If you could lose weight and become a bona fide 10/10 why wouldn't you do it?

[coachTanthony]

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[Cynicaldreamer]

Oh you don't have to ask me twice: sign me up!!!
I don't even have to be a 10/10, I'll take a 7, 8 even. But a fit, sexy body? Yes. Happily. I already exercise, I'm just not getting the results I want 😒

There's no reason I would say no unless there's a health risk that comes with it, or it's a short term fix (ie: I have to starve myself, and the moment I go back to my regular eating, I gain it back)

[HawkPerception]

I'm not trying to say I know what kind of workout you do or assume that you do not put effort into your workouts, but if you're not getting the results you want, I think that's usually due to the type of workouts you're doing and how intense they are.

Usually when people are looking to lose weight, what I recommend to them is trying HIIT (High Intensity Interval Training) workouts. You don't need a gym because it's all bodyweight exercises. The main reason why HIIT is effective is because all the exercises are cardio and high intensity. You burn more fat and build muscle than other workouts.

If you want me to share a workout routine that I think will give you results, I'm happy to share 😊

[Cynicaldreamer]

@HawkPerception my trainer has me doing strength training 5 days a week (each body part), along with 8-10k steps a day. He changes up my regime every 3-6 weeks.
And I have to watch my macros.

I was losing weight good, but it's been plateaued for over a month now 😑
It's discouraging lifting like a madwoman and counting every little calorie not to see results

[HawkPerception]

My biased opinion is weight training is not the most effective method of losing weight and it does tend to "plateau" as you mentioned, because in weight training you're building a bigger frame for your body and toning muscles. You're not focused on losing the weight from certain areas of the body. I know that you're doing cardio as well, but because your frame is bigger due to weight training, you aren't really losing anymore.

Just my opinion (and I apologize for throwing shade here), but I don't think your trainer has a good vision of the kind of body you want or the knowledge to give you a workout routine and diet that will give you the body you want. He probably only does weight training and basic cardio himself and doesn't really go outside of that box.

I apologize if I'm out of pocket with this comment.

[Cynicaldreamer]

@HawkPerception You made me get on my desktop to reply to this because I did not feel like typing out a book on my phone, haha
So... you may be right. I have been with this particular trainer for six months now (he is certified and legit). He keeps hammering in our (the female clients) heads that cardio will not help with weight loss, but rather strength training and diet- though he still encourages us to do some form of cardio for endurance and heart health. I told him how when I first loss weight, doing just walking and running with minimal weight training? I lost weight- but eventually it plateaued and stopped working.

So now he has me doing strength training at least 45-60 minutes, five days a week- working everything from upper body to lower body, along with core. Am I stronger? Absolutely. Muscular? Yeah.
Losing weight? Not really : It went down at first, but now the scale won't budge again. He says it's because I'm not eating enough food, and I'm consuming too much sugar and/or sodium. For reference, he's recommending the following macros for me:
*(on an active day) Protein: 140, Carbs: 165, Fat: 46= 1600 calories a day

My overall goal is weight and body fat loss while being toned- think athletic figure

[HawkPerception]

If you share your weight, height, and weight goal, I'd be happy to share a recommended daily intake or even just confirm how accurate your trainer is with his suggestion.

I'm pretty good with this kind of stuff 😊

[IslaTheWitch]

I did it... no reason not to do it. It's hell, but it's worth it.

[Miristheiss]

It takes work and discipline. Many do not have the commitment and discipline. Lots of skinny men. If all hit the gym and ate right they'd have strong, muscular bodies. Lots just aren't interested or don't have the discipline and drive to do it.

[ProbablyClueless]

It's a lot of work, and I think there are a lot of people who aren't willing to put that work in.

[el_Te_de_la_Rosa]

If my partner only cares for my body and fat percentage, I wouldn't. I have my own goal and I think this weight (maybe 2-3 k. g. more) is fine for me. I wouldn't like anyone to dictate what I should do.

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"LEAN"... started to be haunting now... 😑😑😑

[wiltingrosepetal]

Takes commitment and effort. Some people are willing to do that for a better version of themselves and others aren't. I want to gain weight but I just don't have the effort in me to eat protein-rich food, several meals, and spend money on what I eat. So yeah, it's it's based on where your priorities are

[msc545]

I am not overweight, but losing weight for most people is NOT as easy as others think. There is a lot of brain mediation that goes into the homeostasis needed to maintain a particular weight, even if it is too much weight, and changing it is not easy and often not possible based on "willpower" alone, since diet and fasting often make the person experience the same sensations they would feel if they were starving.

Th new weight loss drugs bypass this problem and are currently the best solution for weight loss.

[Levin]

It is absolutely based on willpower and the psychological processes that make up why people choose to over-eat. Which can admittedly be complicated and deep seated. And mostly the problem is people don't want to go that deep, or put in the work or effort. And they expect some external 'fixing' or some over the counter crap, which should obviously not be a replacement for our innate ability to look after our own health.

[msc545]

Spend a few weeks trying to lose weight and let's see how well you do with your vaunted willpower.

[Levin]

So you're going to have to confront your addictions, emotions and crutches and you want me to be sympathetic?

Nah, I'm not. The reason I'm not is because we probably all have our own addictions, or shall we say, our shadow side. I know how hard they are to beat cause I have my own.

Your life is still your responsibility and it is all within your hands to change. And god help the mentality of those that want those around them to 'fix' them, usually by ingesting highly dubious synthetic chemicals. You have the agency to fix your own life. Stop making excuses.

I've had to dramatically change my diet over the past few years, and have largely cut out foods I love. Better that than being sick or feeling low energy and crappy all the time. It's willpower and personal responsibility.

[msc545]

I think the reason you're in so invested in this approach is because of your desire to shame and degrade people who are overweight and can't seem to do anything about it. If you were overweight and couldn't do anything about it, I doubt you would take this position. You can romanticize dieting all you want, but this does not take into account the people that suffer because of their inability to engage in it.

[msc545]

If you think you are ingesting chemicals in the service of your diet than you were kidding yourself. Almost everything you eat has a chemical basis including so-called natural foods. But go ahead and keep buying the stuff and feeding it to yourself and doing what you think is best for you. There is an easier way, but for some reason you don't feel that it's manly or courageous to do it the easy, efficient way and would rather suffer. Enjoy your masochism.

[Levin]

I'll be honest with you, I'll shut up cause you're clearly not interested (or in denial). I'm just surprised to hear some of your views. That you can't do anything about it. That you're a victim. These are revealing in themselves. That eating healthily or exercising involves being manly or suffering. Don't you suffer through being overweight and having a body in distress? Very curious. But if you're not interested in self-reflection then obviously this is none of my business. So good luck to you either way.

[msc545]

@Levin You can do something about it. You just want to do it the hard way which will take a long time and will be very uncomfortable. I find that puzzling.

I am not overweight and never have been, but I have a lot of patients who are. Now they can use something that solves the problem with the only downside being cost.

[DishLady]

"10" comes with too much pressure and attention. Anyway, I think I'm ok as I am... spry, active and confident. I don't think I need to measure my value "by the pound" like produce.

[HawkPerception]

I do not need to lose weight. If anything I'm looking to gain a fair bit. I'm happy with the definition I have in my upper body and I'm proud of the things I can do (muscle ups, handstand pushups, used to be able to do human flags... not sure anymore). But I do want more size with the same definition. And even though I'm fit and my legs can do a lot more than they look like, I do almost look like I have chicken legs and would like more size on them.

[FearlessFlame]

This question sounds sooo juvenile.. I've meber seen anyone other than 15 year olds and incels asking such questions ("how can I be a 10", "rate me out of 10", ("what would you rate themselves out of 10").. You must have run out of ideas.

[NathanDavis]

never needed to be a 10... to be someone's 14...

[PeachyPie93]

Because I still wouldn't feel like a 10/10 I'd still feel like a fat bitch lol.

[AmyHew1tt]

There's reason why I wouldn't, if I could. Unless it meant sacrificing every other piece of my life. Also, some people look better when they aren't skinny, just saying.

[SotiCoto]

Because that is straight up nonsense. Nobody ever became a 10/10 by losing weight, only by gaining it.

[coachTanthony]

LOL like who?

[handsomelad70]

Excuse me, I'm a man. Not to appear hopelessly sexist, but is this a question largely for the ladies?

[coachTanthony]

It's a question for everyone... the photo could easily be a man.

[handsomelad70]

I'd love to lose 25 pounds or so (I'm 5'81/2",200 lb.), but TEN at age SEVENTY? No way, Jose !!!(I'm likely between eight and eight-and-one-half.)

[DrPepper12]

Because I love bagels way too much. JK I could and have dropped 30-55 lbs several times in my life. Just takes diet n exercise

[Fireguy17]

it would take more than losing a few pounds to become a 10 for me.

[jamesgoldman]

Because that comes with dating and all that malarkey

[In_Trance]

Not all people are capable of all things.
If capability is there, perhaps sense of value is not

[Wiredone]

I'd never be a 10

[OddBeMe]

It’d probably kill us non-rich fucks.