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We all think differently that’s evacuee of how we are raised environmental factors etc
But as a women you have to pick the best men out there for yourself.. and do not get influenced from society if they say you are getting old fat ugly whatever don’t be a fool
Remember : they transfer to you a hate a hate because they never had to live the life how they wanted to and they want to destroy yours too.
Yeah that’s a true story it’s not a legend
Finding a man today whose not an arse hard
People may not like this but for us women in there mid to late 20s there's a lot of pressure to settle down, get married and have babies. By time were in are 30s men see us as invisible and the one who are interested usually come with baggage also are fertility doesn't last forever too. If we're giving a man are best years we usually expect it to pay off.
If I did get married again it'll be my second marriage.. I don't know about marriage again and I can't have anymore kids ( medical condition)
Sorry I read the question wrong
It's OK
I read it as why do women expect men to settle for them
Typo on my end
It is not an expectation. They try because they are hoping you will settle for them. Of course, it may be an expectation because, at your age, men know your choices are few and far between. When you were at your prime desirable age of 18 to 23, you had 40 times as many choices; especially with the type of men you are seeking.
The fact is, what educated men and women in the low 30s are seeking are totally different. The women want educated high income men. The men want young sexy 20 year olds. Given a choice between ahighly successful 32 year old lawyer that is a partner in large law firm and her 20 year old filing clerk. 11 men out of 10 will choose the filing clerk.
It doesn't take a genius to figure out why he'd want the filing clerk. 1 He knows how time consuming a high career job is. 2 He wants children and a woman with a career might not want it. 3 He wants the woman or mother to raise the kids Not some Nanny he has to pay and basicaly be a second mother to them. A man is atracted to women who show much more motherly instincts then Masculine ones and career women are just that more masculine traits. A job is nothing more then something you do to have money and if you are highly invested in your job he might feel neglected, again something he doesn't want. Children need a lot of time then you'd think. A child is a 24 hour job.
@RiseofArtemis Very true. Plus men are attracted to indicators of high fertility and as women age those indicators such a small waist to hip ratio and a youthful appearance diminishes.
I've been married before trust me I'm not losing anything and have too much to lose now
I don't need a dumb mate sorry... I've been married before and have kids. I'm in a different phase of my life.. I tend to do better with older men who were married, divorced, etc
Do you want the truth?
The successful men have many options and most of them won't be interested in a woman past 30. That is your biggest hurdle from what I have seen IRL, not just from online opinions.
Also, a woman's financial success means very little to most men. So that doesn't make you any more, or any less appealing to them. No points either way.
Your best bet would be to go for either men that don't want kids at all, or go for single fathers.
I don't date American men you should know better
My options aren't limited to Amercian men that's the thing American men don't understand. Furthermore, I don't have a problem dating men who have children.
Yeah, after I read that you have kids already, I think a single father would be your best bet. Try to find someone that you will be happy with and that they will be happy with you too.
Once again , I do better with men internationally.. I don't deal with American men..
My kids come from my 1st marriage.. me and my ex husband are well
I am guessing you can't read. You are focused on "American men" that I never mentioned. Find a foreigner. I don't care. It doesn't affect me in any way. I was only offering a suggestion to help you realistically. The same will likely apply to foreign men too that are successful.
What your saying doesn't matter because I don't follow American standards. I don't even focus on high value men or successful men because those men expectations are too high.
I don't need help thanks though
Yes foreign men are better as they don't follow westernized rules
I heard enough about the high value men on YouTube with Kevin Samuels.. I am not flattered by your type
2 questions: Do you fit into the men that you wants' standards? Also, are you physically attractive?
Successful men usually go for a certain type of girl physically, one who if not physically attractive without trying, tries to be physically attractive. There are a lot of other things that the majority of them go for besides looks but I'm just stating one.
hmm, I've met girls like this in my dating circles, I play down what I do/earn quite a bit to see who is immediately out of there (I dont want this kind of person in my world) but also to see who a) doesn't mind what I do and b) can see through the charade and want to get to know me (these are the real people I want to be around!)
for me, education doesn't happen solely in a school/university
Men and women all try to date up. Everyone thinks they deserve more than they actually can get.
For this reason men fuck women they don't think to be good enough for them while they continue to look for the one they think they deserve.
Women just thumb there nose at any guy who doesn't fit their inflated mold of what they think they should be able to get. They'll throw themselves at a hot guy more often than they'll take a shot at a guy that is at a level they could actually get.
All these creates bitterness amongst the dating pool. And people get so jaded they never have a shot at real happiness.
I've read several of your opinions/takes/questions, etc. You think very highly of yourself. Good for you. Now of only you were actually happy...
I got a kick out of your triggered update. Cute. I doubt you could handle a real alpha male. Good luck.
I didn't block you
I was talking to @KrakenAttackin
I'll find Mr right hopefully sooner then later
Okay. Not sure what that has anything to do with my response. But thanks for telling me?
I'm assuming that's what your talking abou
I hope you do. I hope everybody finds their soulmate.
About.. truth be told I don't know your saying...
We're good. No hard feelings.
OK thanks
I was calling you a conceded narcissist. And I was wishing you luck.
You're welcome. Be good, and stay safe.
Thanks ❤️ you too
Oh I'm no narcissistic empathic yes
I don't think highly of myself.. I'm all about better and aiming for better... so i don't know where you got this assumption
I was being silly, boo.
I... TRUTH be told I'm a hyper sensitive empathic.. I won't date a guy I can run a business with
Once again , men of today are strange.. maybe me staying single is best
Men of the millenial and Gen Z generations are strange. They wear skinny jeans and flats, have colored hair and paint their nails. They have no sense of respect or mannerisms. Yes, they are strange. And they have been feminized by none other than women like you.
I'm out and not going back just stay single
You're a lesbian?
No don't have time for men's BS
Me either
@zeus_66 You know all millennials and Gen Z men and how they dress, think and behave? That's impressive.
It is very impressive. Agree.
As is the size of your ego and we all know what that means.
And this is why I don't put any effort into responding to you. You have now attempted to read my other opinions and questions, with pithy challenges, all to look as if you're holier than thou. You're not that clever.
Cool, bruh!
Why so sensitive?
Not at all.
Cool, bruh!
Much of what is considered "quality" is faked. And so settling for a guy who appears dumber than another guy isn't actually perceived as settling, since the smarter guy is only pretending to be smarter. But the ability to fake it has, itself, become a skill and men generally assume that because it is fake it is universally understood that there is no reason to participate at all.
There are plenty of ways a man can improve himself with and without an education.
I'm sorry, but you're getting a 3rd degree? I don't see the point in having multiple degrees as such. What man is truly gonna set time aside for you? You're not a woman someone would truly want to settle down with, because you come off as competitive and challenging.
Based on your updates, I can tell that you're not having the best of luck.
I have men approach me all the time and my degree is my medical career as a Healthcare manager.. I also don't date American men
There is no way I'll deal with American men and their negative views towards women
A portion of American are not the only men who have these negative views of women. How are you any different from them if you have negative views about men?
I don't- just not interested in dealing with American men
Too westernized
Been single 9 years
You have a standard if men don't understand this thats their problem
Agreed 100
If you are happy not dating and single why the concern for answer to and age old question? This will never be answered to your satisfaction. Why continue a debate that has no resolution, nor true end. I wish you well, in educational endeavors and o hope you find someone!
I'm not sure if I know the answer but it made me think it's possibly the same reason why some women expect the reverse. It's a people trait that some people expect others to settle for them. I am unsure of this is an unconscious ask vs a conscious ask of another. For example do people, or in your case men, actually say they expect you to settle for them? Just curious no sarcasm.
The same reason women expect men out of their league to settle for them id imagine. I tell everyone im highly traditional. Marriage is for virgins. I expect a woman to stay in the home to work. Yet women with careers and body counts pester the shit out of me why i should date them... a "real" woman and even have asked me if id marry them... lets see... hell no. Why do these women keep trying? Im very outspoken about my standards.
You have to stick to what's best for you
But i get you. Its annoying asf. Why do people think others will clearly break all the rules for them? Whats so special about them? They aren't even like the best of the best, maybe that would warrant a little bend to the rules but damn they are not that.
You're totally in your right to want those in a man, you don't need to go against that. You don't need to change what you're looking for. Everybody has the right to want what they want and go for it.
On a sidenote, if you're calling people betas, might wanna rethink your mentality. The whole alpha beta thing is outdated and inaccurate.
If the shoe doesn't fit then then no need to her upset.. yes a few of these guys are whining 🙄
It's not men created it alpha , betas , and sigma
Agreed with the first, if they're not compatible, that's just how it is.
This is not a question. This is fishing for an excuse to vent your personal frustrations. I wish you luck in finding what your looking for. Just know you will not find a perfect spouse, we are all flawed creatures.
They’re hoping you have low standards like the other kiddies they’ve messed with. Angry folks used to try to tell me I’d never get someone who treated me like I was a god, but I did. 🤷🏻♀️
I am done with men of today too much of a headache
I hear you, but I promise there is someone right for you. I’ve coached women before on a similar goal so when you’re ready, I can give you more info.
Maybe @Mz Ash I'm tired of dating and men
I don't. You are just setting your self up for disaster if a person settles
Exactly
Nothing wrong with being picky. I'm also picky. Way better to be in a relationship with someone that you find attractive looks wise and personality wise (everything as a whole) rather then settling for less being unhappy.
Agreed Thanks
I'm shocked that those educated, career-driven guys don't want you.
I'm not in the dating world nor want to deal with today's men
Too disrespectful , rude, misgony