Of course, they do, women value social proof. If other women want him then it triggers them to think that there must be something of value of that man to be wanted. That's why women will usually seek approval from their friends to even consider someone as a potential. If women don't find that man attractive then women will start to think something is wrong with him to not be likable maybe he is not as tall, not as handsome, and not as financially stable to some degree.
Women don't like competition, men do. But for both they would feel there's something severely wrong if no one else wants you but that can vary bc maybe the guy is really mentally challenging but usually if a guy doesn't have options at all he's not a wonderful guy. It's not like they want to see girls flirting with you.
Girls can tell if you have options even if you don't know it. Like a well educated/financially stable guy who chose to focus on building rather than dating and now wants to settle, he might not see it as much but when women pick men they're thinking about their offspring. He can provide a good life for them & this kind of guy is more likely to be loyal. So the only extent that women care that other women want you is because you might have those things together but not because they want what someone else wants. That's a man thing. Men are visually driven & they want someone that other men want. They even use that as an argument to guys who treat their woman bad "You've got a girl that other men want." That comment would not work on a woman.
Men think women want men who have women but they don't. Girls are always making fun of guys who think posting photos with other women on dating apps is going to get them likes when we all avoid them. Girls are actually incredibly turned off by a guy who is showing off other girls especially if it's several. It's just gross.
Guys on the other hand if they see women with men who are around her, they feel like they have competition. Notice women don't go around on dating apps posting with all of their male friends to appeal to men. We all post/make decisions based on our own minds. Men assume women think like them and women do the same.
Well, people tend to want something everyone wants. Even if a person is not your type, if they are popular you start to wonder what they have that's so special. "Marketing makes or breaks anything".
And yet a marketing degree is one of the pointless degrees in university, how ironic. It’s not about marketing in my opinion. It’s about authenticity and with marketing you can't replicate authenticity. Immature people don’t know any better, a genuine person will. If I had a choice between having sex with 20 beautiful female models that meant nothing or 1 down to earth cute girl where I had great chemistry with her, I’m choosing the one girl.
How’s that a saying from a country? That’s pretty much used in Canada and the United States and around the world. Not sure why you’re saying CHILL when I was merely gave an opinion so I guess you should RELAX.
4. The most important thing. Women like men who attract other women! I would have thought this was common knowledge by now.
So since that is true. Don't just approach your "crush" and hopes she likes you. Always date a few women. If you are young, I would suggest dating many. None of this has to be serious. You don't even have to be attracted to them. Go to the movies with them, go bowling, skating, to the zoo, park, play sports, go to the bar, have a group of women you can go out with. And always focus on having fun, laugh, smile, flirt. . . all the while, keeping your crush in the loop. Even if it does not work, more than likely you will eventually meet someone where the feelings are mutual. But you will find it easier to ask your crush out on a date and you will find she will be more open to your advances.
This is sadly extremely true. It was insane how much more friendly (and often flirty) other women treated me when I had a girlfriend. But ladies this is something you REALLY need to work on about yourselves. Here is a list of ways this fucks everything up:
1. Taken guys gets tempted. Sure he as moral obligation not to cheat. But all the sudden he has ton more options which is something he wasn’t always used while single. 2. Single guys get unfair judgment. Especially if they have been long time single (I am coming up on 3 years now). Single women are usually voluntarily single and they get judged far less. 3. Girls waste their time chasing something they can’t (or at least shouldn’t have). Meanwhile you are ignoring plenty of decent single men. 4. The woman with the taken guy gets more paranoid. While a hint of jealousy might healthy (shows she really likes her boyfriend) but some women go nuts over this. It leads to a bunch of unnecessary shit testing.
Feminism has demanded radical changes in men over the past few decades. They actually (destructively in many cases) accomplished to influence late swathes of men. But can’t women change for more selfless reasons for once?
No question that when a guy is in demand with women other women find him attractive. Sure you're always going to have that insecure oddball woman that says "I'm not attracted to that guy". But she says that because she's insecure and doesn't want to compete with other women. It's not that she doesn't really find him attractive. This is nothing but sociology at work. People like to think they're such individuals but the reality people are influenced by others more than they'll readily admit. This is where it ends though. Once a guy and a girl is together women can envy that girl if they like. But the women who go after the guys who are already with a girl are the worst girls. Avoid them at all cost! No decent female does this.
IT'S 100% TRUE! I know from experience. When I post that I have BDSM Submissives and show pics to biitches on social media or dating sites like Facebook, Reddit, Tinder, POF, Bumble, etc.. they not only want me more, but they are willing to play with my subs too. Even chics who say they want a 'relationship' on their profile. This is 100% the fuuckin truth. Having a hot biitch is like SOCIAL CURRENCY to get other hot biitches.
Yeah I think that’s true a lot of the time. I’ve had times when girls I deemed to be “friends” have wanted guys just because I wanted them.
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I’ve noticed this as well. My friend’s sister is an insta model with a… less than average looking boyfriend. But because he’s dating this stunning girl, now suddenly he’s getting a lot of girls interested in him. It’s weird af
It’s jealousy in that case, I also had jealous friends who did this because they thought they should have anything I could have and that would confirm they were as “pretty” as me
Yes if a woman see a man being picked by another woman she gives him a higher value, if she see another woman reject him, she lower his value and are more likely to reject him if he approach her. Women has always rank themselves based on what man they could get. And taking another woman man is the same as out rank her, while taking her rejects is being below her. Female nature in a nutshell.
I ran a little test in that , and it’s true I’m not married never have been. , but one of my bro’s told me to do this and it would open my eyes. Go get a wedding ring put it on go to a bar or club where you are not known , and see what happens. It’s crazy I got hit on that night like crazy. Yep true.
I think you may be on to something there. It’s kind of like not many recognize a movie star on the street as fast as if several others are staring at them (or making a fuss about them!) Especially if the woman with the guy is talking him up, it certainly makes me think one’s eyes would be checking him out to see if her friend is right.
Most assuredly. You could, and many no doubt do, claim that it's just selection bias: a man who's seen as a good prospect by one woman is likely to be seen that way by others- but that wouldn't explain why previously unappealing men suddenly become appealing when they start dating someone.
There is a vast literature on social interactions which shows that women are much more averse to risk than men are. Neurological literature shows how risk appetite depends on testosterone levels. The absence of testosterone leads women not to want to take risks. The fact that a woman has preselected a man means in her view that he has qualities. Therefore women implement a minmax-type strategy. In such a strategy it is minimizing the maximum possible loss, or alternatively maximizing the minimum gain. Unfortunately for her the preselection is often fallacious in approximating the qualities of a man.
Seems like it. They're gonna go after the ladies man for that wholesome type of relationship which that's going to turn out to be a competition on various levels.
If not, the ladies don't want a relationship and will go after the man whore. I'm sorry for saying that so bluntly but in a realistic sense... it's true.
If not, the ladies will go after the sugar-baby, sugar-daddy, baby-daddy and/or side-guy. that's going to give off that there's no wholesome relationship there at all.
Obviously. It's called Hypergamy. Also known outside of dating as the 80-20 Rule. 80% of all women only want the top 20% of all males. The other 20% of women are gay and the other 80% of men are below a 7 out of 10 and most definitely under six feet tall.
Depends on the woman, but generally speaking, if someone is demonstrated as "socially safe" and of value, then others awareness and interest in them goes up.
It's probably more that "success brings more success" and the attributes that person projects are desirable to others.
I think the inverse is true as well, failure brings more failure... because of what the person is projecting of themselves or their value.
The MOMENT another woman is involved and he makes me second guess where I stand in his life I’m out. I don’t entertain that shit.
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Do people have time for games like these? I only desire a man i can have a good chat with, that we'll be comfortable with each other, who'll help me be a better version of myself and vice versa. If what you asked is true, it's toxic and not exclusive to only women but men as well.
I'm not a ugly guy. Back in my 20's I used to have game. However I never got hit on more as I did when I had a ring on my finger. It seemed like the more loyal I was to my ex, the more random women would want to steal me. Now that I'm divorced and older, I rarely get hit on. Hypergamy is just part of women's nature unfortunately. This is why 90% of women are completely full of bull shit.
I think there's some truth to it. Why exactly? I often hear women view each other as "competition", and even just looking at the questions on this site alone, I have no doubt that's true sometimes (maybe a lot of the time? lol), so that's probably why?
I know my own personal experience, I never get looks or noticed from women, but when I've had a girlfriend and out in public, all of the sudden I get looks from women. So I think it's true.
Hope not would like to think women are more level headed than that seems a bit immature for a women to go after another dude who is with someone just because, but I guess there's those who would do something like that, shows lack of character a person who does so and if dude was to take the bait well would you really want to go through that each time you're out with him
I haven't read your responses, so my response is NOT biased by them. I used to read Cosmo back in the 70's to understand women and culture. Men's magazines did not get it. I saw 2 articles about that destructive behavior: 1. One wanted to "destroy" 4 men (using sex) before she got married 2. The other talked about exactly that -- having sex with her girl friend's lover. It seems to me that sometimes our "sex drive" can' get twisted into other behaviors.
We all want an attractive man, a man who will look after us and can provide. Sometimes it's his assets and confidence that makes him more attractive... So look around and see. Alphas aren't always wow for one particular thing, but they're attractive
Personally, no. It shows that he has his attention on other women and that makes me feel like "one of many" which is of course a not-so-good start for me being attracted to a guy. Honestly, I like guys who don't have many women being interested in them, because that allows me to approach them easier. Also the most guys who had the most interesting and decent personalities where those, who haven't had many women who were interesed in them.
Yes, from experience women were more likely to want me for themselves only after seeing me with other women. And watching these women engage in conversation around me was very entertaining, if not brutal. They assault each other using compliments. Something I call complassaulting.
This is partially true. I can confirm this. Not too sure if women have secret radar or something but once they noticed you had sex with another woman they think is interesting then they seem to look at you differently. They seem to know. Not sure if they talked with each other.
Not too sure about "like" but more like "curious".
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If a clever and cunning woman is with a man in women's society, prostitute-spirited women, because they cannot use their minds, turn to the man whom that woman has acquired with her mind. but when she is a smart-cunning and prostitute-spirited woman, she makes a child from the man she snatches and weeps in the female society. And to those who say why you are not getting divorced, he says I have a child or else I would be divorced. but its purpose is clear. is to protect the man she has captured from other prostitute-spirited women.
This is so true it is unreal. I have seen women smash and destroy their entire life, ruin their relationship or marriage because they just had to sleep with some other woman's boyfriend or husband. You can set your watch by it.
For this reason I purposely avoid women and thus, women tend to see me as not valuable. And leave me alone. Good. Go waste your life chasing Marsha's boyfriend Chad. We'll both be happier. Bye.
i'd get a new "planet":) seriously, not everyone is like as described but we are all human with flaws. Majority of those in my circle are faithful and it's across cultures and religions. It's your life though and what you do with it. There's a lot of women out there looking or a man like you... after you change your mind...:).
@lightbulb27 I qualified all that with my exact words bro. Sorry if you're triggered. Go live your life. I will be living mine and not wasting any more of it listening to you have a breakdown. Bye dude.
It says enough about the women if that's how they choose to carry themselves. Just because there's value, doesn't mean it's for her to claim. If a man entertains other women, then there was nothing valuable after all.
@KejKej Nothing is wrong with men who don’t look like this picture. What is “feminine” anyway? I love delicate features and men with smaller statures - to me this is the form of masculinity that appeals to my tastes. The person who posted the pic has different ideals. Also nothing wrong with that. I just saw this photo and had to laugh because it is so very much the polar opposite of what I like in men. Lol.
He is not unattractive - he’s just not physically my type. I think that there is a huge difference between photos and real life. Maybe this guy has a personality that makes him attractive in ways a photo can’t convey. Not all people are photogenic.
@Medicalbug If every girl on internet says he is not her type so it has to means unattractive? In real life quite many girls are attracted to him initially even before he can show his personality
He doesn’t look unattractive on the photo, he looks pretty normal to me. I doubt you’ve surveyed enough people in objective situations to get a conclusive answer to that. I would vote neutral. Also again, in real life he may seem totally different - not everyone is photogenic. So maybe he is exceptionally attractive if you meet him in person but that is lost of photographs. You can’t capture everything on camera. Sometimes you capture the wrong things too. Like I’ve seen super good looking photos (and even videos) of people who look weird or boring in real life.
I can’t give you a definitive answer. In general, fit looking people (of any size) tend to attract favorable looks. I mean I don’t look at peoples muscles when I admire them - more just the overall picture. I especially focus on the face. I have this thing where I start noticing small things about someone I find attractive, which can even just be the line of their collar bone. I’m not really fixated on muscles. The guy on the pic I linked is actually quite skinny. I think it fits his overall appearance and like it. But again, I’m not the muscle fan - you might want to ask the girl who posted that picture of the guy in uniform.
@Medicalbug You’re right when you’re talking about not just the looks & arms and such playing part.
For example the guy I was obsessed with not only looked almost exactly like that image. But his personality was extremely unique. This guy would confront anyone “ girls , guys, whoever wants to fight him. Not only that but his type of voice played a big Part, he had a deep thunderous voice, and it was kind of loud, he’s young Like 25, so he had a mix between teenager voice + strong man voice. On top of all this he would stare at anybody he wanted to for long periods of time. Specially when it came to a girl he was attracted to. He would have no fear of it. In fact there was even stories of him beating someone up, getting into fights. Stories of him standing up to those who judged him or his own bosses. Stories of him being a badass overall. Aside from this , he had some tiny tattoos on his hands or fingers. And really large veiny hands. You could just smell the manliness and testosterone radiating off of him. He had the thickest eyebrows I’ve ever seen , and most of the time his expression was an angry one. It doesn’t matter who was around him, he always looked absolutely angry. Also he was a manger and took his job way too seriously, which made such a crazy character seem interesting. There was just a lot going on with him.
You could also tell he had a lot of experience with girls and dating. You coullddd tellll. Encountering this man felt really like being in front of some celebrity. He had already 2 young kids at only 23 years old. So he was even a father. A thing pretty girl came to our job one day and he was able to sleep with her within a month of meeting her. That made me feel discouraged and I decided no to do it.
But that’s the story of the real life alpha male I met in real life. Nobody had to mention he was getting all kinds of action, and all kinds of pretty girls, because everyone just KNEW
@EmyyWolf Your description of that guy just goes to show how vastly different my tastes are from yours. I like friendly guys with a more gentle temperament who don’t fight people. Not cowardly (I am not either), but not aggressive or confrontational either. More like me, a mix of many things, and also knowing when to back down. A lot of the stuff you described would majorly turn me off, like someone staring at me and not breaking eye contact. I would not be impressed or inclined to get to know them, if someone did that to me. Lol. It’s quite amazing how we have really polar opposite tastes in men. It’s great though, because we will never have to compete with each other. @KejKej No, he is still not my type. I think he is more attractive than the police uniform guy, but he is not the kind of guy who I’d go for just on the basis of those photos. He’s just an average white guy to me.
@KejKej Not really because he looks older than me. Way older. I don’t date guys that are 3 years older than me and such and it is a turn off for me. But maybe if I was your age. Or I don't know your age. I’m 24 . But I think your hairline is making you look way older than you really are. No offense. But you do have nice eyes. I suggest you shave and get one of those hairline tattoos, everyone does it. Just like how women cover their strech marks with tattoos. Good luck.
And like I said personality plays a big part as well and manly behavior.
@emyywolf I am already after hair transplant on most photos (not all of them) and I am also taking meds, so now it looks better. I already plan second hair transplant. However I won't shave, I don't have a shape of head for it. Did you check all photos? Can you photos when I will have a better hair in the future?
@KejKej I don’t think that hairstyle is helping you. Because of your hair line; that hairstyle doesn’t go. Also you have a big forehead. No offense, it’s just the truth, I have a big forehead too. But in your case I suggest you try to go to the gym and bulk up and try to work on your jawline. I believe if you try to make your jawline more prominent than that’ll help your case. Also get on steroids. The more testosterone you have the more you’ll grow hair. I think some psychologists can provide you with testosterone specially if you say you’re depressed. Those meds will help you with having a deeper voice as well. TRUST ME. Also, keep away from P0RN0 , that’ll only make you weaker and keep you comfortable. In fact it’s known by everyone that those who keep away from P0RN push themselves to go out there and work on themselves and get what they want. P0RN is poisonous to men. It turns regular men into lazy slobs. It’s sad but it’s true. P0RN actually doesn’t allow your natural testosterone to build up. And the more you bust nuts on yourself the more you’ll stay at that level of high estrogen. And that’s what happening to a lot of men these days. They are very feminine and lazy because of the instant gratification of P0RN
I already have deep voice and I lower my hairline by hair transplant, but like you said I have naturally big forehead and receeding forehead, so my hairline always will be starting "on the back". Testorone is cause of losing hair, so I won't take it. It's weird because girls are attracted to me in real life, but not on photos. Also check my photo here I got more muscles mass and more hair on the front during 6 years https://ibb.co/album/5Wt7zs
Based on my experience I would say that's true. If i were to hazard a guess why that is, it's because people are afraid of missing out on literally anything and for women, this includes good men, so when a man is off the table, women want him.
As the saying goes, a man is like a key, a woman is like a lock.
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Very true. Usually it's either the rich or the top 20% of men, that 80% of the women are running after. The rich or the top 20% of men get to get laid tonight. These are not real numbers but a close enough approximation. The rest of us? We can go home, watch some pornhub and have a good wank or two. Or hire an escort or a prostitute. That's what we do on our freetime.
Of course. The same is for men. It’s our nature to judge value through consensus. What’s important is that the metrics used are weighed long-term and not superficial.
It’s the age old saying that nothing is as more attractive and valued than something that someone can’t have. if you don’t think that’s true then ask yourself why people kill people over new shiny cars they don’t have, women they don’t have or even money they don’t have.
heck Theirs reports that Hitler was so handsome and charismatic at his rallies that women often killed or gave up their own babies for him. Don’t make sure but I guess being handsome makes people primal.
Women naturally are not risk takers so instead of taking their chances with a guy who may or may not be a loser, they'd rather go after a guy who's already been tested in a relationship with another woman. They basically think "If he's good enough for another woman, he's good enough for me."
I asked are voluntarily celibate men attractive and all women said no. They said the strangely find men more attractive if other women do and also if he has been dating.
I said I know men who are good looking and have no interest in women. 100% said this strangely puts them off.
I would have to say it's sad but true. I think, in a lesser way, a guys friends can also make him attracted to a girl if all the other guys are attracted to her as well. So it goes both ways.
That's a bit daft. Of course people want a desire what is wanted and desired. Be it a sports start, a celebrity for a movie role, an employee, etc etc.
Competition. That’s what it’s mainly about. The guy doesn’t even have to be hot. Just to have a girlfriend so women will say something like What does she have that I don’t, or He could do a lot better than her.
I once knew a woman who went after married man; single men she did not want. She even got beat up in a fight between her and the wife of one of the guys she went out with!
If I’m interested in someone I ask them how many relationships they’ve had/how much sexual experience they have, and that’s usually a tell tale sign. Someone can try lying to me if they want but I can pick up on lies very easily and will stay away from them if they can’t be honest about their past experiences.
100% NO. I don’t want to feel like I’m in a competition. Hypergamy is a turn off to me.
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Absolutely, undoubtedly 100% true! It's a phenomenon known as "social proof." People tend to like things that those around them like. This is VERY true of women assessing men. Much more so than with men assessing women.
Women are as competitive as men, but what goes on in their brains is the great mystery of "Man"kind. I does seen that way. I guess the gatherer instinct in women might have something to do with it.
I never so much attention from women then I did once I got married and started wearing my wedding ring. It was crazy how many women would come up to me and start flirting.
It could be true but for me now it's not. Meaning he isn't attractive just because a bunch of other girls want him too. In fact it's kind of a turn off for me.
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