So most people have an idea of what makes a guy a loser but what makes a woman a loser?

[Jersey2]

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[Anonymous]

What ever someone does is there personal life whether productive or not is none of my concern. You have zero right to call anyone a loser if:

• they are financially independent doing legitimate work
• they aren’t harassing you
• they aren’t hitting on you when made it quite obvious you aren’t interested
• they aren’t actively supporting an ideology that directly insults and harms your existence. For example anybody who believes and openly supports something as asinine as “critical race theory” is a complete loser pos in my opinion. That’s a blatantly racist ideology and I don’t care what spin you put on it. However I’m not going to call anyone who votes democrat a “loser” despite being absolutely disgusted with the Biden administration

So unless that person has done things to harm me personally or blatantly supports a radical cause then I may not like their lifestyle but I won’t go around calling them a loser.

by the way I am involved with a public speaking group and there is a married woman who also attends and is 15 years my senior, overweight and not exactly a Jennifer Aniston. However she has a not so subtle crush on me.

She has absolutely zero chance obviously. Zero. But I am not going to call her “a loser” just because she feels attracted to me. It’s awkward yes but I bet you a million bucks that 80%- 90% of younger woman was dealing with an unattractive man in the exact same scenario wouldn’t hesitate to call the older man “a loser” and a creep despite him not doing anything threatening.

Women are much more judgmental of men when it comes to labels from my observations.

[KrakenAttackin]

Let me realistic and state the obvious. It is SO much easier for a female to NOT be a "loser" than for a man to not be considered a "loser". Women have only to not make (too many) bad choices. Men have to not only make good choices but work their asses off, consistently, reliably, for decades; to not be considered a "loser".

[Opinion Owner]

@KrakenAttackin and women take this dynamic for granted.

To not be considered “a loser” as a woman you only need:

- Keep yourself in shape and look the best with what your born with.
- Work a job that makes enough to get by. Nothing special and you don’t have to be prominent, rich or famous
- Not be too psycho.

But even that above is too much to ask for many women. BBW women don’t want to put the effort into getting in shape. So instead they put together giant pity parties i. e. “fat acceptance moment”. Women still look to men for money. Either it’s dating/marrying a rich guy and if that’s not possible they want hand outs from the government. And last but not least the mental instability of some we women (Oprah’s “your truth”) is getting absolutely ridiculous. The lions share of the metoo movement was about trashing men over mental issues.

[KrakenAttackin]

Exactly my point.

[ManOnFire]

Trying to use guys for free meals or buying her shiny shit.

Calling themselves 'Digital creators' or 'Entrepreneurs' on Instagram just to post selfies or other basic bitch posts.

Sleeping with managers to get ahead on the job.

Trolling/bullying people on the Internet with no profile pics because they are cowards who feel bad about themselves.

[Yannishka]

I just come from a question where someone believes that having no car makes a man a loser. What makes someone a loser is someone who does something I really dislike in a person or see as an unhealthy way of thinking or living.

For example because I keep seeing this question come back... my penis is x size, is this good?
I think if you're like 16 and under it's okay to be wondering these ridiculous things. But some of these are older like hitting 30 and I am shocked and disappointed. To me, that is a loser.

Another user here who is now probably banned. "What religion are you? Not islam? YOU ARE A DOG, A DEMON, ..." this comment has been watered down. But someone crazy like this? Yeah, another loser.

Having a car makes a man Charmistic? A loser point of view, I feel. Like she's never met an asshole with a car.

Idiotic ways of thinking or going through life. Sometimes it's funny, but mostly it's just sad.

[OldWomanBySoul]

1. Boss babe 💅😘 (that's just my personal ick, MLM babes and all that is just... no... I'm sorry 😭)

2. Women who find cheating "cool" or something to be proud of

3. Being a "pick me" and I mean it in the most literal way, puts other women down to make herself look better Infront of guys etc.

4. One commenter said going on dates just for free meals and I absolutely agree, it's awful especially when the person you are going on a date with isn't in the richest person in the world either

[DaveJord]

I am not sure; I never dated a true winner. But I think I will know if I ever find one.

[KrakenAttackin]

With women, the line between winner/loser is merely how successful her strategy is. There are hoes making serious coin on OF.

[CrimsonAngel09]

I guess women like me who like gaming and prefer going to historical sites over a club or anywhere loud.

Oh and not wearing any skimpy or skin tight clothing.

Like in summer I wear guy shirts and capris. No shorts, tanktops, or any tops that show cleavage. Besides, guys have the best shirts such as from video games and bands. Don't wear high heels either, look uncomfortable as Hell.

Clumsy too.

[Jersey2]

Honestly, you simply sound introverted, not a loser. :)

[CrimsonAngel09]

Oh I know I'm introverted lol. In Middle and high school I wore a hoodie everyday because I felt more hidden from the people around me.

[noemiii]

Let’s be real, “losers” are only people doing things that are undesirable, but are unattractive doing it. While a girl who likes books, anime, video games all of that who is unattractive might be labeled a “nerd” or whatnot, a girl doing the exact same thing who is attractive it’s automatically cool.

Same with men. Loser is only reserved for unattractive men doing undesirable things, or just straight a*hole, it depends on which sense it’s used.

[ManOnFire]

True points.

[TheSpaceGnome]

I'd still call the attractive girl a nerd, but then I think nerds are cool. So on top of your point, even the labels are completely subjective, just like "being a loser" is.

[noemiii]

@TheSpaceGnome Very true. I forgot nerd became less of a derogatory term in current years though, lol.

[LaFemmeFatale_1]

I believe loser is a person - who fails to learn.

We all make mistakes, awful mistakes sometimes, but if you keep making the same mistakes, not learning on your past experience- that’s the only thing that makes you a loser and I try my best not to be that.

[4ngelic]

pretty much the same things that would make a dude a loser: bad social skills, no or barely any friends, old virgin/single for a very long time, dressing badly, bad hygiene, being overweight/unattractive, geeky hobbies, no life, poor and too old for that to be normal, etc

[Extraterrestrial1999]

Why would having no friends, make someone a loser? How come people can't be single by choice

[Valso]

Loser for one man is a treasure for another. In today's terms my ex was considered to be a loser by most men back in the days when I met her bc she never wore any makeup, never had any GPUs in her boobs and generally never made herself look like a plastic doll and also wasn't very social, meaning that she had little to no friends. But to me she was never a loser, she was a natural in every term you could think of.

All those twerking silicon-based plastic dolls who don't even look human anymore - to me they're the losers.

[RavVid]

Good question. Guys tell you what they are. Girls tell you who they are. Facts on one side, image on the other.

There doesn't seem to be a loser position because it can just be said she is a good mother even if she isn't.

I tend to think if society ever does see a woman as a loser it would be if she was a dead beat mom. Most men and women would disapprove of that. Especially if she deserted her children.

[Adam1978]

It's in many cases the same as men, being fat, smoking, taking drugs, doing crime, being a prostitute, ie having to sink so low that you sell your body for money. So includes other sexual services like only fans and escorts. No matter what amount you bring in doing it. Being the towns bicycle. Ie everything about being a loser is what destroy your appeal to attract partners.

[inhua]

body count

the higher it is, the more questions can be asked as to why no one wanted to commit to her and instead use her for sex and recreational purposes only

[Billlewis]

Guys don't get to decide whether a woman is a loser or not. Women have the decision making power to decide whether we're losers. This is my opinion only.

[Billlewis]

I think it's very simple -- if you can have sex with a beautiful woman on a fairly regular basis, you're an alpha male, and if you're not able to seduce an attractive woman and get your dick inside her, then you're a loser.

[Fuentes]

Theirs a woman user here who is an women incel and uses words like "giga chad" and weird stuff and lies about where she's from even though she made a post saying she's from there. If you see her you'll see that's an actual femcel on here.

[Guccigabbana18]

No such thing as a 'loser." Usually the people who call other people losers are the real losers.

[Vikkrram]

One who never appreciate others feelings , and one who always judge a guy without even having any conversation.

[Quackthulu2]

A loser is a person who gives up and complains about how hard it is whenever they are faced with adversity. Gender isn’t a factor in that.

[HighValue]

Drugs, promiscuity, untrustworthy, hypocritical can all make someone a loser, whether they are a man or woman.

[KrakenAttackin]

High body count, lots of tattoos/piercings, uses drugs, children out of wedlock, no motivation, no common sense.

[Thatpearl26]

Probably someone who doesn’t take other people’s feelings into account.

[Simslover92]

Rachel Berry from Glee is a good depiction of what a female loser looks like.

[exitseven]

Somebody with little education with no ambition that just hangs out with guys, sleeps until noon, has string of minimum wage jobs and drives an old beat up Camaro with a pile of fast food wrappers on the floor of the passengers side.

[DextroShade]

Being fat
Being a single mother
Being a whore
Being covered in tattoos or piercings
Being never-married after 35

[Amy10223]

Single Mothers can be super people as well. I wouldn’t put them
In that group.

[Amy10223]

Also, not married after 35? Why? Maybe the person never met someone she liked enough to marry.

[DextroShade]

@Amy10223 men don't want to raise kids that aren't theirs. The guy living in his parent's basement at 30 getting high and playing video games all day might be a swell guy but you aren't going to date him.

[DextroShade]

@Amy10223 if you are over 35 and you are not married, you are a leftover woman. You are what is left. Men know there is likely something wrong with you.

[Amy10223]

Dextrose shade —( men don't want to raise kids that aren't theirs.). That’s where the lady knows this guy isn’t for her. If a man wants to be with you, children from a past marriage is not a problem for them.

[Amy10223]

That’s true about some women past 35. That’s not true for all of them, but people generalize s say that she’s got something wrong. I know many women—/ not married and over 35— who either lost their past boyfriend to some tragic event— or just never met the right person. In my experience, if I didn’t meet a good enough person for me, I’d rather be alone than marry for the sake of being married.

[Jltakk]

If she loves drama. If she expects others to read her mind.

[ManOnFire]

I absolutely HATE women that love drama. I literally think it's just wicked to be that way.

[LiamJHayden]

Do people really care what random people think?

[Chthou95]

A woman that rides the cock courasel and then complains later on that no men want to date or marry her. That's a fucking loser

[Shy_Steve]

Usually it's when you never see her with anyone else that much.

[Anonymous]

We all are losers.. winners are the ultimate loser

[Jersey2]

How might that be?

[TheSpaceGnome]

A loser is any person who doesn't have what they want in life and has no way of obtaining it.

[IceCreamSandwich]

I thought it was the same things?

[Anonymous]

Most people have an idea of this too: being unattractive and with a poor personality.

[stepyo99]

Being a feminist.

[lorenzomichael]

Having a loser boyfriend.

[Billlewis]

@lorenzomichael That's an excellent point; I never thought of that.

[lorenzomichael]

I'm a friend of the community brother just trying to help.

[In_Trance]

Same things

[grega239]

Having an OF