What is the most important thing that guys should understand about a girl, and it seems like they do not understand or get about women?

[coolbreeze]

[MusicMayhem]

Not to take everything they say so literally and respond so logically to them. E. g. if she says she's having a girls night out it doesn't mean that half the time. Think about it. If she didn't want to be approached by guys do you really think she'd go out to a bar/club? She could have a girls movie night at home instead. She's just weeding out the guys that aren't confident enough to push past that shit test.

[Slim57]

Just don't even comment about weight, or if she shows you old pictures don't comment

[saeyamazaki]

I think that we’re pretty sensitive about certain things. For example, I get touched when my boyfriend says I gain weight, I suddenly feel conscious so I feel like with certain things they should be careful about what they say and stuff. If it makes sense?

[CharmingKevin]

Agree, in some ways, I feel that communication skills are critical in everything we do coupled with knowing the character of person of interest we are with. For instance, I might phrase my words this way, "hey honey, I realise I need to get myself fitter to handle my "growing" baby, so I resolve to do some serious workouts this evening to burn some fat and tone up my curves... for you, you know. Come join me for the workout, it's gonna be fun both of us getting sweaty and staying in shape. What do you say? "

[derek2017]

It all comes down to being honest, if I told you something that upsets you, you should come to me and say "what you said to me back then it really was upsetting to me" and from then on I'll know not to do that again so be honest if you want guys to listen to you!

[saeyamazaki]

exactly!! That’s sooo much better to hear!!

[Cynicaldreamer]

Just because we're nice, friends with you, or talk to you, does NOT mean we want to date you, like you, or sleep with you!

Believe it or not, sometimes we really do just want guy friends and nothing more.

[CLASSYMUTT]

Got some "Nice guys" ay? 😂

[derek2017]

Well if you really are friends then you are supposed to like each other or else why bother making friends? what you're talking about isn't friendship it's about objectification you need an object that will listen to all of your whining and comfort you without wanting anything in return or borrow money to you that's not what a friend is about...

[lightbulb27]

I'd like to believe it, I think it is more the guy is not conveying what is attractive to you. If he did, you're emotonal mind would see him diff and the vibe kicks in. Else, he wouldn't be a friend. Ever fantasize about a guy you freindzoned?

[Cynicaldreamer]

@lightbulb27 Hmm, believe it or not, I have tried to date guys that were my friends in the past- by that I mean I told them I liked them and would date them, but they friendzoned ME. So it goes both ways actually- guys can friendzone females as well, lol.
But I don't really "friendzone" guys- we're just friends. He can get out of it at anytime if I deem him interesting or someone I'd like to get to know. The problem is by that point, I guess he's assumed we're just friends or doesn't want more.

[lightbulb27]

I getcha, there's a fine line here. I tried to date and it didn't work, and they friends. I've had many female friends, but those sparks are there. They years later would confess to more feelings. I think there's often times potential. e. g. if you were last 2 people on planet... I think you'd hit it off:) But given many, there are better options. my 2c for what it's worth... not even a piece of gum... lol!:)

[derek2017]

You didn't read what I said...

[SammyGurl]

Don't talk to us or treat us like you do your guy friends, we're a little, well a lot softer emotionally than you guys. We sometimes get our feelings hurt when a guy kids around or embarasses us especially in public. I've watched how my brothers act with each other and their friends, I know I'd never like being treated like that. So if you want my attention treat me with respect and like a girl! Make her feel special, like she's totally worth the effort! When she says something, listen then remember what she said, especially if it's about something she likes, her fantasy of how she thinks a guy would treat her if he loves her. Then sometime later after she's forgot she told you, try to do or remind her what she said. You'll get extra points for it, because she knows you listened to her. Sometimes, she just wants you to liste, then don't judge or say a thing! If she lets you into her heart and tells you one of her deepest secrets, or she tears up telling you something about her or about you, she might just need a hug and to be held close for a while. Sometimes we're emotional about the dumbest things, we can't even begin to tell you why either, our hormones wreak havoc with us at times. We want you to be understanding and never, ever ask her if it's that time of the month, that's the absolute worst insulting thing you can say to her. You may think it, you may wonder, but keep it to yourself please! We need a hug, and to be held close more than we need you to try to fix our problems!

[BlackDawn]

What you may think is considered acceptable behavior, can make us afraid.
A ride home after a bar run can be a kind gesture, but it's also how some girls get kidnapped, raped or killed.
It doesn't matter if you mean well, but it's the possibility of it happening that gets us.

[derek2017]

Well it's not gonna happen because he's going to go to jail... and believe it or not guys are really afraid of that!

[BlackDawn]

It happens daily dude.
But yeah I don't doubt my dude. False accusations are a thing. As are real ones and nobody sane wants jail time.

[LonelyIntovert]

@BlackDawn Would, I be falsely accused because, I'm ugly and a woman would regret being with me?

[BlackDawn]

I doubt it unless she was a complete and total piece of shit to start with

[Baranovel01]

I'd say that a girl needs to know that you love her. She wants to hear that, she wants the boy to be caring... And last but not least - girls LOVE gifts. It doesn't need to be anything too expensive, it could be a little flower, poem, something small and cute... We tend to adore these lovely gestures and having something small that reminds us of our love is very nice

[derek2017]

Look a need for constant validation is a result of not trusting your partner, you should establish a relationship based on trust and love for each other not one of testing and validation

[Baranovel01]

I agree that both extremes are very bad. People shouldn't need, as you said "constant validation", but also when in relationships it's necessary to act like in one, so showing the feelings is a go from me 🤗

[lanabug]

In a relationship, you should let her know that you love her. Dont be afraid to communicate and Express yourself emotionally. Make her feel like a queen and like she's the luckiest woman alive. Outside of a relationship, let the girl know your intentions before getting to know her because a lot of us will always think that most of y'all are just trying to fuck. Compliment girls on their outfit and or non sexual body part (s). Be honest and direct with us.

[derek2017]

That's fair actually...

[CharmingKevin]

Yes, Absolutely!

[NearlyNapping]

Don't expect her to think like you. If it's important to her, then it should be important to you. Just because you think it's unimportant, doesn't mean you should write it off and ignore her. Listen to her, and be sincere about it.

[derek2017]

Yeah but she also needs to fo the same for me for example if it's important to me to work out and eat well I want it to be as important to her as it is to me and I want her to help me like preparing me meals after gym or at least not make fun of guys that have muscles and understand that it's important to me to work out and become big!!

[CharmingKevin]

Guys should allow girls to be themselves, respect and support their confidence, mature actions, space and privacy. It ain't easy trying to dissect everything a girl says or does but it is easy to be too prematurely become judgmental about a girl without putting in much efforts to build trust between her and oneself and communicate openly and caring with her to find out what she is thinking of/saying/doing.

[derek2017]

Well girls should be a little more open and communicative for that to work!

[CharmingKevin]

I think it takes both to get a smooth relationship working. And traditionally (am being tilted towards old school), the man has to at least do what he can to provide an enabling atmosphere for his lady to reciprocate, just my opinion. Life is a continuous learning process, depending on how hungry one is for successful relationship.

[derek2017]

Look I can't do all of that for her if she can't communicate with me I don't want to put effort into figuring out what she wants! If she wants something I'll provide it for her as long as she tells me exactly what she wants

[CharmingKevin]

Love is mutually sewn both ways, both have expectations and sometimes or quite often, polarising expectations. If both wish to remain in a workable relationship, both need to find some ground in the mid way, he gives some, she also gives some.

[RainbowSmile]

She wants you to notice the little things about her that make her unique and she wants to be told those things. Also just because you are now in a relationship doesn’t mean you should stop trying to flatter her/make her feel special but just tell her once a day you love her so much, randomly telling her she is beautiful or some other genuine compliment will make her feel really appreciated.

[thegirlfromthething]

Not every girl wants to hop into bed right away as much as you might. Take the time to get to know her and learn how quickly she wants the relationship to progress instead of asking for nudes or feeling her up before you’re even exclusive.

[sassygirl13]

Women can be really strong and independent yet they still want the guy that will allow her to be vulnerable without judgment

[derek2017]

I can do that she can be whatever she wants as long as she's vulnerable to me and I won't judge her for it, she can even be my submissive if she wants I'm still not gonna judge her!!!

[sassygirl13]

A women will feel safe with such guy and can show him her whole personality

[JSmuve]

If a girl likes you enough, she'll do practically anything for you. As soon as she stops doing those things, she's found another guy, but she won't tell you about him and she'll expect you to figure it out on your own.

[LadyAvon]

Do not try to scold or shame her or act gruffly when she’s expressing emotions. Just listen and comfort her when she’s sad.

[derek2017]

Yeah but what about when im sad? Will she comfort me? or will she make me regret that I comforted her?

[LadyAvon]

She should comfort you too

[LonelyIntovert]

A woman has to be attracted to you and you have to have consent from her before trying anything, and women dont owe guys anything.

[LonelyIntovert]

Be tall, be good looking, dont be awkward or weird.

[cykasenpai]

Not true. You can try a lot of things without any clear consent and it will get you to bed more often than doing nothing.

[LonelyIntovert]

@cykasenpai no dude you need clear consent from a woman.

[LonelyIntovert]

@cykasenpai unless you're both drunk and you hookup

[LonelyIntovert]

@cykasenpai I know dude, I'm a ugly short weird ginger, I would try anything with a woman.

[LonelyIntovert]

@cykasenpai besides, I would be rejected as soon as a woman took one look at me

[cykasenpai]

One girl I was with kept sliding away when I tried to escalate, so eventually I pinned her down on her bed and just went for the kiss. After that it was a landslide. Had I said "well she's backing off and has never given me a clear consent signal" we wouldn't have been at my place the next week.

Consent and sex is not a linear, logical system.

[derek2017]

@cykasenpai yeah man I totally agree 100%!!!

[LonelyIntovert]

I wouldn't ****

[WhoDatGuy]

Stop putting them on a pedestal. Thirsty cucks ruining it for everyone

[derek2017]

Yeah man I totally agree!

[Rogzi]

That girls aren't any more valuable than what they earn from you.

[derek2017]

That's fair I guess... but only if she's a golddigger

[sasukeuchiha7]

Probably don't take them for granted. Stop putting them on pedestals and when they say no the leave.

[btbc92]

Women hate being lusted after and cat called. Stop assuming all is the same.

[Breeeeeeeeeeeee]

That she has emotions. She wants affection

[derek2017]

Well guys also have emotions and it's really hard to pretend they don't to make you happy you know... you don't know how painful it is!!!

[derek2017]

@xccccccxwc what? no!!!

[derek2017]

Im not a fucking pedophile!

[Breeeeeeeeeeeee]

The post was “most important thing that guys should understand about a girl...” so I was answering that. It didn’t ask about guys

[Anonymous]

That nobody wants them, they should take their dicks & blast off to Mars lol

[derek2017]

Yeah most guys don't want you either they're called mgtow!!! so you should blast off to venus!!!

[CLASSYMUTT]

Lmao, enjoy your future of cats and vibrators

[derek2017]

@CLASSYMUTT hey I only reacted that way because she was rude!!

[Opinion Owner]

I would prefer Living on Venus with cats and vibrators

[derek2017]

Then go live on venus none of my business you're rude and a horrible person anyway and the world would be better of without you

[Opinion Owner]

No, world would be better without people like you, like you as in -
#1 A Guy
#2 judgmental
#3 Nosy
#4 Rude

[derek2017]

Oh soso the fact that im a guy automatically makes me no good for this world? That's sexist first of all also you're all the other things that you described me to be...

[derek2017]

I don't know how anything you say makes you better than me you're still rude, judgmental, nosy and sexist you're no better than me

[Opinion Owner]

I'm being sexist, I proudly agree but judgemental? That's you dude & Nosy? Definitely you! Plus, your triggered responses reflect rudeness

[derek2017]

I disagree with that you're also judgmental and rufe to guys coming from the phrase "they should all take their dicks and blast off to mars" and I will say you're also a misandrist (man hater) from that statement

[derek2017]

Rude*

[Opinion Owner]

I'm not judgmental, that's you lol 😂 and that was just a joke honey 😝😙 butthurt much?

[derek2017]

Yeah... joke... sure... and im not butthurt im just curious to see if you can't let me have the last word (cause that would make you really immature)

[Massageman]

Girl's want respect and love first, THEN the sex will follow. This is the opposite of guys who want the sex first and then the respect and love will follow.

[Emilie_kkk]

LIKe i hate it when guys shout

[FýrdracaDócincel]

Only girls who often deserve it say things like this.

[derek2017]

Hahahahaha

[CuChullan]

That women are human beings.

[bill_towers]

She's never your Girl. It's just your turn.

[cykasenpai]

MGTOW stuff. Sounds a bit naive to me.

[WhoDatGuy]

If you looked a bit deeper then you'd see mgtow is there to protect you.

[cykasenpai]

@WhoDatGuy Fair enough - you'll be protected by never committing to a girl. But that's like saying you'll be protected if you stay in your parent's home. It's not the kind of protection I need.

Just as a sidenote, I do agree on many (perhaps most) points MGTOWs make, but I also think many points are greatly exaggerated and there's more to it.

[WhoDatGuy]

I can be committed. Just not financially.

[cykasenpai]

@WhoDatGuy I doubt you can.

"We're in this together, forever. We will persevere through all the hurdles we could possibly face. Except I won't give you a dollar. I ain't with you on that one honey."

[cykasenpai]

@WhoDatGuy The technical transaction is this: A girl commits by giving you access to her reproductive function. You commit by giving her access to your resources.

Refusal for either party to do their role is a failed transaction (aka not a valid commitment).

[WhoDatGuy]

I'd agree, that is the basis of life.
Men have have resources, woman have sex to offer.
Doesn't mean I'm having kids and my SO doesn't either and we've already agreed to never even consider marriage

[derek2017]

@WhoDatGuy I don't actually agree with that although I'm a mgtow!! men shouldn't commit financially if they want women to commit sexually, its like having a relationship with a hooker!!! You pay her money she gives you sex!!! Relationships should be based on love not fucking money and sex!!! She should commit financially, sexually and emotionally the same way you do and if she loves you she shouldn't have a problem with that and if you love her and she's a fine female who doesn't manipulate or lie then you should do the same!!!

[cykasenpai]

@derek2017 So you want to have all the sex in the world with her, but when she gets pregnant you'll leave her to her own devices. #commitment.

You have to understand - the systems that govern how you interact and partner up with women are still predicated on the assumption that the woman will become pregnant after you have sex. For you to have sex, but for her to have no part in the resources you possess, is always a bad deal for her. That's the fundamental reality underlying sexual relationships.

(When I say resources, it also includes stuff like status and access to successful genes. That's why women can seek up and become pregnant with a celebrity whom she knows will never look after her later)

[derek2017]

Im not saying that she won't have any part in the resources I posses I meant that we both should have a part in each other's resources and I certainly didn't mean that when she gets pregnant I would leave her to her own devices!! If I loved her I could never do that!! But thanks for clearing that up I didn't knew resources meant status as well sorry for the misunderstanding

[cykasenpai]

@derek2017 If you're both committed to each other resource-wise and sexual-wise that'll facilitate the deepest bond. But it's also the most risky. :) That's why it's so important to make sure u found a good girl.

[Anonymous]

We like infinite communication, feelings etc.