Opinion8 I actually pity you dude. If this isn't common knowledge to you then go look it up. Women like security. You think we evolved to have women fending for themselves while they're pregnant or raising kids? Use some common sense please.

[This_Is_My_Opinion8]

@t-8900 yes they do like security. Everyone does. But that is not what you said. You said they are biologically programed to search providers which is false.
When we were caveman women actually got most of the food. Men hunted for meat, which was scarce at the time, and women fruit, vegetables and others. They are used to provide since the dawn of time.
Even today, 1/3 of the relationships the women makes more money and most college graduates are girls. Who statistically make more money than their male counterparts when they leave college.
What you have is the mindset of a time when women were literally forbidden to work. And you somehow assume that just because they couldn't means that they didn't want to. Two completely different things.

[t-8900]

@This_Is_My_Opinion8 no that's false. That was only in certain parts of the world. There was plenty of time in our history where we were forced on an all meat diet.

[This_Is_My_Opinion8]

@t-8900 yes by the time we stopped being nomads and began to stay in one place. Welcome to the bronze age. The time we became more advanced and human population grew. Sadly with it also came the time when wars began between humans. Since men were more fit to war women were forced to stay home and no longer be providers. After that women began to be seen as weak and feeble. Men took over and it lasted until not long ago.
Not that long ago women couldn't open a bank account with a man. A husband beating his wife was a constitutional right. Etc.
Don't take those days as examples as what women want.

[t-8900]

@This_Is_My_Opinion8 depends on the part of the world, again. There have been many cultures that venerated women... like the celts. by the way what happened to them? Last I checked they had gotten their asses kicked by pretty much everyone. Egyptians had females in charge too. Egypt lost it's autonomy under a woman. Boudica led her people to be slaughtered by Romans. Coincidence? Maybe...

Anyways what women "want" and what they look for are not always the same thing. Case in point the "bad boy" phase... which lets be honest usually only ends because she realizes all too late he's not sticking around. He tends to be a bigger guy, in excellent shape, strong, confident, all traits of a person who can protect her. Most women want a man taller than them too. Again another trait of someone who at least in theory can protect her. A guy making more money is a better provider. The hottest women tend to gravitate towards the richer high end men in general. Lets not pretend otherwise. Just because our culture has evolved doesn't mean that the biology of humans has changed enough to keep up. Elon Musk, Jordan Peterson, Ben Shapiro, Tucker Carlson, rather successful individuals have voiced this concern that we are moving too fast to keep pace on a biological level.

[This_Is_My_Opinion8]

Russian biggest and best leader was a woman. The Persians didn't venerated women and they also got their ass kicked by everyone. The pirate, yes pirate, who ruled over the biggest pirate fleet ever was a woman. Many viking warlords were women.
The first lost of the Nazi army was against Russia. Outside of the already existing army, Stalin asked the Russians to enlist to help them fight the Germans. Russian men and women volunteered to that call at nearly the same rate. Volunteer! And they were the first Nazi lost.

[This_Is_My_Opinion8]

@t-8900 about the bad boy phase. Aside from girls with daddy issues or addicted to toxic relationships girls grow out of the bad boy phase early. After that to an intelligent girl bad boys are just an easy fuck. Just like sluts are for us.
The hottest women gravitate to the richest men? The biggest gold diggers you mean. While whores are easy to find around wealthy men, that's what they are whores. You really think that only they are beautiful? That women who actually have ambition and education aren't hot? You need to take a better look around my friend.

[t-8900]

@This_Is_My_Opinion8 the highly educated women tend to be older in my experience. Too busy for work to take care of their skin, and bodies. Go look at the successful IG models they go for the wealth and they tend to be the most attractive girls you'll find. Also why do you think girls have daddy issues to begin with? And what do you describe as a "whore".

[This_Is_My_Opinion8]

@t-8900 at 23 you can already have a masters degree. In fact that is normal, they get at uni at 18, 5 years to graduate. No need to be old.
Most models date other models not old men with money. While it does happen do you think that most women in Victoria secret, who make a LOT of money need or want a wrinkle old man?
Look at Dan Bilzelian or whatever is name is. Always surrounded by tons of girls. All of them being paid to be there. Whores.

[t-8900]

@This_Is_My_Opinion8 you should look up the studies on Gorillas where once they introduced them to currency the females would give their bodies up for more of the currency to buy snacks with. So yes, they love resources.

[This_Is_My_Opinion8]

You mean the apes that drink their own piss? If you want to give an example of animals close to us the closest animal to humans in DNA are the bonobos. And they live in a matriarchy so you probably don't want to use animals as an argument here.
Humans are far to much evolved from other animals to make a direct comparison. Some can be done sure, but with very clear limitations.

[t-8900]

@This_Is_My_Opinion8 were that true than why are they so promiscuous and needing abortion when they can't take care of the kids? If we're so advanced then people would be able to wait till marriage for sex. bonobos are still a type of Chimp in the same way that we have different races and nationalities but are all still human. we had matriarch societies, they just never lasted the ages.

[This_Is_My_Opinion8]

@t-8900 romans loved sex. Christians didn't for some reason and sex stopped being something natural to be considered shameful outside of marriage.
Sex is good and isn't a big deal. Is just sex. Why should we wait to have it before we are married?
Actually some tribes in Africa still live in a matriarchal society. Tribes that are older than the US.

[t-8900]

@This_Is_My_Opinion8 yes and tell me if our Patriarchal societies from the west decided to go to war with those tribes tomorrow what would happen to those tribes? Christians never said they hate sex we are just supposed to refrain from it until marriage. Once married you can do all the crazy shit you want... with your wife. And it says that if your wife wants sex you give it to her and if you want sex she gives it to you. If it's just sex you're okay with living a swinger life, wife swapping, having open relationships while married?

[This_Is_My_Opinion8]

Is that the worth of a society? It's war prowess? The Nazis were amazing in the art of war. They were also great engineers.

I believe in freedom of choice. Humans are far to different from each other to put us all in the same box. I am married. But I had sex with other people before her. Just like she had sex with other guys before she met me. So what? Neither of us has any STD and neither of us has babies yet. Condom and the pill work wonders.

[t-8900]

@This_Is_My_Opinion8 You dont know if she had dudes raw dogging her and finishing inside her or in her mouth but your locking lips with that. For me that's gross brother. And you'll never know if she's ever thinking about the other guys sometimes when you're inside of her. Shit like that just bothers me. As far as military prowess goes, in a way yes. We are here today, others are not because of strength and prowess. Ireland was very matriarchal at one point but it changed when it got invaded.

[This_Is_My_Opinion8]

And I had my face buried in pussies other than hers before I even meet her. She will never know of I am imagining another girls tits while I am grabbing hers. This goes both ways. And if I expect her to be fine with it, why shouldn't I?
While the capacity to defend is valuable to a country, your military is in no way shape or form a direct representation of how well you country works, how happy the people are, how high economic indexes are, etc.

[t-8900]

@This_Is_My_Opinion8 I agree on what you said about society. However throughout our history it's always been "might makes right" and in many ways that's still very much the case. Which is why so many nations started building up Nuclear Arsenals. as far as what she's thinking that's true but I think women are far more emotional creatures. I think if she's thinking about another guy she probably wants him over you and also probably doesn't really love you so much as is with you out of necessity. I would not be happy in such a relationship.

[This_Is_My_Opinion8]

Might makes right? Sure history is written by the victors, but specialy today we can say that just because a military is strong doesn't mean the rest of the country is a role model.
In an argument here once a guy challenged me to find a study that said clearly that women are more emotional. I thought I would find one within 5 min on google. Didn't find a single one. All I found said we are as emotional as they are, we simply react differently. Women with anxiety and we with agression. I give the same challenge now, give me a study that clealy states that women are more emotional. No cosmopolitan or NY times crap. An actual study.

[t-8900]

Friend you are free to look it up yourself.

[This_Is_My_Opinion8]

I tried! Didn't find

[Apulu_02]

Nah. They don't date younger boys as girls mental age is more than their biological age. Like my biological age is 13 but mental age is 15. For boys their biological and mental age is most probably the same. Even the cases of seeing a couple of same age is lower than a certain age gap (where girl is the smaller one). For me I think the boys or my class are immature for these reasons.

[chriscdi]

That all depends, I know you more mature than most people my age, I hit the real world at 14 so it gave me plenty of time to mature, I think maturity is all based on experience

[Yyyyu]

Believe me not true. People at top of my class usually were boys/ men if they are not developed than how are they able to get better grades? Younger person won't be able to. It is lies men who like younger women say.

[Kartusha]

They find older men more attractive. I found older men, especially celebrities always more attractive than younger ones. Also men generally find younger women more attractive so women also feel more confident. Men can really get better looking by age but women get often less attractive from men's point of view. I feel I get along much better with older guys.

[Yyyyu]

I find guys around my age most attractive so? I actually think that most women don't like them

[Yyyyu]

How men get more attractive? Testosterone level drop after 30 they start losing their hair and become bald and are more prone to gain weight and get erectile dysfunction

[Yyyyu]

and also wrinkles

[Kartusha]

@Yyyyu Well it really depends at what you see. Female with gray hair and wrinkles is less desirable than men with gray hair and wrinkles. Some women find gray hair on men sexy while most men don't find it sexy when woman has them. Also unhealthy habits will show on woman's face faster. I personally find men around age 25 most attractive. I don't want to date older man over 40 for many reasons (men's fertility issues, illnesses, lower energy) but if I date man in his mid 20s there is high chance he will be attractive for long time.

[Yyyyu]

So you like slightly older men. Older sound like in 30s or 40s

[JustAnj]

I don't find young men attractive due to their lacking in immaturity and I cringe at the thought of being a possible mother to many as well as the inability of some young men to understand growth.

Also I am not the party type so this is big reason too.

It also creeps the shit out of me when boys check me out and look at me in a inappropriate manner. I tend to attract a lot of young men still till this day I don't understand why.

I also attract men my age and older but it seems more prominent with young men, I assume it's simply their hormones at play and the taboo of being with a older woman.

[JustAnj]

Correction: I meant lacking in *maturity* not *immaturity*.

[Mofunfour20]

Yes, they know they can't compete with a younger woman. Most men are attracted to women in their prime, older women know this because they were once young. I always laugh when they go out of their way to say "excuses me" or bump into me when im not even in their way. Female desperation is hilarious, they always act so goofy 🤣😂🤣

[Yyyyu]

Women can get matches in tinder/ bumble they don't need to do it

[GoldenAxer]

Usually, when I tried to flirt with older women and they constantly played back at me, I got the sense like I'm too immature and troublesome. Like maybe they had a strong physical attraction to me but they were too wise and experienced to date me.

[GoldenAxer]

They knew I was going to be a nightmare for them at some point before I realized it.

[GoldenAxer]

That said, I think the same reasons they got so flirty and attracted to me in the first place was for the same reasons they couldn't date me. They knew I was immature and trouble, and I think that was appealing for them, but simultaneously they were too wise to cave in.

[GoldenAxer]

I got a few cases though where I was in my early 20s and I think I was winning over a very beautiful older woman like in her late 40s (bartender). And one of those times involved her showing me her hands when there were no other customers, and holding mine. And I think she was trying to show me how her hands were calloused from bartending and all wrinkly and veiny, but I found that attractive rather than ugly and I think it confused her... like maybe she was expecting me to be like, "Eww!" Then we even kissed one time but she started talking about things that seemed weird to me then but not now like running her business and trying to take care of her daughter and whatnot.

[GoldenAxer]

I wasn't mature enough to really know what the package entails to take care of her and her daughter. All I got was the basic attraction and a bullheaded way of expressing it.

[Rob596]

All my girlfriends have been older. I even dated a woman who was going through a divorce when I was 19. I dated my manager too behind closed doors. Yeah, they always told me that I’m too young. But after a while of going on walks, they seemed to forget. And stopped saying that. I grew up with five older sisters and brothers. So I was used to talking to adults my whole life. And honestly, I hate playing games that most younger women play, so it works out.

[Avicenna]

Nah, it's because they just want to have fun with them. They're usually too immature for much older women.

[Gwenhwyfar]

Some do date younger men. Others think they’re immature.

[chriscdi]

Fair enough

[kaylealealea]

i wouldn't mind dating a younger guy as long as he has maturity as boys develop later

[Yyyyu]

Lol boys don't develop later. Literally most people at top of my class are boys

[kaylealealea]

@Yyyyu i meant the maturity level, it's been scientifically proven.

[cloudspy]

How old is older women to you? I would not be with someone who could be my son. Would creep me out.

[MountAverage]

Most older women simply don't feel attracted to younger men.

[Anonymous]

I think I would be afraid of being judged by family, friends, and society if he was a lot younger than me. But I would mind dating a younger guy if we had that special connection.

[Opinion Owner]

Wouldn’t mind*

[xf25x]

I feel like women also have this insecurity beat into them that when we think something is too good we think we don't deserve it. So older women may have that perspective on younger men

[This_Is_My_Opinion8]

Statistically speaking after 39 women start preferring the appearance of younger men.

[Anonymous]

I think yes. Biologically young men in their mid 20s are in their prime time. I know a lot oldee women who like younger looking guys. Adult young guys are hot

[Anonymous]

No. Most older woman don’t have the insecurities of younger people. It would be personal beliefs or just not attracted.

[bamesjond0069]

For many women they like someone more mature and experienced than themselves. This would typically not include younger men.

[Yyyyu]

I used to like one 19 year old through

[Jewelove]

I don't mind younger men. They're fun and don't take life so seriously!

[Jersey2]

Well, because life gets hard and expensive… because of bitches and kids.

[Anonymous]

Attraction. Do you like older?

[chriscdi]

Yea.

[anniisa97]

How much older?

[chriscdi]

Like in their 30s

[TheAfrikan]

Some do fear to be judged and others are too brave and ready to go for It.

[humpbackjack]

I almost always messed with older women

[Vikkrram]

Vice Versa Also

[GlovewithLove]

Old women date young men all the time.

[Anonymous]

I’d date 18 y/o and above

[Opinion Owner]

for legal reasons

[Papabubbles]

No especially if a female teacher with a student.

[Jace_Belleren]

I know woman who prefer to date younger men

[jimmy2]

Cougars

[Anonymous]

Yes!

[Twalli]

Tradition