Why do men on dating apps continue to use pictures of themselves from their younger days when they had hair, but don’t have any hair now?

[Anonymous]

[MrOracle]

How many women use makeup, fake hair, filters, hold their camera from a high angle, and frame the picture so only their face is seen? I bet there are 500 of those for every bald guy with an old picture when he had hair.

[Turkishgirlhere]

😂😂egreed

[Turkishgirlhere]

Agreed*

[TheSpaceGnome]

Sometimes you have to hold the camera at a high angle just to combat the camera lense distorting face shape if your camera is shit, though the other stuff is inexcusable outside of covering up a temporary cut or zit or something. I bet in most cases women are also just assuming it's an older pic because he looks young.

[Malwi93]

@TheSpaceGnome what do the mm mean

[MrOracle]

@Malwi93 It's how lenses are measured. The smaller the number, the wider angle the lens is, but also the more barrel distortion ("fisheye effect") there is. Barrel distortion makes things in the center of the frame larger and things towards the edges of the frame smaller.

learnopencv.com/.../...al-distortions-1024x352.png


Notice the distortion of the heads of the two people on the outside edges of the picture? That's caused by barrel distortion. And in SpaceGnome's pictures, the really wide 24mm lens makes the girl's nose huge and her head shape weird. The longer the lens, the more natural and proportional she looks.

A longer lens (a larger mm measurement) means a narrower angle, and allows the camera to be further away from the subject, and this flattens the image and helps everything in the image be proportional - you'll have less distortion as you get to the edges of the frame.

But while holding the camera further away does reduce barrel distortion, holding the camera at a high angle does nothing for barrel distortion. What holding the camera high DOES do is stretches the skin of the neck (making it smoother) AND it tends to make the body look smaller because the face is much closer to the lens than the body is. In other words, it's a way to make the camera tell a lie, and that's exactly why most women use that technique - just as they use makeup, filters, hair extensions, and other fakery.

[TheSpaceGnome]

@MrOracle I've seen holding it high up result in undistorting my own face back to the way it is in real life. The easiest way to tell is if you compare the photo to what it looks like in a mirror that isn't warped. You have to angle the phone's camera at a tilt while above and in front, until it matches whats in the mirror. The angle used is this / a bit away from the forehead enough to have the entire head and shoulders i the pic.

Though thinking about it, the best angle to match reality may differ based on the person's real face shape. My jaw is smaller in real life than it is in straight on photos with a low mm lens, so having the bottom of the camera titled farther back with the top closer and the camera held above, tends to fix that.

[Malwi93]

then why do some women look so great on selfies lol

[MrOracle]

@TheSpaceGnome You're wrong, but there's a reason you're wrong that you don't realize, and I know exactly what it is. When you're looking in a bathroom mirror, you are nearly always being illuminated from above, which means you have harsh shadows in your eye sockets and under your nose, and that looks unnatural. If you angle your camera up, you are also tilting your face up towards the light, and you're canceling most of the shadows. But a bathroom mirror is an unnatural situation, and doesn't reflect how you look in real life, under normal lighting conditions.

[MrOracle]

@Malwi93 No one said they didn't look great in the selfie - the problem is that they often don't look that way in real life. To a woman, the point of a selfie is to LIE - to try to look better than she actually does. To a man, the point of a selfie is to see what she ACTUALLY looks like, which is why men tend to hate selfies - we know they are nearly always manipulated.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IGR23fy19Uo

In a close-up selfie, this girl looks cute and a little above average - but when you zoom out, you find out she's 300 pounds and needs to book 2 seats to fly. And, look, I'm a fat person myself, so I'm not hating on her, but if I were to use a dating app, I'd have pictures of myself that showed my whole body, because I'm not dumb enough to think that hiding my body is going to do me any favors. I assure you that THIS girl has zero body shots on her profiles - nothing but close-up selfies - because women are VERY comfortable with visual lies, especially of themselves.

[TheSpaceGnome]

Actually I'm not wrong, you are.
When facing the camera straight, the lense distortion makes my head longer, and wider in the bottom than it actually is, this angle / corrects the distortion, reasteblishing the correct face shape by enlarging the top and shrinking the bottom to match reality.

The bathroom lighting isn't relevant, whether illuminated or not I don't see that sort of shadowing.

I'm "baby faced", so it all looks smooth even in very low light at whatever angle, and the camera also has a flash. Also the bathroom isn't where I take pictures, I have mirrors elsewhere in the house.

[TheSpaceGnome]

This isn't me, but this shows a good example, straight on the camera looks like "square / triangle" one, but my actual face shape is more like the "oblong / rectangle" one. Holding it at that angle about a foot from my forehead fixes it back to normal. www.researchgate.net/.../...e-shape-categories.png

[MrOracle]

@TheSpaceGnome Well, yeah - no one said that your nose was supposed to be touching the screen when you were using the front camera. You DO need to have the camera back away from you some in order to reduce the barrel distortion - most front cameras have very wide-angle (i. e., short focal length) lenses which naturally have lots of barrel distortion. But you don't need to hold the camera high for this - just at arms length. If you hold it high, you are introducing perspective distortion, and while you might prefer that look, it's not how you ACTUALLY look.

[TheSpaceGnome]

Actually it is how I ACTUALLY look.

You do realize that height is still distance correct? the barrel distortion at the bottom is stronger on the lense because of how the lense sits in the camera.

I do photography on the regular, I know what I'm doing.

[TheSpaceGnome]

Also, this disparity in dostortion is present with it a foot away from my face, not "touching my nose". You are grasping at straws at this point.

[Malwi93]

So whas the best way to take selfies

[MrOracle]

@TheSpaceGnome "the barrel distortion at the bottom is stronger on the lense because of how the lense sits in the camera."

If you are talking about the fact that the lens isn't centered on the back of the camera, sure, but that 2" of off-center isn't going to make any significant difference, and you can easily hold the lens level with the center of your face. If you hold the camera high, looking down, you are narrowing your jawline (from forced perspective, not from barrel distortion) and making your body look smaller.

[MrOracle]

@Malwi93 "So whas the best way to take selfies"

It's to not take "selfies" - instead, either prop up the phone or get a cheap tripod and camera mount ($20-40) and use the back camera and the timer or a remote shutter button. That way, you can be further away from the camera, and you'll be using the longer lens and higher quality camera on the back. The front camera is really intended for video calls, and while they've improved them over the years, they're still too wide-angle to really take good "selfies".

Even better: get someone to snap the pics for you.

[MrOracle]

[TheSpaceGnome]

"If you are talking about the fact that the lens isn't centered on the back of the camera, sure, but that 2" of off-center isn't going to make any significant difference"

I'm talking about the lense itself being slightly tilted in its socket, but I suppose what you said about it not being centered would effect it as well a bit.

"If you hold the camera high, looking down, you are narrowing your jawline"

My jaw line is significantly narrower in real life than on my camera, so thats kind of the point. The lense isn't flat like mirrors are, and because of that it warps shapes at the edges. In order to not need to hold it up high, I'd need to increase the distance its held significantly, and without a selfie stick or tripod setup, thats not possible.

[Anonymous]

most girls are fat which is somewhat the same or possibly worse and they post photos with favoring angles and filters to slim down the face and angles that make them look less fat. c'mon it's to catch someone the reason they're on there so you have to try to impress somehow, MOST of the people on there are deceiving one way or another and in person will not be how they look on there, this mostly goes for girls you cannot deny that because girls use way more filters than men do and take more time to take photos, plus the make up alone is already a big help for many girls who look hideous without. Stop bashing or complaining when in general girls are the worse in this, the ones that actually look good in person too will not admit that they had some work done as most girls from today have some lip fillers, fake lashes and all the fat transfer, chin lips and surgieries that are now so common.. fakest of fakes calling out on bald guy trying to catch a date lol ridiculous.

[Opinion Owner]

also not to mention the nose make up. how many of you look like a complete different person because of nose contouring lol

[DarkCarousel]

I would argue that it’s not all poor intentions— someone might like to show their interests and have a photo that shows them doing this or that but it’s older.
If all of them are very old pictures, or filtered only, for either men or women, then it’s misrepresentation.

[magiusX26]

same reason women use older pics, make-up, filters, stolen pics, fake hair/eye-lashes/boobs/botox, and probably some photo editing stuff. to get someone at least intially attracted to them. thing is, by the more common standards put upon guys for dating these days, if guys showed their real selves, zero would get a date as those who live up to today's standards rarely if ever use dating apps where as even the least attractive woman would still get a few guys inteterested no matter what she showed honestly.

[magiusX26]

@BeMuse brought up another great point as to why as well. most of us guys dont take many pics and we use them till we can't (and sometimes even after that) .

[Summeroflove]

Because they don’t wanna be honest about who they really are. People are gonna find out eventually

[coachTanthony]

Anyone who misrepresents themselves have serious issues that includes people who use filters or older photos.

[BeMuse]

Guys in general don't tend to take a lot of photos of themselves. If they have one on hand, then they will probably use it rather than waste time taking another picture. Looks aren't all that important to most men. Women in contrast are narcissistic so they are constantly taking pictures of themselves and living delusions behind masks of all kinds of fake shit and filters because they can't stand to face reality. They live in a world of make believe and are obsess with superficial vanity.

[BeMuse]

*and are

[BeMuse]

"Women and men seem to use their camera rolls differently. Women in the study were much more likely to photograph themselves or have themselves photographed.

They took selfies 8.6 times more often than men and were photographed 3.5 times more often than men. Women documented their possessions 5.4 times more than men."

theconversation.com/i-studied-5-000-phone-images-objects-were-more-popular-than-people-but-women-took-way-more-selfies-150080

[itsalyssaagain]

Looool I’m laughing cause this will trigger a lot of men.


The truth is a lot of men lose hair as they get older. We have makeup, wigs, body shape things and we can use that to cover our insecurities. Men don’t have the same grace.

[godfatherfan]

Why do women do the same freaking thing?
Actually, it is worse with women. They will put pictures of themselves when they were all dressed up and makeup to the max for some event... Hair done and everything. Then you show up for the date and you think it is a different person. Just had that happen to me 2 weeks ago.

[WhiteSteve]

This seems to be pretty standard practice. I more hear from guys complaining that the women use pictures from 15 years and 20 pounds ago, lmao, but I’m sure it’s a two-way street. People are probably trying to get their foot in the door and wow someone with their personality, and they’re trying to draw more interest by misrepresenting themselves with old pictures. At the end of the day, it’s sad, because people are clearly insecure about themselves.

[Lionman95]

I´d say because they want to show off the pictures they look best on. Some guys might think they look better with her and in their current state and don´t want to be viewed as unhealthy or are insecure about because they are losing their hair earlier than they expected.

[BoopBoopBeep]

For the same reason women do the top down at arms length head turned looking at the camera to hide their double chin, show off their cleavage, and hide (most of) their gut. That's not even creative anymore, and they've ruined that pose for fit women, because as soon as we see that we just assume obesity and pass.

[fonduegirl]

They are not going to find an authentic date if they keep lying. And no, it's not the same thing as a woman posting her pictures with filter and makeup on. Get fucking real.

[magiusX26]

"get fucking real" y'all first. because it is exactly the same reasoning (mostly) . to make one's self look better/vanity.

[DummyThiccFeraligatr]

Both behaviors are lying and misrepresentation.

[magiusX26]

@feraligatr correct

[fonduegirl]

If a man is dumb enough to believe my real eyelids are golden,
Well — he's just dumb. No surprise there.

[Anonymous]

Same reason women do the same or use filters on their pics. Same reason women use fake nailed, fake eyelashes, makeup to cover up acne or scars, lipstick, etc. To try to impress people so they have a better chance. Lol double standards from anon1903 saying it’s not the same.

[zagor]

Probably the same reason girls use airbrushed pics that look nothing like they really do. I actually had a date with a girl like this, and then she had the audacity to complain I looked older than my pic (it was about 4 years old and due to laziness I hadn't updated it).

[Blueeyes81]

Same reason a 45 year old woman says she's 30. People think if they are just giving a chance then it won't matter they lied.

People are delusional.

[GoodGuyBreakingBad]

I always use my current picture and no older pictures because I don't want a girl to get the round around. Also, I don't go on dating apps.

[Adam1978]

Because they don't go around taking selfies all the time and simply don't have pictures of themselves.

[inhua]

same reason why women use wigs, makeup and filters but sure, only men are incapsulated by looks right?

[boggboss]

Same reason women will use pictures when they was skinnier lol we all like to present our best self even if thats false

[Mangospacho]

Just in case they start aging in reverse. Just imagine if the guy you thought was going to be middle aged and bald turned out to be a much more youthful guy with a full head of hair - imagine how disappointed you’d be.

[OfMiceandMen]

Because dating apps are a place where honest people go to meet each other... ya right!

[sheikalana]

They're insecure and that's also called catfishing.

[magiusX26]

under your rules in this opinion, then most if not all women on said apps are also catfishing then. only ones that mite not be are the ones using zero make-up/wigs/lashes/filtets and such.

[Yannishka]

It's their version of make up and filters. Just video chat with them and problem solved.

[CAPLOVE]

Because they are afraid of rejection and want to go back to the good old days

[Apple1996]

Cuz they haven't aged well and are too embarrassed to post a up to date pic

[TheSpaceGnome]

How do you know it's from their younger days and not a current pic? I still look the same today as I did at 14, and I'll be 40 in a few years.

[CuriousMufuxka]

Why do women continue to fall for this shit? Why are you even on dating sites? You're a woman! You have great features that brings men coming like a zombie invasion.

[poetic_pisces]

Because some have insecurities like all of us

[Jazzy54]

Perhaps they think they look more handsome in old photos. 🤷🏽‍♀️

[Sparkie460]

They are being dishonest. You think he looks like his picture but when he shows up he looks totally different

[DummyThiccFeraligatr]

I try to use pictures that are no more than 2 years old, unless I was doing something exceptional in the older photo (s).

[DextroShade]

The same reason that women will use various filters and the infamous MySpace camera angle, as well as younger pictures.

[In_Trance]

For the same reason women use filters and makeup

[Anonymous]

Same as using filters to look good and to attract mate.

[Pixiebih]

Better question is why do they keep lying about their height

[Anonymous]

For the same reason that every woman on dating apps over 40 is either Asian, 20-30 looking and in phenomenal shape. I had no idea how many Asian women resided in midwest America.🤡😆😆😆

[peedy]

Oh my God
You actually think dating apps are real and not a trap to get your info and your money
Dating apps are fake

[peedy]

They do the same thing to men oh look at all the young beautiful women just 5 miles away that would fool a lot of people in big citys but where I live the only thing 5 miles away is wide open prairie
Their system is designed to pray on loneliness to draw you in and take your money
Your better off doing it the old fashion way get/go out and meet people face to face

[shades777]

i use current and younger pics, as it shows off different styles, im a man its not like I have zillions of pictures like women do

[LiamJHayden]

The same reason women use pics that were 10 years and 40 lbs ago.

[Pohjolan]

Same reason some women use filters.

They consider themselves to be ugly.

[Anonymous]

Assumably for the same reason women use 10 year old pictures from when they were thinner, prettier, etc
Or use filters.

[SxcSierraa]

Women do that too lol, dating apps are a scam for both genders inu opinion

[SxcSierraa]

In my *

[Anonymous]

Most of my photos are old because I don't take any pictures of myself. But they all show my hair loss.

[Anonymous]

Same reason women post old pictures of when they were thinner.

[Turkishgirlhere]

İn my opinion they are liers

[Anonymous]

Why do men use dating apps at all?

[Vegasrunner]

@anonymous Good way to increase your numbers. Women are just a numbers game and dating app helps create more volume it's a great lead source.

[es20490446e]

Won't be easier to choose men in real life?

[EpicSnail]

We identify as not bald

[boobliker]

same as women with paint

[BarryLiverstone]

To appear more attractive

[Twalli]

Because they look better

[Anonymous]

The irony is strong in this one.

[101mzsora]

To pull you in