No girl ever wanted me, what should I do?

[Anonymous]

İ'm gonna be 21 in 5 days

Not even One girl was interested me Throughout my life, they always ignored me

I cry every night, i think this is because i'm short, i can't even go outside because i dont want to see couples

Being a short guy destroyed my life

[MCheetah]

Join the club. I'm one of the organizers of it!

There's nothing you can do about it, outside of risky and expensive leg lengthening surgery. I was exactly in your shoes in my early to mid 20s. My advice? Cry it out of your system (this includes literally crying), purge through the sadness, accept reality, and move on with your life. The dating world is awful for THE MAJORITY of men out here and only 20% of men are not short (six feet or taller). Even less men than that, 10%, are attractive looking AND tall enough. So it's not just you who's lonely. One out of theee men under 30 are now virgins. And modern women are getting sh*ttier, more selfish, and more entitled than ever before. A sea of single men and the majority of modern women under 30 are undateable cunts. Welcome to the 2020s.

Like I said, purge the sorrow out of you once and for all, accept the Red Pill (or the Black Pill; they're becoming one in the same now), accept reality, and make plans to have the best, most kick-ass life ever just knowing there won't be a woman in it because you're too short or unacceptable to them.

There's more to life than ungrateful women and unhappy marriages; I promise you. But getting there won't be quick or easy. I'm still not fully there yet, but have made great progress in five years.

[Guy13]

Happy 🎂 . You Value is not in beauty, girls, and/or cosmetic. Women seek men who thrive and grow in maturity, wealth, and vision of future.
Worry about getting your career and personal life in order for family…so that you are attractive to women.

[WonderBell99]

How tall are you? I don’t think your height is your problem. A lot of women are shy and fear rejection just as much as guys do.

Do you approach women and ask them out? Do you go out and socialize? I’m sorry, but without trying to get to know someone, and just waiting for them to start being interested in you, I don’t think you would be able to score dates.

- Are you physically fit? I don’t see myself dating someone who does not take care of their health. Disregarding their health and fitness is extremely unattractive to me.
- What about your hygiene?
- Do you take care of your skin well? What about your clothing? A good fashion sense can boost your overall appeal.

What do you mean when you say that they “ignore” you? If I do not know anyone personally, I’d ignore them too. You cannot just wait for girls to start giving you attention when you haven’t even attempted to approach them. That’s on you.

[Asker]

İ'm 5'7
I talk with everyone, i'm literally the cleanest in my class, i spend 3 4 hours to choose what i wear
I did everything i could, but i gave up
Nobody wants me, i want to do bad things to myself

[WonderBell99]

5’7 is not that short. It’s the average in many countries. I’ve known men shorter than you who do well with women.

Do you approach women? Do you take interest in getting to know them?

[Asker]

I used yo aprroach , but not anymore
They always reject me for being too short

[WonderBell99]

That’s crazy. You might want to consider joining some clubs to get to know people though. Not everyone is shallow. Besides, think of it this way… you don’t want to date someone that is so worried about your height, right? You’d much rather someone want you for who you are as a person than your height.. wouldn’t you?

I don’t think you should give up.

[Asker]

Why shouldn't i give up, hope makes everything worse

[WonderBell99]

You can either sit and lament on about why girls are not making a move on you OR you could actually go out and try, do something about it

[Asker]

What could i do, nothing
Tell me

[Asker]

Tell me

[WonderBell99]

I’ve already told you. There is no sure fire way to make girls go on dates with you. You should put effort in getting to know them. Approach them and be genuine. We don’t want men who’d fake their feelings just to have sex with us. 5’7 isn’t even that short. I don’t think your problem is with your height.

[Asker]

Well i did what ypu Said, they rejected ne and they Said that i'm too short

[Asker]

I feel like i' travis bickle
There's no escape

[MCheetah]

@WonderBell99
Women nowadays won't even accept a guy under six feet tall. Anything below that is considered a negative and he'll have to be that much more "perfect" in order to "compensate" for his "flaw" of being short. If his height starts with "five foot..." it's a dealbreaker for most women.

You also aren't helping him by telling him he needs to have an eight pack and spend all his time in the gym just for you or other women to give him the time of day. That's bad advice. If he doesn't want to spend 12 hours a week in a gym, he shouldn't have to, while women get wined and dined just for existing.

Asker... Like I said in my own comment, you need to find yourself, work on yourself, and achieve inner peace, assuming it's possible. Wasting your time with women in today's day and age, is a losing game. Most women (and people) are awful. Don't live your life for these trashy females who'll just use you for your money, then divorce in your late 30s while taking everything. That's what happens to the tall and good looking men out there who aren't us. Even Johnny Depp's short-ass got screwed six ways to Sunday until this year, and it took his ex being an idiot for him to even win.

Trust me; I've been where you're at and STILL loathe being short more than you. I guarantee you I hate my height more than you hate yours. But the true prize is finding happiness all on your own, rather than relying on someone else to make you happy; someone who won't even love you as you are, like WonderBell outright admitted. We've all been fed the illusion of love and happiness that a woman can supposedly bring us. But those women are going extinct and almost none of them are actually single anymore. It's time to wake up and live your life for YOU, not her.

[WonderBell99]

@MCheetah I strongly disagree with your reply. While the Asker does need to become more comfortable with his height, it does not mean that he should just give up on dating. For pete's sake, that guy is only 21. He still has a lot of years ahead of him. You are not exactly helping him by just asking him to "accept the reality".. what reality are you even talking about? Google "The Herberts". They are a family channel; Abby is 6' while Josh is 5'6. They are married and have a kid together. If men shorter than the Asker can find love, why can't he?

One of my guy friends is around 5'9, safe to say that he has never had any problem with women. In fact, he did better than me at dating.. because according to you, I should do better at dating just because I'm a woman, no? Nope, he does not have eight packs either. He had good facial symmetry, took care of his health well and had a good fashion sense which boosted his overall appearance.

I NEVER, in my reply, ever mentioned that someone needs to have an eight pack to get girls. You do realize that having an overly muscular body is not a sign of good health, right? Many of those who achieve that use steroids which is the opposite of healthy. NOBODY needs to spend 12 hours at the gym. He could just run 2 miles in the morning and be healthy. Being obese is neither healthy nor attractive. You do realize that people who ONLY run exist, right? Walking 7,000 steps in a day is not exactly that hard.

[Asker]

Cope

[MCheetah]

@WonderBell
He is only 21 yeah, and I was also 21 in 2007, going through the same sh*t as him. And 2007 didn't have OnlyFans and Tinder and fourth wave feminism.

We can also compare how many women you've tried to flirt with, versus me and OP and see who has more actual real world experience with this. Women are the worst ones to listen to about female dating because they never had to actually feel rejection from other women before, nor do their own standards apply to all other women (often times, their advice wouldn't even work on themselves; so many women claim "personality matters" and will then reject a 10 personality guy for being 5'8").

[MCheetah]

@WonderBell99
I'm not feeding OP sugar coated bullsh*t. This is reality for so many men and most women are either clueless to it or couldn't care less about men's suffering for as long as those 10% of Chads out there still exist. And using the 4% exception to debunk the 96% rule, also doesn't matter. Usually the only short guys who can get taller women are rich guys, like Kevin Hart or Seth Green. There's still 96% of women who wouldn't want a guy under six feet except as her very last resort she'll use as a simp for a few years but never actually love.

Another thing OP needs to learn is, when women ACTUALLY like you, you don't need to try hard to impress them. Chad and Tyrone don't pay for women's dates or have to text first. If you're not with a woman who treats you like that, she's not actually into you and never will be.

You also did tell him he had to be in perfect athletic shape in order to be "worthy" of a woman? Why should he? What exactly does she bring to the table? He shouldn't have to do sh*t to be "worthy" other than be a good guy. But here you are, feeding him BS about needing to be a gym rat and jog two f*cking miles everyday, in order to be "worthy," while women can just exist and be loved. You're helping make my case on why he should avoid modern women better than I am with BS like that.

OP can do what he wants though. But a ball-less simp and slave, like you want him to be. Or forge his own destiny in life, without worrying about "having to impress women" like you think he needs to.

[WonderBell99]

@MCheetah Women should be skinny and in good shape to get a guy they find attractive, no? I don't really see the double standards here.

[WonderBell99]

Again, being in shape is much different from being athletic. I prefer lanky guys... and they are not athletic.

[MCheetah]

@WonderBell99
"Women should be skinny and in good shape to get a guy they find attractive, no?"

No one said that but you. Most women are NOT physically attractive or models. And men still want them to be their partners.

The true double standard is you and most girls thinking it's okay that women can literally just exist and men are supposed to sweep them off their feet and impress them despite them bringing nothing to the table but their gender, but men have to demonstrate impressive value and be in the top 10% of all men before women will give them the time of day. And that any man who isn't built like an Olympic swimmer and spends 40 minutes every morning jogging and being athletic, deserves to go unloved, as you're implying.

[WonderBell99]

@MCheetah Lmao what? You do realize 40 mins of jogging is not enough for Olympic level swimmers, right? I never once said men who are not athletic deserve to go unloved. That is just you putting words into my mouth. My ex was tall, but absolutely not "athletic" when we first started dating. I have had crush on plenty of guys who were not athletic, just regular lanky.

[Theabcking]

@wonderbell99 then all of the men you have been with must have been very kind and extraordinary gentlemen. Why would you ever leave such a man? Since physical traits don't mean that much in the grand scheme of things, they must have had great personalities, right? They did not; that is why you left them. You choose him for what you physically saw and ignore what he was spiritually.

Women will want this guy later when he finishes his master's degree or owns a successful business, but it is only because he is the middleman between her and what she wants.

[WonderBell99]

@Theabcking Of course personality is important. I would never get into a relationship with someone whose personality is total trash. You do realize that sometimes relationships do not work out for whatever reason, right?

If you're gonna whine about your dry ass dating life, go ahead. idgaf

[Wisdom-Strength-Love]

Welll we need to diagnose to why you believe this to be the case. Do you believe it is physical appeal.
The defeated attitude ain't helpin though. No girl was interested in someone who isn’t interested in himself to begin with. Put some passion in it, and get in attack mode. Passiveness and being too nice is where love life for men die. And time is not on your side. Haste be with you

[Wisdom-Strength-Love]

I just seen the height thing. It isn’t i. Your favor, but it can be beaten. Short ain't a deformity to say the least.

[mattdzz]

You should quit being a crying child about this, and go get fit and financially stable. There are many races of girls who don't care about height- go for an Asian or Latina girl.

[MCheetah]

@mattdzz
You're a cuck giving him bad advice, really thinking you're some kind of "Alpha Male," huh? Your advice boils down to "live your entire life trying to impress sh*tty women who don't have to do anything in return back to deserve you." Cause that's REAL "alpha," bro. I do agree that he should better his own life, but the part you messed up on is saying he should do it for "Asian and Latina girls."

[mattdzz]

@MCheetah First off, idiot, how are you going to agree with what I said, then go off because you think being a better/ more impressive (to men and women) man is being a cuck/ simp, etc?
The fact of the matter is that Asian and Latina women are (on average) shorter than white girls, and from anecdote they're less likely to harp on some arbitrary height figure- not to mention being better girlfriends and more mentally stable (personal experience).
I don't care about punks like you thinking I'm alpha, but the question asker needs SOME guy to slap him upside his head, tell him to stop being a b****, and to do better, which will in turn get him female attention.

[MCheetah]

You're telling him to be a slave to women and seek their validation, which isn't helping him. I said your advice would be solid IF he did it for HIMSELF and not just to kiss women's assses like you're telling him to do. And I live in South Korea; your assertion that Hispanic and Asian women have lower standards is complete bullsh*t.

[mattdzz]

@MCheetah I'm speaking of Latina and Asian women in the US, which is where 90% of the people on this site are from. Korea is a special case, as with diet, height surgery, etc. there are many South Korean men who are taller, on top of having access to top grade plastic surgery, and arguably the best style.
I never said that Asian women had low standards, I said they were less likely to harp on height as a prerequisite. My experience across the US, in cities and universities has given me this impression.

[FilmGuy93]

Hold yourself to the highest standards you're comfortable with, and get disciplined about maintaining those standards. Eventually you WILL meet a woman who appreciates that.

[AngryCarl]

Well sitting at home crying ain't going to fix it. If you're rich women won't care how short you are. In America first you get the money, then you get the women. I know I heard that somewhere.

[NerdInDenial]

Max out your physical prowess and grind out the money game. Then, go overseas.

[Cubus]

Search further. You will eventually find someone.

[LimitedBenefits101]

Blame your parents for your shortness🤷