Our society seems to be fixated on this image and standard of gender roles and what people are supposed to be like. However there is very objectionable and unjust ideas going around particularly about men. Men are criticized, judged, and labeled so strongly by women, and yet we are silenced for speaking out about it. The inequality of the matter is evident. Women have it so much easier in the dating world. If a female has trouble dating, there's an entire pity party waiting to listen to her complain that she only matched with 4 ugly dudes, and guys are so shallow. Meanwhile men are literally committing suicide 3x more than women because we can't get so much as a single match on dating websites, or even in person. We're even criticized for approaching in some cases (this has happened to me before) mean mugged, and given obviously fake sympathy. Instead of being comforted for our pain, we're criticized for it, as if there is some universal law that men cannot have feelings. All a woman has to do to get attention is be sexy. LITERALLY! Some women don't even have to lift a single finger. Meanwhile men are expected to be professional bodybuilding thug gangbangers that are both sympathetic and aggressive with a 6 figure paycheck. I get it. Women want a man that can protect them and pay the bills. A relationship is pretty much a necessity for a woman, but it's also a necessity for men too. It's difficult to survive on your own, and we do get lonely. Some of us are actually trying to become better people, and have interests besides joining a gang, killing people in other countries, and throwing a football around. Some of the best films, ideas, music, and artwork has been created by people who have defied traditional gender roles. Not everyone is going to be as good as everyone else. Can we please stop holding such high standards and expectations for what we envision our partners to be like?
Are women's standards for men too high?
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Anonymous
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Yeah I do think standards are getting high. Don’t fret though because you can’t choose who you fall inlove with. I get the impression men are picky and due to a past of rejection I can stand behind that but I do see how woman expect men to have money, cars, and height, and a jawline and etc. its not nearly as bad as men wanting big ass and tiddies though I do blame men for the shitty beauty standards woman have. Man want “curves” but like I don’t have any curves and I’m not slim thick so I don’t know what to do, but anyways. i agree woman are getting very picky. its kinda fucked up that most girls just completely cancel short men as invalid to even date which is jacked, but men don’t cancel skinny girls or small breasts girls and such so it’s pretty unfair when you think about it
Yes, exactly. I can swipe through entire lists without a reply from anyone. No matter how pretty they are! It's fucking ridiculous. I realize I'm not perfect, but am I really that repulsive? Is it so wrong to ask that 1 out of literally every single woman in my fucking area at least have a conversation with me before swiping left? People really disgust me.
In some ways I think women’s standards are much too low or just misplaced in areas like attitude, behavior, and maturity. A lot of women are putting up with way too much bs in these areas.
Even professional bodybuilders can be shitty boyfriends.
That's because girls more often go for the manly badass types who are often conceited assholes. Well, they're aggressive "manly" dudes, it's what you asked for. Don't seek out a monster and complain that he's eating you alive.
You are such a hater. Leave those guys alone. Just cause you're not one, why do you trash talk about them. You think every "manly" guy is a monster, that's fucked up
Right. People that actually have a life deserve a pity party and guys that are struggling to survive in the world, earning an honest living, and scraping by are all lazy creepwads. The entire thousands of people that run our grocery stores, gas stations, restuarants, and countless other low paying jobs are just there to live in slums and serve the modern day plantation owners. I apologize, please grant me the privilege to scrap the gum off your shoes for a quarter. I need to save up for when I inevitably need thousands of dollars for neccessities such as transportation, medical services, or housing while I pretend to be happy going home to an empty house alone and eat grits and oats so I don't get fired and starve to death. Thank you for giving me the opportunity to live in this wonderful society we live in. 😊 Is that better?
@MzAsh I agree…women’s standards are too low as far as emotional compatibility and personality…and too high in terms of physical characteristics and materialism
I have seen this that even conflicting things are expected of men. Yes I understand that girl might want athletic, rich, gentle man. But I think persons expectations should be somewhat in line with what they have to offer.
I take my self as example. I admit guilty for not going for fat girl, how ever im not even near of ideal male body. So Im good if girl is somewhere around normal. Same goes on many other criteria I keep. Not expecting more that I can offer. Ofcourse when you and right one meet both will let go of some expectations.
But I have seen girls who don't work, aren't pretty nor athletic and not very gentle, but require man that would be this near perfect.
Im not saying there wouldn't be men who are guilty of similar unbalanced expectations.
You are absolutely right dude, you are telling the truth. and you know what? The truth is uncomfortable, not everyone wants the truth, some people would rather the blissful lie.
I was making 114k a year playing soccer, just when my contract was about to end and i was in negotiation with my club to sign a new one i hurt my damn knee so bad that i will be out for 6 months or maybe even more so my club won't sign a new contract with me for now. Guess what my girlfriend of 4 years did? She left me ofc. In this society we (men) we are a disposable utility, once we dont earn enough money or whatever we are completely useless especially to women.
I think the problem is the whole society has told women that they are fabulous and flawless and that they deserve everything. Their ego is so huge that they can't picture themselves being with a decent average guy, when in reality 99% of women today are inferior to the average guy. Whether it's on an intellectual or physical basis, women are behind men. I wouldn't have any problems with a woman who's a 10 thinking she dereves a guy who's also a 10. It gets ridiculous when 1s and 2s think they deserve men who are 10. And most of these women don't even realize their 1s and 2s as you can already tell by reading their comments to your question.
That's not even what bothers me. What bothers me is the stuck sluts won't even give average dudes a chance. Not a single response. Not a single date. Some don't even look at your profile, just automatically swipe with no remorse. They have life so easy. My cousin's wife bitches about me living in the house & being "lazy" at a full time minimum wage job, while trying to go back to school, & all she does is fucking house chores. If all you contribute to society is doing your own house chores, you deserve to be treated like shit. Especially if you act stuck up and bitchy everyday. Fuck society.
Yeah fuck society. But i personally don't mind stuck up bitches being repulsed by me. I think it's a good thing that they don't like me because i don't want that kind of woman in my life. If that means i'll be single, i'm okay with it.
Right. I would rather not raise kids to grow up in a fucked up world like this. It's truly sickening to watch other people party away while I am expected to go into work happy being paid slave wages. I can't even afford a house, even slaves had a fucking shack to live in.
Nobody wants my ass. A huge part of the reason I feel this way. If society is going to treat poor people like shit, then at least give us suicide booths. It would build the economy for rich people so they can build more prisons for the "lazy" employed people that have to steal to survive as soon as the smallest thing goes wrong because we live paycheck to paycheck. Oh right, you're a girl. All you have to do is blowjob your way through life.
Well I think most western people have standards that are just unrealistic and misguided. Male and female. Get back to the basics of why you want someone in your life and keep it to just that. I like OSHO's recommendations on love. Don't be come dependent on one another. It seems western love has this as its basis. Strive to be independent complete people apart from your relationship and share your lives without piling up your crap on your partner.
Women faced inequality in the US for almost 2 thirds of it's existence and is still no equal today. It's men that created laws to keep women down. And no, I do not support feminism nor am I a liberal in any way. It's simple history. Women in the US have had the right to vote for only 100 years. That's right. Only since 1920.
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Anonymous
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That hypocrisy and double standard is very well known.
All women care about is looks... more than any personality traits or even their children. such as Diane Downs, who on May 19th 1983, tried to murder her 3 children because the asshole that got her wet didn't want kids. She killed her 7yo but the 4 and 9yos survived She got life + 50 for a hot guy.
My paycheck is a lot more than 6 figures the most recent one was $0000000000000.00. More than 6 figures there, unfortunately I don't get bonuses. Yet I have a girlfriend. It took me a while, but I was single because I didn't talk to women, not because I didn't try. Be kind and courteous to everyone and girls will see that and realize that if you treat strangers like that you will probably treat people you know better.
Yes! Because the American economy is going to absolute shit, and we are too conceited as a nation to admit it. I should not be working full time at any job and be unable to afford a house or live paycheck to paycheck.
@hi_it_is_me123 Who in the hell are you and how's that hypocritical? Men date younger women. What do I want an old lady that can't have kids give me a break. Take a hike you're rude
I've seen you posting around here obviously you're a GAG Troll and believe me honey I'm Primetime fresh flesh. And any woman will be glad to have my company
In seeing women date, I often wonder if women have any standards beyond, “he took me on an actual date once...” and keep living for that moment. Any “high standards” that women have seem to exist alone within an effeminate man’s head.
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Anonymous
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Ya you have to have a 6 figure income be 6 feet tall and have a 6 inch package 666 wait I think I’m onto something here lmao
Have you ever considered actually being there for someone, and helping them become the person you want them to be? Perhaps at least going on one single date with the awkward guy who battled his social anxiety to ask you out? Or do you think your vagina tastes like cupcakes and is made out of gold?
Ok crazy, here's the thing. Lots of us have social anxiety even me, get over yourself. You sound like you wana sit at home while your wife does everything. Good luck with that one. It won't happen. 1. Grow up 2. Stop crybabying about everything. 3. Work on those social skills you dont have
This is exactly the point I'm trying to prove. We're so quick to throw men under the bus and treat them less than human, but if I threaten to jump off a bridge because of it suddenly people care for five seconds. Which is it? Am I worthless trash? Should I just blow my fucking brains out because I can't compete with 5 million other people for the same job? Or does my life actually matter?
It's horrible to talk so bad about other men. PERIOD. Leave them alone. Work on your self and learn to build up others and not tear then down. Dont try to get women on your side saying they are the bad guys. If you want to be something other than "worthless trash" work on it then. But enough with blaming other people for what you lack in life. Stop blaming women for wanting those men who can give them that life they want.
I would definitely work on it if we didn't live in a society that values people for their usefulness as a tool and then simultaneously pretends to care about people who live in constant poverty because they have little to no opportunities to make real changes in their lives. Reality check: Capitalism isn't working because there's not enough room at the top for the entire planet. If I could afford a single bedroom apartment without having to fucking move in with someone I would gladly die alone like the unattractive underachieving wuss bag that I am. This world disgusts me and I wouldn't want to raise a child on slave planet anyway. I get it, men don't deserve sympathy. We're just here to be slaves and die alone unless we look like Jason Momoa and make thousands of dollars. I apologize for being human and seeking any kind of form of love or sympathy. I forgot men have no value outside of looks or money.
You sound super bitter about the world we live in and there's no way for anyone to change that but you and they way you view it. I live in a 1 bedroom in L. A. but I dont complain. I love my life and my family. I love my hobbies and activities and I'm no where near rich. You need to stop focusing on what you can't change. My issue isn't with how much a man makes, it's how you personally and other men like you act and think about it all. Change your focus and mindset and you will be to happy to tear down others who have it better than you.
Glad someone does. I am being trashed so hard simply for stating my opinion, and seeking the tiniest bit of human sympathy. This app is disgusting. I really want to delete it sometimes.
I guess I am too much of a loser to deserve to be loved. If I adopted a son he would probably just have a terrible life anyway. & I don't need someone to take care of me, because I hate this world and would like to leave it as soon as I possibly can anyway.
Look incel. You are looking for wrong women. Every woman is different. I prefere young virgin average looking and i am ok with providing him because i am little bit dominant. Go for dominant women then
You know what? How about you and all women go fuck yourself. I don't want to raise a family in this sickening world where our society's priorities are getting haircuts and watching football while 44% of our population works jobs that pay slave wages by modern day standards. That's a real statistic look it up. I will stay alone than spend my life with asshole American bitches.
Yes. If I get my hands on some money, I am leaving this authoritarian, nazi Germany wannabe Nation. Finland or Switzerland. Where people aren't put down for being poor, or dragged off to a rape dungeon.
Nah germans are everything but nazi. These people hate themself because of their past although it is not the fault of the todays generations. I have never ever seen such nation where people are not proud of their country. So ridiculous.
& America is filled with shallow greedy shitbags. The only thing we're the best at is filling prison cells. You're goddamn right I'm not happy with this fucking country. At least I have the balls to admit that our leaders have failed us like a true American. If George Washington could see into the future to see what America has become he would probably blow his brains out.
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