Do women who have their own money and education intimate men?

[kc_4308]

I’m more so talking about women who are single and doing it alone without a man..

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+1 y

Yes or no and why? Some of us choose to do it alone without a relationship with a man.. ( we don’t want a relationship with a man )..

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+1 y

I clearly said women are who single and don’t want relationships this has nothing to do with being independent ( no where in this post did I say about women chanting we don’t need men) want and need are 2 things.

[genericname85]

Why is it always "intimidation" that women think of when they ask this sort of questions? It's like there's a weird attempt of invalidating or downplaying a guys feelings by calling it something that has a negative connotation? aren't there other reasons for people not showing interest as much than "intimidation"? What is supposed to "intimidate" a man in a woman that makes money and has an education? I mean a grizzly is intimidating. Or a woman that points a gun at ones head. That's "intimidating"... I don't get this choice of words.

[kc_4308]

It’s a question why do you men have to look at stuff so negatively

[kc_4308]

I don’t get it now and no it’s not a down play..

[genericname85]

What am I looking at negatively? I don't get what is supposed to be intimidating about what you described at all. And i see many women use that word in this sort of question and i just don't get it.

More traditional or conservative men want to be a provider. If a woman can provide more than he does, he just can't feel like he fulfills the provider role, which will make it less likely for that type of guy to show interest. Where's the intimidation supposed to be there? Can you explain?

[kc_4308]

I’m not most women so I don't know how these men see these questions.. I’m asking in regards to a single woman who is successful are on.. with no intentions of dating.. I wonder how men feel about that

[genericname85]

See that's how I understand that question. You wanna know how men feel about successful women with no interest in dating. Asking like that is neutral. And just to answer that quickly: men don't give a fuck about those girls, cause those girls are just uninteresting.

Anyway: you choose to ask if men are intimidated by that. Why is that? What is intimidating about that? Like what is the reason for asking that, i wanna understand. There has to be a thought process that made you choose that particular word right?

[kc_4308]

Most men have an issue with women who remain single and those who are successful with the notion we are feminist and don’t want men when it’s not the case.. my comments prove that

[genericname85]

Ok. I don't see the connection between that and intimidation. Like sure men that are looking to date a girl will not be very interested in the type of girl you described. Why? Obviously cause she's not an option. Where's the intimidation there? I still don't get it.

[kc_4308]

My comments prove what I’m talking about - it’s not about her being an option the only woman on the board proved that about her husband and you can’t see it TF

[genericname85]

Proof what? I didn't ask for a proof of anything xD. I'm asking you what intimidation you mean. I'm asking why you chose that word.

[kc_4308]

I’m tired of explaining myself

[genericname85]

Well if people don't understand you, they don't give good answers... Maybe that's why you're struggling with this question. People don't understand die question. That causes confusion, aggressive behavior and overall a bad time for everyone involved.

[kc_4308]

You men jump to any and every conclusion

[bamesjond0069]

Not intimidate. Its just not attractive. My girlfriend was a flunkie almost didn't pass HS... no college but i chose her... she cooks and cleans and is sweet asf and young. Other girls made significant money and had degrees but who going to cook clean and suck my dick all the time when they busy working and going to school? Yeah no thanks.

[TrueConfection]

I think some do. Going just by my own experience, my husband prefers that I don't work. My kids are in school and I took a pt job. It became a huge source of stress and arguing. I think he saw it as a personal attack on his ability to provide?

[kc_4308]

😬 I feel for you God forbid something happens to him does he have money put back to take care of you and the kids? See this is why my life is established- without a man. It may make him feel like he can’t provide - I’m the type of woman who works and makes her own money.. it’s always been this way ( without a husband) .. what you make doesn’t equal to what he brings in.

[kc_4308]

I honestly think some men use marriage as a way to slave a woman.. marriage shouldn’t be like that.. So these women rely on men hand and foot.. if I were married a part time job would be ok … it doesn’t take away his power or capability as a husband

[kc_4308]

Unless he’s traditional traditional

[TrueConfection]

I was working for a big corporation when I met him. He wanted me to quit my job and move in with him. When I refused, he proposed.

Fast forward to my kids being old enough for me to work pt. That went over like a ton of bricks for a multitude of reasons.

My husband is an excellent provider and he likes being in control. We're both educated. Some of his reasons for me to stay home are valid and some are not. Our family life runs a lot smoother with me managing the household. Everything gets done, less stress on everyone. Splitting my time between my family and what my husband refers to as my "hobby" isn't ideal. I do it anyway because I am still my own person. I need to fulfill a part of me that likes a little independence and just getting out of the house. The money is just a bonus.

We're still married! lol

[kc_4308]

Oh wow … I wouldn’t have left my job unless it’s a strain on the family life.. he provides that’s good. Girl I like my freedom

[kc_4308]

I feel like traveling right now

[kc_4308]

Lol 😂

[TrueConfection]

It's not the freedom. It's something else. I don't know if I can sum it up in one word. It's maybe having more pupose than the usual daily tasks. I also don't like to feel like I can end up in the gutter (although he never said anything like that). I like leaving the house, being able to buy something without feeling like I'm taking advantage of his income, and having a sense of purpose other than housewife and mother. I guess it's my own pride vs his pride? I don't know. I'm 45 and still haven't figured it out.

[kc_4308]

I’m talking about my freedom been single over 8 years.. for you.. I can understand.. you want your own money without him. Did you explain this to him?

[TrueConfection]

But you can share that freedom with someone. It's a lot of fun.

Nope, I have not. I don't make much. That would hit a nerve and would be a losing argument for me.

[kc_4308]

I don’t want to give up my freedom I don’t want a relationship with anyone.. I stopped dating in 2014 too stressful/ been through enough in the dating world

[kc_4308]

Your marriage is about control rather than him being understanding and compromising

[kc_4308]

The kids are school aged he works - why can’t you do something for you? It’s crazy

[TrueConfection]

I can understand. I've been married too long to relate, but I remember saying I would never go through the dating life again.

[kc_4308]

I’m not why I stopped dating 8 years ago

[TrueConfection]

Like I said, some reasons are valid and some are not. I was too busy to go food shopping and he ended up picking up take-out for everyone. It's kind of a pain for everyone when I'm thinking about myself.

[kc_4308]

Can you get a manicure do something for you?

[TrueConfection]

Yes, and I don't feel like I'm spending his money to get one. He doesn't complain about my maintenance. He likes it.

[kc_4308]

Explain to him how work makes you feel good and confident as a woman in the event God forbid something happens to him you and the children will be ok

[Hispanic-Cool-Guy]

The deeply insecure beta male male will be hurt by it since it makes her depressed and miserable if a woman doesn't need him to survive. Poor baby. 😪

[Hispanic-Cool-Guy]

*makes him

[kc_4308]

Right lol what’s going on now in this thread

[SomeGuyCalledTom]

It's a moot question since women don't generally "date down" economically or socially. But no, men don't care about a woman's financials nearly as much as women care about a man's career.

[Zygum]

Rich women, with high educational status, look for high profile men for relationship, they hate ordinary men

[kc_4308]

I agree

[hahahmm]

Absolutely not. If a woman acts masculine it tends to repulse most guys - in proportion to how masculine she's trying to be. But that's not really about her money/degree. It's just a character trait of 2nd wave feminists. It's a spectrum from "little" to "way too much" and all of these women are on the spectrum.

[kc_4308]

I’m not interested in dating does that make me a feminist? Another problem you men created in your head.

[kc_4308]

Another thought rather

[hahahmm]

"I’m not interested in dating does that make me a feminist?" Being single in and of itself isn't acting masculine so not what I was talking about. Being aggressive or rude to a man (without reasonable provocation) is. You write, "Another problem[/thought] you men created in your head." -- You're trying to dismiss men's ideas/preferences. That is definitely a feminist thing to do. Feminists believe the world should all be about what they want and zero about what a man wants.

[kc_4308]

No you concluded any woman who chooses to be single and acts masculine is a feminist and that’s not the case

[hahahmm]

What I actually said is clearly in my posts and not exactly what you claim about it. I was very specific in my language because words matter to me. I talked about a spectrum. I talked about "a character trait of 2nd wave feminists".

[zagor]

No, not in the least. I want an intelligent, educated woman.

[ChiPaPa]

Not at all. If they don't want a relationship with men, all the power to them.

[backdoorman]

No, not really. In most cases it has much more to do with those women's personality and attitudes, but it's easier for them to blame it on intimidation, thereby putting the "blame" on men, than it is to face the fact they they themselves are the problem.

[kc_4308]

I have no ideal what you’re talking about

[backdoorman]

That's not surprising.

[kc_4308]

Women who are single and don’t want relationships that’s their business. You’re feeding into whatever feminist BS you created in your head.

[backdoorman]

Of course it's their business. I never said anything to the contrary. But your point is irrelevant in this context.

The vast majority of men have no problem with women who are financially and professionally successful and have their lives together, IF they have a good personality and know how to treat a man. But the fact is many women have personality issues and attitude problems toward men and/or they don't know how to treat a man, and those of them who are financially successful often blame their failures with men on "intimidation" when that isn't really the case at all. But it's easier to think that than to face the reality of the situation.

[kc_4308]

No you just contradicted yourself I didn’t even mention feminism , but you and other men did. You men are glued on feminism.. I didn’t even mention this as a post

[kc_4308]

This is how I you let feminism over power your mindset.. there’s nothing wrong with a woman who makes her own money and is educated.. I didn’t even mention a relationship with a man and her being independent..

[backdoorman]

What? You seem stuck on some terms and ideas I never mentioned. I never once mentioned feminism, nor did I ever say there is anything wrong with independent women. You said those things, not me. Please stop putting words in my mouth.

My point was that when women are unable to have much success with men, they often blame it on "intimidation" when that is usually not the problem. Nothing to do with feminism and nothing to do with a woman being independent.

[kc_4308]

I asked the question are men intimidated by women’s success 🙄

[backdoorman]

Yep, and I answered it. But you haven't explained why you keep trying to twist what I said and put words in my mouth.

[kc_4308]

I’m not conferring to YOU.. there are other men on the board

[backdoorman]

Thank you for correcting yourself.

[kc_4308]

You’re welcome 😀

[kc_4308]

I need a drink now

[backdoorman]

What is your drink of choice?

[kc_4308]

Louis Latour Château Corton Grancey at Vivino

[backdoorman]

Nice, you have expensive tastes. So is Pinot Noir your favorite red?

[kc_4308]

No had it but no

[backdoorman]

OK so I'll reword my question? What is your favorite drink?

[kc_4308]

Sweet tea

[backdoorman]

Nice. May I ask a question? I think I may have seen that you live in the New Orleans area. I may be visiting that area for work in the next few months and while I'm there I would like to see some of the cool things about the area and check out some of this better restaurants. Do you have any recommendations?

[backdoorman]

*the better restaurants

[KrakenAttackin]

"Intimidate" is the wrong word. Women who are super independent are usually not much fun to have a relationship with. Having your own job and place is fine but the ultra-driven alpha woman is a real turnoff as she is much too much work for very little return.

[kc_4308]

Clearly you didn’t read this post

[KrakenAttackin]

I did read your question but did not see the followups.

[kc_4308]

Okie..

[kc_4308]

You men are TOXIC

[kc_4308]

ESP you

[BigKevHanma]

No because that’s not something men look for in women

[ArrowheadSW]

I don't find it intimidating at all.

[exitseven]

No, it is good to be self sufficient

[JennieF]

Not my husband.

[kc_4308]

That’s good

[ChrisMaster69]

Nope not at all.

[Phoenix98]

Nope.

[anylolone]

Nope.

[Starman5]

Yes maybe

[kc_4308]

Why?

[kc_4308]

If she has her own money and isn’t relationship with a man why does it bother him?

[kc_4308]

Isn’t in a relationship with a man

[Starman5]

just to be for friends

[kc_4308]

That shouldn’t be intimidating

[Starman5]

it's not scary anymore already

[Lonely888]

Nope

[Lonely888]

Well I guess the insecure men