Has the standard for men reached too high?

[Anonymous]

I was having this discussion with my friends and we agreed that nowadays we just have to have it all.

The guys that get the girls are tall, good looking, in amazing shape, have a good social media following and status, have money and a career. It’s like the top 3% of men. If you’re missing things you have to settle for way less, and little interest.

Also this is just to score a pretty broke girl.

Yeah you guys are right about that

No you’re not

[natured]

I checked your age range and it makes sense why you and your buddies would have conversations like this.
You are still young, and you have no Idea how people change...
Once you experience more, and mature more, you will understand that whatever you said is not just dumb, but very very narrow minded.
There are so many women that are independent, have a whole career going, and do not look at your wallets, do not look at your height or shape... they will pick you because you have something to offer that have nothing to do with all those shallow things that you listed.
I love my man for who he is, how he thinks and how we ALIGN, i don't care about his wallet or looks
Yes we exist
So keep your head up and don't be so narrow minded

[Cuioi]

@natured Usually independent/successful women will want a guy who is on the same level or even higher.
Tbh, I don’t think the fact women are increasingly independent makes any difference, it makes it worse particularly as they are becoming more and more selfish.
Women need a guy they can respect so you typically have to be better than her.

[Makeushiver]

Not even close. Men., like women, can't be graded on their parts or- maybe they can be assigned some sort of value but then your just beef & a paycheck. Sorry, the hot girls are with someone unique, who listens to them more than he brags about his $ or his reps. He's definitely funnier because humor is about the only non-negotiabe trait that I've seen. If you believe you've summed up- for better or for worst- those assets that will guarantee the woman of your dreams will materialize & fall in love with you, I'm glad I live in a more complex universe. This sounds like its a put down a little bit but I don't mean that to be the case. Everyone wants to live in the world of X amount of looks + Y amount of money +Z amount of weight lifted+ Man of Every Woman's Dreams. Life, women, men- no one is built that way. The perfect woman wants to have enough space in your mind for her to occupy as well and ytou have it mostly filled with you

[Avicenna]

There have always been a certain amount of hypergamous women. What’s missing from the discussion is whether these women are even relationship material in the first place. I think they aren’t, and if that’s the case, who cares if their expectations are unreasonable?

[Ez-Bri-Z_v2]

Wow the "top percentage of men" changes so often with you people. Now it's down to 3? Soon it will be just a solitary guy who gets to share all the women in the world.

[Anonymous]

Does it matter? To me it's comical. It's amazing how many ran through 40+ women approach me now saying they never realized what a catch I was. I let them do their little song and dance before telling them, "thank you but no thank you". I'm quite certain most of them never learned anything. And that's a shame. But that's also life. Not everything has a happy ending.

[LiamJHayden]

Most of the problems guys have are self-created. They use a laser instead of a wide net, so when the one girl they spent weeks working on is not interested, they get bitter and decide it is not worth it. Instead, they should just cold appraoch and ask one lady, then another, then another, etc. Do not take the rejections to heart, and eventually the yeses will come.

[Pohjolan]

It is too high for some men.

However women don't have a obligation not to be in a "alpha harem" or go for fuckboys.

Its a competition that is getting harder but participating is voluntary.

We are moving to a post Christian society dating scene.

[Anonymous]

don't forget you have to be a Trump-hating pro-abortion Democratic liberal too

as if the physical, financial standards weren't already bad enough

[Maybe_Maybe_not]

Keep discussing excel sheets I'd say, no problem, it will get you a job in bookkeeping XD

[MisterWack]

Standards for guys haven’t gotten high or low. Same standard that there was.

[normalice]

Men tell each other the standards are high but women in real life are pretty thirsty.

[exitseven]

Yes, it is a hard standard to attain, especially if you are not over 6 feet tall.

[In_Trance]

No it hasn't

[Anonymous]

Hmmm maybe