Why do women have so many contradictory rules when dating them?

[Deserter]

How am I supposed to be interesting and stand out but also not be at least somewhat weird? I can't even banter with most girls because they get confused or can't take a joke.

You get sexual, try to flirt and they act like we aren't talking over Tinder.

[Anonymous]

If your attractive to a woman there are no rules. It's all about wealth signaling with you in exotic places, driving a nice car, in hotels etc.

Get off tinder is my advice, it's too much effort being put in for too little reward. Honestly it's very low quality women being pursued by every thirsty guy in a 20 mile radius and this give them an ego boast even the fat below average low quality women. Work on yourself, work out, eat right, dress better and women will notice you. Go to where women gather at church, gyms, clubs, yoga, ice skating whatever even use female relatives to set you up with a friend.

The only place i found tinder to be good was in Thailand. My tinder was hit up by about 1000 hot Asian women in the first day. As a white man by dick was treated like it was made of solid gold.

[Flunkerdunk]

The problem is you are using a social media based hook up application. You are fishing for broken young women who are driven insane by being played all the time/trying to play guys.

These Tinder gals will talk shit on men with their friends and then want to cuddle with a guy for an hour. They will parrot each other about how: "men ain't shit" but then turn around and ask: "why can't I find a man?".

Normal respectable women are not usually on some random dating app. You meet them organically. I met a girl even while pumping gas into my personal truck because I caught her singing to herself on the other side of the pump and she got embarassed that I got her and I laughed and wasn't judging her. I didn't pursue any further and had just a nice conversation with her (She wrote her number and first name on a slip of paper but I threw it out when I got home, she looked too young for me like she was maybe young 20s).

I wasn't on a social media service with 200 something guys to compete with (most of them not even honest on their "dating resume"). It was me and her directly engaged in an organic social situation with no guys to swipe left or right on. She sees the truck, I'm dressed in my work uniform, I'm smiling and talking to her. Simple.

[Brainsbeforebeauty]

This!!

[cryscrys1]

Why do you think arrangement happens
Oh no don’t low class me or Arab me


Rich people do that all the time. Why do you think rich marry rich ! ? They ask friends to
Vouch for them a good guy or girl !


Who’s your close fiends? Do you trust them. Ask them.


Oh so you are looking only to fuck? Bc that’s the trend now !
Well I can’t help. You live once I get but do not yolo with herpes at 80s feeling itchy yolo with a good wifey and kids true love and meaning.


Try online dating but not tinder I never had tinder but pls think highly of yourself. don’t go were all sheep go.
This site is good. Or maybe language apps. Or maybe gym , library. Also find a girl who matches your vibe. If you seem to be introvert and not talkative then try to approach those kind of girls.


You have to learn how to read people. You can’t all do that by pictures too In tinder. It’s easy.


Also don’t worry good things take time

[Brainsbeforebeauty]

First, don't think so women as the same.. And second, don't judge all women by the women on "tinder"...

Also, to your comment about women flaking to the user that said women are only good for pump and dump, could you blame women for flaking on going out with men who think that way, view women that way🤷🏼‍♀️

[Deserter]

They can't read my mind, and some contacted me just to fuck and then ghost. One contacted me twice at 4 am but I was too tired, so we set up another date and time, wake up, blocked. We were trading nudes and sexting all week too, wtf is that about?

[Brainsbeforebeauty]

So you could flake but not the female?
These women aren't dating you. They're not obligated to you in any way..
Maybe she changed her mind about having sex with a stranger off tinder or maybe you got Catfished..

[Deserter]

How did I flake? I never agreed to meet at 4 am, we set up a time. She can opt out but why? They never give a reason, it's so frustrating, I don't know if I even did anything wrong

[Brainsbeforebeauty]

Maybe that's a good thing.. Meeting strangers for sex doesn't sound like a very good idea... You know there was a guy and girl that was using the internet to lure guys to a hotel where they thought they were getting laid, but instead they got jumped and robbed...

[Deserter]

That's rare

[Brainsbeforebeauty]

STD'S sadly aren't..

[Deserter]

Condoms

[Brainsbeforebeauty]

You know condoms don't 100% protect from STD'S right? Especially if any oral sex is involved, and you can get mouth herpes just from kissing, right?

[Deserter]

Mostly, and what's the alternative, not have sex?

[Brainsbeforebeauty]

Hope about have sex with people you get to know first, and maybe both get tested first🤷🏼‍♀️

[Brainsbeforebeauty]

*how

[Deserter]

I dont want a relationship tho

[Brainsbeforebeauty]

Getting to know someone good enough to know if it's someone you should have sex with isn't a relationship lol
And neither is practicing safe sex/being safe about who you have sex with..
You don't know these women from Adam, you really think they'll honestly tell you if they had an STD? Why said should get tests before having sex but hey if you into "Russian roulette"sex, carry on 🤷🏼‍♀️

[Deserter]

I am and will 🥳

[Brainsbeforebeauty]

Okay but if you catch something don't say someone didn't try to warn you.. Keep playing with matches, you'll eventually get burned lol

[Deserter]

Not like I have a choice, girls lie about body count, trying to find a virgin girl is impossible

[Brainsbeforebeauty]

Why
should a virgin girl have sex with you if she's saving herself for a relationship or marriage and you want just sex🤷🏼‍♀️
And not all women lie about body count.. maybe the ones you meet, but again look what you're meeting, women on tinder who would have sex with a stranger, 🤷🏼‍♀️

[Deserter]

My argument is rhat there are no virgin girls to even pursue

[Brainsbeforebeauty]

Oh there is but you won't find them on tinder.. And again, why would you pursue someone who saved themselves and think they'd want or have casual sex with you... Some people do put more value on sex and sexual relationships than "just sex" or hook up sex...

[Deserter]

If I want a virgin she'd have to be like 18, I'm 27

[Brainsbeforebeauty]

My one daughter was a virgin until she was 23, so again they're out there but you're missing the point that you wouldn't stand much chance with a virgin when you just want hook up sex... Nor should that be a virgins first sexual experience

[Deserter]

Your daughter probably lied tbh

[Brainsbeforebeauty]

No she didn't... Because she didn't tell me her first time, she told her sister and it was pretty recent and she's about to be 24... Just because you don't know any virgins that age doesn't mean they don't exist.. But hey, much better to call my daughter a liar 🙄

[Deserter]

It is the culture we live in

[Brainsbeforebeauty]

Not everyone is living that culture though... As much as you young people trying to make it that way.. Not everyone wants/engages in casual sex.. Not everyone lies about their sexual past and partners.. on here, people say young people aren't getting married anymore but I know a lot of young people that are still getting married or already married..
But again, those aren't the types that will be on tinder

[Sandeeppingping]

😂😂😂😂😂It is what it is my guy, so many dudes put themselves in lower positions before interacting in the first place, what's better being on tinder with a profile that says that you're a 7/10 like most dudes on there or being the shit at your college/university or bs like that, status basically bruv you never get that from a tinder profile unless you're jacked with an insane lifestyle (Pretend of course no one is like that), also texting is worst form of communication you can't be witty on text unless you already know her and got that vibe with her otherwise it'll be taken too literally, not gonna ramble too much bro just my 2 cents on this if you get me

[Deserter]

I've had good banter and sometimes the girls are friendly and receptive but holy crap. A lot of the time they message first and still act like they're superior

[Ez-Bri-Z_v2]

Everybody likes different things including approaches. The same thing won't work for every girl except maybe just having confidence in general.

Like me, personally, I love a sense of humor. If someone is opening with dad jokes or something he's in and we are having a conversation, but if he starts with my looks I'm probably shutting down. That doesn't hold true for everyone else though.

[Deserter]

That's what I don't get, you swipe based on looks so why can't I compliment them?

[Ez-Bri-Z_v2]

I have low self esteem when it comes to my looks. When people bring them up it makes me self conscious and takes me out of the conversation. I'd imagine others feel that way too. That or they just hear it so often that it isn't original anymore.

[minuteman12]

You look great.

[minuteman12]

@Ez-Bri-Z_v2

[TroyDT]

While no one is completely consistent, if there are glaring inconsistencies I just walk away. Too many normal women out there for me to waste time dealing with loons.

[Deserter]

Tinder is a whole other animal and I'm introverted so I don't go out of my way irl

[Anonymous]

Because you're trying too much to be real. Women don't want real. I mean they say they do, but they don't man. They'll take a preferred lie over the truth almost every time. Whatever works man, you say that s***.

Always remember women spend half thier life in the fantasy world. In the fantasy world the time of guy want really does exist! So bring that fantasy to life. At least till she f***s you.

[maximumpower]

They're seriously fucked in the head - really.
Believe me here.

[Brainsbeforebeauty]

Women are fucked in the head if they don't want to or change their mind about engaging in casual sex with a stranger they met on tinder? Maybe guys that think they should just get sex from somebody they don't even know are the ones fucked in the head... 🤷🏼‍♀️

[Deserter]

Women can't make up their minds, huge character flaw, their word means nothing, they can't so much as be direct and call it off, instead they block and ghost like cowards

[FilmGuy93]

None of what you described is contradictory; it's about finding a middle ground between assertive and respectful. She wants to feel you take charge, but never feel like she's truly lost control

[Deserter]

That's a contradiction bro

[FilmGuy93]

No, it's not; it's just a question of degree. When a cop pulls you over for speeding, the punishment they give you is dependent on how fast over the limit you were going. Yes, you're speeding either way, but you aren't going to lose your license for going 5 over the limit. 50 over the limit is a different deal.

[Deserter]

Still not supposed to speed, that's the difference...

[FilmGuy93]

The way a woman interprets your behavior works the exact same way though. She wants you to be bold and explore while also listening to her and respecting her boundaries.

[Deserter]

How is it the same? You can make a lighthearted joke that isn't even sexual and they still take it up the ass, but also exect you to be entertaining and funny

[FilmGuy93]

I joke around with women constantly and I almost never have anyone respond badly. I make sexual innuendos too. Have you considered (and I'm genuinely asking this; I'm not trying to be an ass here at all) the possibility that maybe there is an issue with the way you tell jokes?

I'm gonna be totally real with you; a lot of people, maybe even most people, flat out suck at humor.

[Deserter]

No, I'm funny, what most schmucks find funny is family guy and low iq bullshit, you're probably the same

[FilmGuy93]

Humor is a tricky thing man, I'm not judging. It's just that if most women aren't finding your jokes funny, there's a really good chance that there's a problem with your delivery.

[Deserter]

They do, just not on Tinder

[FilmGuy93]

And are you having sex with women you’re meeting in your daily life?

[Deserter]

It would be easier that way I'm sure, but I mostly keep to myself

[FilmGuy93]

Is there any particular reason you do that?

[Deserter]

Most people irl bore me to death, internet is different

[FilmGuy93]

My guess is that women are probably picking up on that.

[Deserter]

I literally have to entertain myself when talking to them. And no that's a copout, they can't read minds

[FilmGuy93]

It's not hard to tell when someone doesn't give a fuck about talking to you, dude...

[Deserter]

I can get engaged if the convo picks up, but no, people aren't mind readers, dude

[FilmGuy93]

Lmfao it's not "being a mindreader," it's just paying attention and being socially aware. Like I don't need to be a mindreader to know that you aren't going to take a single thing I say under advisement. You've said it yourself; you think most people are boring and aren't worth your time. You have made up your mind that these people are beneathe you. I'm sure that the people you think aren't boring are probably also the people smart enough to find your jokes funny, but the fact that your attempts at humor are often heard poorly any time a woman is thinking about taking you seriously should be all the indication you need that you're doing this wrong.

Humor and relationships rely on approaching people where they are at. You are refusing to approach people where they are at, and people are picking up on that.

[Deserter]

Your assumptions are incorrect

[FilmGuy93]

Okay. So tell me what I got wrong and what the correct answer is.

[Deserter]

I didn't make up my mind that they're beneathe me, I didn't choose to find them boring, I just do. Women laugh at my jokes, on Tinder they just act like cunts,

[FilmGuy93]

I didn't say you chose those things, but the net result is that "boring" people are inferior to "interesting" people. And anyway, the choice you DO make is to continue going on Tinder where the quality of woman you're interacting with isn't appealing to you. Why aren't you talking with women in person when you get better results?

[loveslongnails]

I've never used Tinder and doubt I ever will. From what I hear, women who use it either just want to hook up, or they're under the delusion they can find a serious boyfriend there.

[BJP21]

Be careful on the the things you joke about if you haven't get to know them yet, joking about something sexual can really set a tone on first impressions.

[LimitedBenefits101]

Why do you even bother with them?

Pump and dump that's what they are good for.

[Deserter]

It's difficult to even get them to meet up, mostly flaky cowards

[Anonymous]

It's simply because they make rules for the nice guy and break rules for the bad boy.

[Heolurt]

Because feminazism that's why.