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Not surprisingly #metoo bullshit is the number one voted option so far.
I know not all women got behind that crap when it all went down a few years ago. But I am disappointed there wasn’t more women who spoke out against. What were they afraid of? Especially with ridiculous disgusting accusations like what came from Amber Heard (and now Jonah Hill’s ex girlfriend).
Criticizing a movement doesn’t mean you support the true pos men out there like Harvey Weinstein. The truth is most men ALREADY hated men like that well before #metoo. But modern feminist acted like they had something to prove so they could be special.
But not all women are stupid. Some of them predicted the negative long term ramifications of that crap but why did so many stay silent when it was happening? Most women still PREFER to be approached by men. It’s sign of confidence which women are attracted to. But besides the gamble of being rejected there are much steeper risks out there for men now. Hence it should come as no surprise why far fewer men approach.
While ironically the trashy men still aggressively do this. They never cared about #metoo and women’s feelings to begin with. They only care about what they can get away with.
While ironically the trashy men still aggressively do this. They never cared about #metoo and women’s feelings to begin with. They only care about what they can get away with.
Facts. No i hate feminism. It was a tool used by "They" to destroy the fmaily structure and create men who don't have the natural warring spirit that has kept societies together. But they have perverted this into depravity and violence. Misdirected.
If I (hopefully) understood what you wrote above then I completely agree.
There will always be evil men (and evil women). But it’s not like most men were permissive and “okay” with their bullshit. Most men are naturally protective over women and we HATE the Weinsteins of the world. We didn’t need a #metoo movement to be made aware of their depravities.
However when #metoo got abused (and it did) it actually harms women. Thanks to women like Amber Herd now makes men second guess accusations. This harms the real victims out there.
We are pretty much in the same page. I was skimming, admittedly, but your salient points I am totally with you.
Thanks. I really do want what’s best for men and women.
My choice wasn’t on the list. I WOULD approach a girl on the street.
I would say good morning, afternoon or evening. Make some joke about how hot/cold it was. Then check her reaction. If I get a negative reaction it’ll stop right there.
A positive reaction and I’ll think of something else to bring up in conversation.
I will talk to anyone wether or not I have any interest in them. This is how you build confidence and learn what you can or cannot say… what works and what doesn’t.
Life is a learning experience. Take every chance to learn!
So refreshing!
"I will talk to anyone wether or not I have any interest in them."
I'll do that online but not in person, in person does not have a way to abort the conversation by leaving the chat if their personality sucks, and most people suck in my opinion so odds are high I'd need to ghost them.
"This is how you build confidence"
I already have confidence.
"and learn what you can or cannot say…"
I'm not playing those mind games, I'm saying whatever actually comes to mind when I talk to people, no filter or fake nonsense.
"what works and what doesn’t."
Thats different per person, so experience is pretty useless here.
"Life is a learning experience. Take every chance to learn!"
This I agree with, but random human interaction I've learned can be very annoying. I'll stick to learning about technology and nature and limit my in person exposure of people who aren't likeminded to as little as possible.
@TheSpaceGnome I'll stick to learning about technology and nature and limit my in person exposure of people who aren't likeminded to as little as possible.
This is the problem. I'm clearly old now but back in the day, there were no DMs to slide into and men had to approach women. Tech and social media is ruining us.
I don't use social media, its almost as bad as in person because its still not a hobby specific community. Technology isn't ruining people, its giving gamers and artists and scientists a way to meet people.
Without technology I'd basically be a hermit.
How about because it is polite to not approach someone you don't know.
What? Are serious. If someone comes to you in a nice way wanting tonspeak with you and a smile inngheornface that's impolite? You can't be serious.
that presupposition which is wrong, prevented me from risking meeting a judgmental lady.
I like being approached randomly.
Yeah, like it's not us the problem.
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It's got to be the right situation to approach. You want her to be relaxed and to have time to talk to you. Usually isn't the case on the street.
Well here in Turkey we have a woke-culture taken to a very extreme point that it can be counted as r*cist, so the thing is if a guy approaches woman and she doesn't like him and gets a little mad and raises her voice to that guy, chances are so high that he will get lynched severely and this is %80 chance but if she simply cries out for help calling this guy r-ist just because she is asked out, well %100 chance of getting lynched and if you survive you will be detained just because she accused you, and guess what in the law it clearly says " A woman wouldn't risk her reputation by calling out her r-ist so woman's claims must be counted valid" which means even if you pass 5 meters away from here and no one there to witness and there are no cameras and she shouted "Help he is r-ing me" well than you must prove that you are innocent but how can you because you are under detention kept in jail till the day you will be brought to court and also our new law says even typing "Hi" to a woman on anywhere is virtual harassment if she reports you, and you as a man can't get r'ed simply we even have official examples. So, if you love your life and don't want to get lynched and don't want to be detained and jailed don't talk to women, don't ask them out, don't reply to them, don't take them in your home nor enter their home, don't get closer to women more than 5 meters and never share a seat with women, I mean of course a woman with sane mind would never falsely accuse someone but what if she is a diagnosed psychopath walking around trying to ruin people's lives so in here talking or even approaching women is playing russian roulette one psycho women and you enjoy your full lifetime prison cell for free
Yeah, I know they like drama over there. But men aren't exactly a cakewalk in Turkey either.
I don’t know how that’s even supposed to play out. If she’s not offended or freaks out that I asked and if she’s straight and if she’s not married or in a relationship, and if she actually gives me her real number- what then? There’s no guarantees we’re even compatible on beliefs or politics or even on the same page of a basic outlook on life.
Simply meeting women is such an unpleasant experience and has such a small likelihood of success that it’s easier to just focus on things within my control.
Wow! Things have changed. People always used to hit up people on the street and directly sk if you had someone and exchange numbers..
I’m sure it still happens, but it’s a dying art.
thepostmillennial.com/half-of-single-men-avoid-approaching-women-for-fear-of-seeming-creepy
Yeah staring a woman down looking away and then staring when you think she can't see is definitely less creepy. Ugh. Can't believe WHAT I am reading.
to s, content freak, i get you, you expect her to freak, like the ugly culture, but the rest of your list, you will only discover if you ask. not say "i can't ask until i know".
@DermalPunch, Where did the article specifically state that? The jist of the article is men don’t know which behaviors can be interpreted as creepy so 53% of men just avoid all of them, including staring, which I’ve always considered creepy.
@strateguy632, Even still, seems like a waste of time going after complete strangers.
@DarkWinterNights no what I am referring to is what I experience these days. Men glancing covertly, staring but afraid to approach when it's so obvious they are interested. Even if you stare back and smile, they are still too chicken. It's sad really.
@DermalPunch, I was told by an old friend that she never smiled at guys because they always mistook her friendliness for interest. That comment stuck with me. Maybe a lot of other guys found out the hard way.
It's entirely because of the "me too" bullshit. When the risk is that some woman you cold-approach on the street is going to accuse you of verbally raping her because you dared to try to flirt with her then it's not worth the hassle.
Women are creating their own hell by acting like an attention-seeking psycho anytime someone they aren't attracted to tries to flirt with her in order to get her army of simps on social media to validate her. These women are going to wake up at 40 and realize they wasted their real life pursuing a digital and artificial life.
Wow! Who are these chicks? I men men and women piss each other off, sure, but for the most part I love men.
There was a time when I used to approach any woman anywhere that I found attractive or was interested in. I approached at Bus-stops, inside of shops, on the street or women just walking by. I remember one evening I saw a cute girl walking by and after our eyes met, I tapped her on the side saying hi. My friend was shocked.
I approached a group of about 8 girls hanging out in the street and talked to all of them. I was also approached sometimes. One day I was approached after some bad news and I was really cold, but a few days later I saw the same group of girls and approached them. They invited me to a party and gave me their numbers.
But today... I no longer approach and will never do so again. I do not date, will never marry and only look. The majority of modern women have no loyalty, cannot be trusted and approaching is risking false allegations or sexual harassment charges. It's an arrest able offense not far from my area...
1.) I'm off the market
2.) Because the only reason for me to initiate this approach is I'm physically attracted, her character, personality, etc matters to me and that takes time to find out.
So not only would I not approach like this, I've never approached like this.
3.) Historically speaking, women approach me at a high enough rate that I don't bother.
And did you view women who approached you, before being taken, as relationship material or easy pickings?
I prefer a relationship, so I've always looked at women with life partner standards. That's my default.
Now, I've also had FWBs, but there was some consistency there.
1.) We both knew what it was, FWBs from the beginning. No assumptions, we discussed it beforehand.
2.) It was never my idea. It was the lady idea from the beginning.
3.) We stopped because they wanted more
That's nice. I have no, issue approaching a guy but i have always been treated really disrespectful by men whonI approached first so I stopped.
For me it´s that I assume she´s in a relationship. It´s less the me too movement because I´m generally not into sexualized flirting or making jokes in that direction. To me no girl seems easy.
The second big problem is that I generally have a problem approaching strangers. I can´t make friends right away not only with girls but also guys. I need to get to know people since I´m an introvert in real life.
you could look at her ring finger. in relationship or christian who don't want guys yet, put ring in fourth finger ring finger.
reference opening scene in unbreakable 2000, film.
@strateguy632 not all married people wear rings. He could ask directly.
@strateguy632 Interesting I never heard of that.
I would like to build a conversation for long term... so in street maybe she busy or in a hurry...
. so I wish some walking and sitting looking and say my love towards her and really like to see her face expression, reaction and listen to her reply very carefully...
in street or road there I could loose some reply or hear her well...
so I'm not fan to approach a girl in street
Things have changed. The street was where everybody met. I'm getting old.
it's my personal opinion... thanks for your kind words
The reason will be i don't find her attractive, i don't bow down to all this feminist rubbish, if i want to approach a woman in the street or anywhere else i will. In the UK we have now have this silly law called street harassment which makes it a crime, to catcall at all times of the day or walk to close to women at night along with other things
walk too close? crazy world
@strateguy632 The feminazis are intent on criminalizing being a man, they even wanted to make staring a crime but the government refused.
In a relationship already, but even when I was not, the street was not the best place to meet women. At sports or at a language-learning event you already have something in common and you have a reason to chat.
In the street you only know her looks...
You only know her looks at the beginning regardless. As soon as you talk to her on the street, you instantly start learning about her so what's the difference?
Well, it's not impossible and I've talked to women at tourist attractions in our city or at an exhibition where they have some time. It works best with two women as they will feel safer and they also wonder which one of them you are really after.
Still, it's not my preferred way. We also want to be each other's tribe most of the time, for example expatriate managers in my city. If you are at a private party and both know the host you are not so different.
I'm always in it for the long term so I can never build true skill at picking up women. For example I learned texting at 47 (what does a green heart mean?)
So again, men whonapproach on the street are inly trying to get sex.
Yes, there could be a connection. A friend of mine is really good at picking up women, but he cannot really build an attachment and he loses interest too fast.
Now he has been with a woman for a year though, a bit on and off, and I'm encouraging him to stay with her. Well, then he told me he prefers she keep her bra on during sex as her boobs are sagging too much... Maybe he should just continue being with different women after all so there can be no long-term damage.
Wow. Is he perfect?
No if they see on and off he is just wasting her time. If he really liked her, he wouldn't care about her tits. Men like this have unaddressed pain and don't intimacy. Just basic needs.
I'm introverted , but NOT shy. To me , it's intrusive & invasive , I don't like strangers bugging me , and I know the vast majority of women HATE men approaching them randomly. Even more importantly , usually I'm going from A-B and simply want to get my stuff done , & get home as quickly as possible.
I was going to select "disrespectful" but I didn't because it has nothing to do with the MeToo movement.
Noted.
i don't approach women on the street. that simple. i don't really feel like you hear when asked 'how did you meet your wife' the response being
"oh she was walking down the street and i approached her..."
What's wrong with that?
i didn't say there is anything wrong with it
i just said that if you are looking for long term relationships (like i did) you don't generally hear people saying they meet their life partner on the street
So, you are, in essence, saying that if a man approaches a woman on the street he is only looking for sex and nothing more.
There are plenty stories of people meeting their wife or husband walkk g down the street. In mean those are the most romantic actually since you don't expect something so wonderful and extraordinary to happen walking down the street.
no i'm not saying that.
I said "I HAVE NEVER HEARD"... i literally haven't. that's my experience. this is all my opinion. i'm not stating facts. i'm stating my experience and opinions as a result of it
I’ve always been reserved. Meeting a stranger is not the most exciting thing to do. Rejection is always looming. At this point in my life I don’t want anyone else. I’m satisfied to appreciate her and walk on by.
I have to have a legitimate reason to talk to to people. Guys who just walk up and start hitting on girls while they are walking down the street are desperate horny douche bags for the most part, which ruins it for normal guys. I don't think most women would want me to approach them on the street because I don't look like a movie star. I'm short and kind of fat but people say I'm mean or scary looking. Most women around here only want guys who they find very attractive approaching them and trying to talk to them on the street. If a woman does not show some interest in talking to me, I just leave her alone.
This is so wrong. If a guy comes up to me. expressing his interest in knowing me in a nice way he isn't a horny douchebag.
This is the flipsode of men who label women that approach as easy lays and and desperate.
This is just so sad. 😢
I don't know where you are from, but these are the facts of the matter where I live. Let's say some guy walks up to a random woman on the street and starts saying something like "hey, I saw you over there and I thought you were beautiful, can I have your phone number?" Most women around here are not going to like it at all. They will want him to fuck off unless they find the guy very attractive. They are not going to be flattered and take it as a compliment, they are going to feel harassed. That's the reality of the situation here whether you like it or not.
Yes, we'll if you say that of course. Be more creative!
I am introverted and shy and never approach people i don't know.
I am married but if I was not I would be afraid she would call the cops on me.
Really? Come on.
I am very happy in the relationship I'm in and have absolutely no desire to approach another woman for anything relationship related. I would rather spend time with my girlfriend than talk to another woman.
Ok so the answer is in a relationship
Thanks🙏🏾
I'm married but I still talk to men and women in the streets or on line in stores. I'm not looking for a relationship, I just like meeting people.
Because approaching someone on the street is VERY bold and scary, and you are more likely to be rejected
It really isn't.
Well I don’t see people doing it often so…
Yeah, nowadays. I don't know what happened. It used to be the norm. I mean you expected to be approached in the street.
The most likely reason: I'm busy with something else.
Here lately it's more of a me thing than a you thing. I just don't have the time between keeping up w/ friends, jobs, side hustles, and hobbies
Bcs strangers aren't supposed to act this way. There are the right places to approach a woman instead of bothering someone minding their own business and busy heading off to finish Some shyt.
We cime from something called the human race. I thought speaking to one another was kind of like the thing we do but what do I know...
Because it's a waste of time, I might as well reach up and grab a handful of stars from the sky. Which is even more impossible since I haven't been able to see stars since I was 5 years old due to all of the pollution
to ran, content haven't, that is due to street lights that are necessary, not smokey sky pollution.
Because I don't know her and the street isn't a hobby space.
I don't want to seem interested in a person I know nothing about.
Well of course you don't know her.
Yeah thats what I said.
On the street?
Maybe because me being on the street means that I'm on my way to somewhere?
Of course you are. Have you never heard of an opportunity?
@DermalPunch
I could afford a prostitute if I was desperate for pussy.
@DermalPunch
What stops YOU from approaching a guy on the street?
@Pohjolan A woman approaching a man is like a gazelle approaching a lion. A man spproaching a woman is like a lion approaching a lioness.
I have learned from decades of experience that when a woman approaches a man, he views her as easy and will not committ. He will see her as already conquered and ready for sex.
I am looking for a husband. Men do not respect women who approach them.
@DermalPunch
You do realise that just approaching a guy is not making a move nor expressing sexual/romantic interest?
Decades of experience tells me the opposite. I feel more secure with my experience.
@DermalPunch
If you were correct then things would get pretty awkward every time a guy wants to pet my dog.
Girls generally do not want to be approached on the street.
Not speaking for me but for many it’s what they see on social media such as him being a creep and stuff like that
Because i ain't got that kinda money to waste? Lol
Don't want to be perceived as a creep or a predator
Because she's just trying to live her life. So what right do I have to disturb her peace?
Because I don't approach many women, certainly not women I know nothing about.
If she has self esteem problems and needs her ego stroked how is that my problem?
Who really approaches strangers walking by not very many
If someone is in a relationship, it is normal that they don't approach the others.
Hence why it is in the poll. And no, plenty of people in relationships acting very single.
Never approach a random woman in the streets especially from behind.
You're suppose to only approach a woman once she gives you signs she's interested.
in the old days she would drop a handkerchief so you will pick it up for her.
More just the fact that I feel indifferent to 99.99% of women I walk by.
Lol I ain’t simping @KrakenAttackin
If I were single it would be feeling like a creep
So your answer is in a relationship
Because you don't really know them. Their is some scary peeps out their.
Of course you don't know them, duh.
i would approach a girl on the street
Yes looking at you age that's when guys were cool doing that. As men get older they get gun shy.
A few of these all at the same time
Usually, no balls
At least you are honest. This is the truth. A chicknsays no, SO WHAT!
Married and scared of them
I don't want to be arrested or beat up
You are being facetious, surely.
That's really too bad. What ever happened to smiling and politely declining?
I don't approach anyone, why would I?
My wife prefers that I don't date.
Some act rude.
On the street, that's very risky.
I'm so shocked. I mean that used to be so normal.
Not nowadays. Plus women need privacy too, they must be tired of getting hit on or catcalled by guys all the time. It would be really annoying
A clever cat call isn't so bad. Especially when I have a good comeback. I mean when did fun cease?
It ceased because of all those weirdos out there
For real.
It's too hazardus now.
don’t want to come off as creepy
No point... I know she won't be interested
I left my wallet at home
My wife.
She's gonna say no if it's on the street.
Not so.
Yes, I am. Of course I don't know anything about him. No one knows anything about anyone when they first meet. Also, I'm nevwr in that much of a rush that I can't stop for 2 minutes.
I actually admire people who can cold approach a woman, not catcall, in the street. He actually has a way better chance because I see that a) he's wiling to take a risk and b) be vulnerable.
Cop out. Before DMs and Tinder men went up to women and asked them out. The skylines seemed shy about it and the assholes would be assholes about it. It's nit whether one approaches it's how. Now everyone hides behind DMs. When this wasn't an option, men approached because they had no other option.
I have two autistic children. Please try not to assume things about people. Especially, what they know and don't know.
Like I said, you will never know the difficulties like I do. You don't have autism, you don't know what it's like because you can't get inside my head and you can't get inside your children's heads.
It's just like how I will never know what a period is no matter how many women I hang around.
Perhaps. I don't see what autism has to do with approaching women. Plenty of autistic men cleaning up quite nicely in the romance department.
And I see firsthand with my son the way people exclude him because of his stims.
Yes, I understand but this is a matter of courage. Not neurology.
Simply know I’m inferior
I hope you can adjust your mindset.
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