@WhoDatGuy Fair enough - you'll be protected by never committing to a girl. But that's like saying you'll be protected if you stay in your parent's home. It's not the kind of protection I need.
Just as a sidenote, I do agree on many (perhaps most) points MGTOWs make, but I also think many points are greatly exaggerated and there's more to it.
"We're in this together, forever. We will persevere through all the hurdles we could possibly face. Except I won't give you a dollar. I ain't with you on that one honey."
@WhoDatGuy The technical transaction is this: A girl commits by giving you access to her reproductive function. You commit by giving her access to your resources.
Refusal for either party to do their role is a failed transaction (aka not a valid commitment).
I'd agree, that is the basis of life. Men have have resources, woman have sex to offer. Doesn't mean I'm having kids and my SO doesn't either and we've already agreed to never even consider marriage
@WhoDatGuy I don't actually agree with that although I'm a mgtow!! men shouldn't commit financially if they want women to commit sexually, its like having a relationship with a hooker!!! You pay her money she gives you sex!!! Relationships should be based on love not fucking money and sex!!! She should commit financially, sexually and emotionally the same way you do and if she loves you she shouldn't have a problem with that and if you love her and she's a fine female who doesn't manipulate or lie then you should do the same!!!
@derek2017 So you want to have all the sex in the world with her, but when she gets pregnant you'll leave her to her own devices. #commitment.
You have to understand - the systems that govern how you interact and partner up with women are still predicated on the assumption that the woman will become pregnant after you have sex. For you to have sex, but for her to have no part in the resources you possess, is always a bad deal for her. That's the fundamental reality underlying sexual relationships.
(When I say resources, it also includes stuff like status and access to successful genes. That's why women can seek up and become pregnant with a celebrity whom she knows will never look after her later)
Im not saying that she won't have any part in the resources I posses I meant that we both should have a part in each other's resources and I certainly didn't mean that when she gets pregnant I would leave her to her own devices!! If I loved her I could never do that!! But thanks for clearing that up I didn't knew resources meant status as well sorry for the misunderstanding
@derek2017 If you're both committed to each other resource-wise and sexual-wise that'll facilitate the deepest bond. But it's also the most risky. :) That's why it's so important to make sure u found a good girl.
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That women are human beings.
She's never your Girl. It's just your turn.
MGTOW stuff. Sounds a bit naive to me.
If you looked a bit deeper then you'd see mgtow is there to protect you.
@WhoDatGuy Fair enough - you'll be protected by never committing to a girl. But that's like saying you'll be protected if you stay in your parent's home. It's not the kind of protection I need.
Just as a sidenote, I do agree on many (perhaps most) points MGTOWs make, but I also think many points are greatly exaggerated and there's more to it.
I can be committed. Just not financially.
@WhoDatGuy I doubt you can.
"We're in this together, forever. We will persevere through all the hurdles we could possibly face. Except I won't give you a dollar. I ain't with you on that one honey."
@WhoDatGuy The technical transaction is this: A girl commits by giving you access to her reproductive function. You commit by giving her access to your resources.
Refusal for either party to do their role is a failed transaction (aka not a valid commitment).
I'd agree, that is the basis of life.
Men have have resources, woman have sex to offer.
Doesn't mean I'm having kids and my SO doesn't either and we've already agreed to never even consider marriage
@WhoDatGuy I don't actually agree with that although I'm a mgtow!! men shouldn't commit financially if they want women to commit sexually, its like having a relationship with a hooker!!! You pay her money she gives you sex!!! Relationships should be based on love not fucking money and sex!!! She should commit financially, sexually and emotionally the same way you do and if she loves you she shouldn't have a problem with that and if you love her and she's a fine female who doesn't manipulate or lie then you should do the same!!!
@derek2017 So you want to have all the sex in the world with her, but when she gets pregnant you'll leave her to her own devices. #commitment.
You have to understand - the systems that govern how you interact and partner up with women are still predicated on the assumption that the woman will become pregnant after you have sex. For you to have sex, but for her to have no part in the resources you possess, is always a bad deal for her. That's the fundamental reality underlying sexual relationships.
(When I say resources, it also includes stuff like status and access to successful genes. That's why women can seek up and become pregnant with a celebrity whom she knows will never look after her later)
Im not saying that she won't have any part in the resources I posses I meant that we both should have a part in each other's resources and I certainly didn't mean that when she gets pregnant I would leave her to her own devices!! If I loved her I could never do that!! But thanks for clearing that up I didn't knew resources meant status as well sorry for the misunderstanding
@derek2017 If you're both committed to each other resource-wise and sexual-wise that'll facilitate the deepest bond. But it's also the most risky. :) That's why it's so important to make sure u found a good girl.
We like infinite communication, feelings etc.