+1 yI have taken long overcrowded train rides after a week long of work, where people been unpleasant, loud, drunk, vomitted close and in front of me, to meet guys to date seriously that were just trying to charm me and get me in bed. Normal guys you see on apps, that appear okay, that seem like I could have a thing in common, who turned out to be, some of them, on top of willingly unemployed for 4 years, full of bullshit and bad attitude, told me I am not their ginger ex that they lost because they did not put in any effort. The average and decent woman is not getting approached by 1000 guys a day, and not even 1 a day. We don't go on fancy dates with top guys, because we are not celebrities or models. The things people write on forums and believe about the opposite sex is not based in reality it seems. If we are being honest, it's not even 50/50. Even 50/50 would be awesome. It's zero to little effort. And before any smartass comes to tell me i am a fat ugly woman who hit the wall, I assure you that is not the case at all
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Well said. Definitely a more grounded in reality view then Twitter and IG for sure.
It's not easy for both sides right now
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2.1K opinions shared on Dating topic. It means they want a real masculine man that is willing to pay for dates and doesn't see himself as the prize
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A man seeing himself as a prize isn't less masculine, a guy who knows his value and who developed himself more than other males around.. then indeed he is a valuable man and that makes him a prize. It doesn't mean women have to chase him but acknowledge his confidence and they shouldn't expect that guy to chase them.. playing hard to get? or you have other options? Fine then.. the door is open to you, go behind whoever you want but u ain't coming back, that's the mentality behind it and only men who developed theirselves can understand that.
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Flawed logic. How many girls dismiss decent men who really care about them for abusive assholes?
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@Sabretooth a man crying that he needs princess treatment is probably just a abuser as well 😂 I see no difference between the two
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@Sabretooth A woman who dismisses decent men for abusive assholes is a woman with poor self-esteem who thinks an abusive asshole is what she deserves. She assumes a decent guy would quickly see what she's REALLY like and will dump her, so she figures she'd better dump him first. This was done to me once after a two-year relationship which I had thought was a keeper. There is a principle of psychology that the type of person we choose for ourselves is a reflection of how we see ourselves. If a girl thinks of herself as a lowlife, she will seek out guys who are lowlifes.
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3.2K opinions shared on Dating topic. She means she wants a man that will provide for her 100 percent , she is typically a gold digger that thinks she should be treated like a princess at all times , and catered to , she doesn’t want to work and she barely wants to lift a finger , She wants a guy that will pamper her at all times , she isn’t in it for love, she is only in for his wallet kick those bitches to the curb where they belong
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Anonymous(45 Plus)+1 yIt means they want all the benefits of being a man. Well not all but a majority of it like equal pay w out having to be equally, financially responsible. So her money is her money but your money is “our” money. She has to be financially secure if you ever leave. Even though a majority of divorces come from women. If you’re not that type of man they try to shame you by saying you’re not even a man or you’re not a masculine dude. Because apparently masculinity means just accepting whatever the fuck these women want regardless of how screwed up they are. Like accepting her w her 50 body counts. But if you don’t you’re insecure, you’re not even a man. Or taking on her kids. A real man would step up according to many of them. But if you told her well you need to get in the kitchen, cook my dinner then bare 4 children for me, now you’re a misogynist lol amazing how women’s brains work, w no logic. All the comments hitting at you already that you’re not masculine for not fitting the bill for everything.
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+1 yPersonally i don't like the 50/50 relationship, i agree on paying rent and bills 50/50, i don't want to go to a grocery store and pay separate but i would like for him to pay for most of the dates (i don't require expensive restaurants it could just be a picnic), when i am with my man i want him to drive most of the time (doesn't matter ig it's my car i feel very good and safe when he drives), if i decide to go back to school i expect him to support me therefore i will support him if he decides to go to school. I want to not drill in the wall to put shelves if he is there, i don't want to carry the grocery bags when he is with me etc.
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All relationships should be 50/50 even if you’re working equally hard in your own roles
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But It's just not possible, that way women should be paid more because it's literally more expensive to live as a woman starting from pads and tampons
50/50 kills the whole meaning that you are a family with someone separate grocery shopping but living together and "don't eat my cookie i paid for it" makes me wanna puke it's just roommates and a bussiness deal so they can cut expenses on rent and bills
I think it's that whole "I want a traditional man who will pay for everything mentality"? It's awkward space where some women were raised to expect traditional behavior from men, not realizing that it was based in the expectation of a certain, often dated, set of expectations for women in return. (The 50/50 concept referring to when both partners share all the burdens of the relationship equally such as paying for dates, providing monetary support, and engaging in childcare, or otherwise organize their relationship such that both people are putting in similar amounts of time, energy, etc, even if their chosen roles differ slightly.)
Alliteratively, I've seen plays on this where people say "I don't want 50/50, I want 100/100" meaning they want both partners to put full effort into their relationship in whatever context is presented. I honestly see this as just a positive spin on the conept of 50/50, but not presenting a particularly different meaning.
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Yeah and houswives and moms were not watching TV all day or playing on their phones.
Those women worked their asses off back then - +1 y
@Summeroflove I mean, I'd assume the majority of SAHMs are actually ya know, engaged in childcare and housekeeping? If that's not the case then that's between the people in that relationship. (And let's be real, half the people in the universe sit at work and play on their phones anyway lol)
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1( a hypocritical Tradfem Antifem control freak who pretends to be submissive but is actually only submissive on there terms and only sees the world through there black and white view. they wanna stay at home while u work and stuff and virtue signal about mens rights but actually judge everybody else unrealistically.
2( a genuine traditional woman who wants to work in the house while you work more. Maybe they'll pick up a small job if they have to. Or want to. But they aren't lazy
3( they just wanna do less, expect u to doo more or r lazy.
#2 and 3 aren't bad but 1 is 3 is bad if it's laziness01 Reply- +1 y
Keep in mind if the woman is home all day she can control the house and is not actually submissive she can be fake submissive.
2.3K opinions shared on Dating topic. There's an old saying that guys think is a joke in the early phase of their life:
"a woman says to a man, what's yours is mine & what's mine is mine".
But later in life guys ain't laughing at that saying anymore.
If ya know, ya know.
00 Reply2.4K opinions shared on Dating topic. It means that they recognize that they are MUCH lower quality than the men they want and they are also lazy and selfish and don't want to contribute to the relationship nearly as much as the man. They would make a very bad partner.
20 Reply3.6K opinions shared on Dating topic. They men they want a man and not a pussy that would whine because he also want princess treatment.
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Equality, but only when it favors you lol
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@SherryBomb I'm traditional so I don't care about equality, I would have been happier born into the 19 th
Everything was so much easier and my personality would have been ways more popular. - +1 y
Traditional is evil because in traditional way men is treated as a slave. He is treated as inferior that needs to pay money for love just because he happens to be born male.
In ancient Rome slaves ware forced to provide for their masters, in feudalism peasants ware forced to support aristocrats, and so on.
Men were forced to perform a gestures of submission. Like play butler/servant that opened the door for women. You can read about this.
Next. This dehumanisation of males lead to their life considered worthless. Like on Titanic, men who tried to get in the lifeboats were shot to death, because only women were allowed to save themselves as superior beings. The few who survived where shun by society and women, like how dare they save themselves when at least one women died.
In short:
- Traditional women are evil, because they treat men as inferior cannon fodder.
- Feminists are evil, because they hate men and want to mass kill them.
The only good women are those who are not traditional enough to treat men as slaves, but not evil enough to kill men like feminists.
Anonymous(30-35)+1 yit's called selective feminism
equal when they want to and not equal when they don't want to
the power and authority of a man, the privilege and special treatment of a woman and the responsibility and accountability of a child
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+1 yI think not putting in just as much effort in the relationship as the man?
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+1 yThey don't want to go Dutch on dates. Why would they if they get approached multiple times per day?
20 Reply They want a traditional who pays for everything but they don't want to be a traditional girl.
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Anonymous(25-29)+1 yIt means women should not be expected to split the bill on dates or other expenses. The purpose of a man is to provide for a women and children. If not for that, what are they good for?
11 Reply3.2K opinions shared on Dating topic. It means they want a man, that they can use like a tool, an ATM 💲💲💲
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+1 yThe first number is the body count.
The second number is the income.
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Anonymous(25-29)+1 yThat they don’t want a man who doesn’t pay the whole bill but wants to split it and expect the woman to pay half.
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Y'all make money too, y'all are equal to us. Quit living in the 50's
Anonymous(30-35)+1 yIt means a lot of times they have a fantasy of a one sided free ride in life. ALL relationships (that work) are 50/50 even if you decide on different roles. You work equally hard in different roles
00 Reply340 opinions shared on Dating topic. It means they are weak women who see themselves as the prize and they don't deserve the man.
10 ReplyIt means they don't want to share their life equally with someone. They want to be a dependent. But, they also want to control the relationship as a total dependent. This is the type of woman no sane man wants to be with
00 Reply2.1K opinions shared on Dating topic. My guess is they don't want a transactional relationship.
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Anonymous(45 Plus)+1 yIt means they want full equality with men. Except when it comes to paying the bills.
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+1 yIt means we want a masculine man.
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Anonymous(36-45)+1 yIt means she doesn't want a partner ship, she wants to use you for your resources, and for your labor. Basically a gold digger.
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2 moshe wants to be treated like a queen and treat you like a peasant.
00 Reply It means they want a slave to exploit.
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+1 yThought it’s about who pays. Isn’t it?
10 Reply No scrubs
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+1 yThey want a guy to pay for everything.
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+1 yThat may be a 2024 narrative.
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+1 yIt means they wanna use men for free food
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Anonymous(36-45)+1 yI have no idea what that means.
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