What actually makes a high value man for dating and marriage today?

[KimmySchmit]

Here is my list.

1. Aged 18-35

2. Handsome

3. Athletic/muscular

4. Tall

5. Charming

6. Intelligent

7. Educated

8. Owns his own place

9. Has a nice car

10. Catholic church goer

11. Financially stable

12. Kind

13. Caring

14. Experienced

15. Family orientated

16. Handy

17. Loving

18. Fighter/protective/can handle himself

19 Temperate

20. Masculine

21. Faithful

22. Honourable

Updates

2 mo

I dont get the bitterness

[RavVid]

I have pointed out a number of times the more requirements you have the smaller your dating pool is.

That's because a lot of reqs aren't correlated. Like height and income (but maybe is for estate agents)

So I though I'd help you out by estimating the number of men in the US that would be OK for you.

I have had to take some liberties with your reqs. I think you should want single and not be a home wrecking man stealer. I've got the percentage of men that qualify the requirements from google AI but some were too nebulous so I am rating those as not available at the moment.

This what we get
0 single 30%
1 18-35 30%
2 handsome 30%
3 muscular 40%
4 tall 15%
5 charming 20%
6 intelligent 11%
7 educated 30%
8 own house 60%
9 nice car na
10 church 50%
11 fin stable 30%
12 kind 60%
13 caring na
14 experienced na
15 family orient 60%
16 handy 50%
17 loving 50%
18 fighters 10%
19 temperate 40%
20 masculine na
21 faithful 90%
22 honest 60%

At the moment we are assuming these are independent qualities. So of the US male population of 150 million 30% are single so you are down to 50 mill. Of these 11% are tall so down to 5.5 mill. We need to multiply the percentages together if you get it. Every requirement narrows the pool and the next requirement narrows still more.

Doing that we find 0.0000001871% of the male population has these HV qualities you want. There are 0.280600848 men in the US that are satisfactory for your needs.

The ones we have marked as 'na' will bring that down further to 0.002 men in the US who meet your needs assuming that 1 in 3 men have that quality.

You better start door knocking tomorrow!

[KimmySchmit]

Now do the rest of the statistics.
5% of the female population are aged 18-25
50% of the female population are obese
50% of women are married already
25% of women are on antidepressants or have mental health issues.
25% of women in the US are single mothers
40% of mothers are unmarried
13% of women have diabetes
49% of women have some chronic health problem.

Start applying those figures and any woman who is young, slim, attractive, had traditional values etc has a real chance due to lack of competition.

[OlderAndWiser]

I hope that you don't expect to find someone who checks all ten boxes.

Think about this: If there is a guy out there who does check all ten boxes, what do you think would be on his list of ten must-have qualities? Would you check all ten of HIS boxes?

[DishLady]

• Emotional & Moral Maturity (modesty, empathy, mindfulness, good manners, honesty, etc... a good, consistent heart and spirit)
• Intellectual Maturity (capable of creative and technical thought, well-rounded education, etc... a good, logical mind)
• Physical Capability (personally I've always liked the protective "Mr Fix It" sort of guys... total cutie pies with good hands, lol)
• Social maturity (capable of handling himself with dignity in different environments; (again, the good manners are worth listing twice;) doesn't take shit from people but doesn't start fights; friendly to everyone, not just "sucking up" to people for personal gain; protective of friends and family)

[FreyaRed]

According to three personality stages theory it's lack of cross transaction in all of these. In other words emotional, psychological and intellectual compatibility.
A spoiled brat won't be compatible with humble child, arrogant and hastily person won't be compatible with a person who observes a lot without interfering, a dumbutt won't find common language with high IQ individual.

We make wish lists to create perfect partner template without thinking if such a person would even fit to our need and even more important if we would fit this perfect person needs as well.

[Summeroflove]

Well I like the traits you’re putting because men who put value into superficial things …. Tend to attract superficial women and women looking for someone to take advantage of. I’ve seen women pick so called “high value men” only to be cheat with bums and losers.

Men who have these traits also need standards as well and find women who have the same traits nobody should ever settle for someone who chooses not to be a good person. Now, obviously there is unreasonable and unrealistic standards but those people will usually be the disappointed ones in the end. I like your list. Except for only the financial ones. Because someone can have money and not be that attractive and end up being cheated

[888theGreat]

I would say loyal
A real Christian , certainly not a Catholic
Kind to animals
Someone that has saved money , High salary means nothing if he is blowing it
Non Drnker
Non Flirt (loyalty)
No Kids
Wants to get married
Heterosexual
Parents didn't divorce
No Temper
Not a drug user
Doesn't gamble on sports
Will defend but doesn't look for trouble by hanging in Bars
Good job but not working 24/7
Leans Conservative
Never been married before

You won't find this guy because you are too hung up on looks and height. Muscle guys tend to be in love with themselves. Also of the muscle dudes I know , they all have been married and divorced multiple times.

[KimmySchmit]

Kind to animals isn't a big one gor me, as long as he's not cruel as thats the tell tale signs of a psycho

[CalmUntilAbused]

Well... So basically, You described a perfect victim of divorce rape, a naive child full of unrealistic ideals. Except maybe point 18, this would make Him a significant threat in case of any meddling on the woman's side.

My own vision is a confident man who does not care about any requirements, does not fear anything and even has a viable fighting plan if the woman throws Him into the legal woodchipper. I'd say I fit all of those checkboxes except the last one. 😄

[CalmUntilAbused]

Okay, so I read the other comments and I might have misjudged You a bit. I still stand by the idea that pulling those 22 requirements on any man with basic sense of self-worth will render Him uninterested, no matter how physically attracted to You He used to be.

[OneViewpoint]

So a guy has 22 hoops to jump through for you.

And what are you bringing to the table other than your looks that would attract a perfect man?

Wait for it...

[KimmySchmit]

You know right or wrong women dont have too many hoops to jump through other than be young and attractive

[Cyfris]

Thats what gets them in it isn't what keeps them there.

[OneViewpoint]

Your comment here is at odds with the question you posted which lists 22 requirements for a man to qualify as "High Value". Are you schizophrenic? Which is it, 22 hurdles to overcome or just be young and attractive?

[OneViewpoint]

And when you are no longer young and attractive, out you go with the trash at 38 and in comes your young and attractive replacement. Your rules not mine. OK, if that's what you want out of life.

[KimmySchmit]

If im 38 it will mean my husband is in his 50s so...

[OneViewpoint]

So what? You're still out with yesterday's trash and your 50 year old husband is bending over his new 25 year old wife.

[KimmySchmit]

Im not sure why you are so bitter

[OneViewpoint]

I think it's your delusional sense of entitlement. Life is gonna fix that for you. No worries.

[KimmySchmit]

Im sorry if I made you feel small.

[OneViewpoint]

LOL, you made yourself look delusional. Sorry you can't cope with reality. No worries, life is gonna take care of that for you.

[RandomGirl42]

Thank you for inviting me to share but that wouldn't be my list since I'm lesbian. And Pagan. 😊

[KimmySchmit]

I will pray for you.

[RandomGirl42]

You're not the first but thank you. 😊

[capriVib]

Having a big penis size and a lot of money is enough to be considered high value.

[KimmySchmit]

And tall...

[WhiteBoyChill]

@kimmyschmit all things you didn’t mention on your list….

[KimmySchmit]

@WhiteBoyChill like you can't teach 6ft

[WhiteBoyChill]

Oh nm I just meant you left out the penis and money stuff

[Berethor]

Catholic? what the problem with Jewish? Experienced? what the problem with Being A Man's First? Those Two Things are Totally Not Needed, other than that it's not a bad list.

https://allthetropes.org/wiki/Badass_Israeli

https://allthetropes.org/wiki/Nature_Adores_a_Virgin

[KimmySchmit]

Just not into jewish guys i guess. I mean my doctor is jewish, our accountant, my dentist, my jewler, my bank manager etc.

[HighValue]

I match everything there except the age and I am not Catholic. I am also 6' 1/2" tall with green eyes and a deep voice. I am not interested in Catholics though because they are incompatible with much of what is in the original King James Bible.

[KimmySchmit]

The primary differences between the King James Bible (KJV) and Catholic Bibles (e. g., NABRE, RSV-CE) are the number of books in the Old Testament and the underlying translation manuscripts. Catholic Bibles contain 73 books, including 7 deuterocanonical books (Tobit, Judith, 1&2 Maccabees, Wisdom, Sirach, Baruch) and additions to Daniel/Esther, while the standard KJV contains 66 books.
The KJV uses archaic, 17th-century English (thee/thou), while modern Catholic Bibles are translated into contemporary language for easier reading.

[HighValue]

Catholics pray to saints and do chants, which the KJV specifically says not to do. Also, when I did visit a couple Catholic churches when I was a kid (went with my grandparents) they spent more time trying to convince people to donate more money than teaching from the Bible.
Catholic priests also aren't allowed to get married so it is a great place for closet homosexuals to hide, which coincidentally there has been a problem in the past with numerous Catholic priests being inappropriate with alter boys. It was so common that they had to make an official policy that if it was proven MORE THAN ONCE they would be banned.
The previous Pope also approved of gay marriage that is directly against teachings in the Bible.

I just find it to be in too much conflict with Christianity.

[KimmySchmit]

You know that king James 1st was a sodomite and the puritans left because he was too Catholic. So the KJV is a homosexual book.
Profestant churches all over have problems right now with historical cases of sexual abuse, a powder keg waiting to explode.
Catholic priests, monks and nuns sacrifice their lives for God's church rather than making themselves rich.
Prodestant churches have tithes of 10-20% or you can't be part of the church. The catholic church has a basket passed around during mass to support the local church that you do not have to put money into. Yes they do have collection boxes for various charities like saint Vincent de Paul that helps people in the community.
The previous pope did not approve of Gay marraige.

[Cyfris]

A high value man isn't one that meets your unrealistic expectations of what high value is but the man that fills in the gaps where you are lacking. Helps you to grow where you feel small. Offers you strength when you feel weak. leads the way when you feel lost. Is a shield when you feel threatened. He is the type of man that shows up when no one else would and doesn't fold under pressure. If you love reading he loves building ikea bookshelves.

[MontBlanc]

A high value man isn’t just about money or status.

It’s someone who’s respectful, emotionally intelligent, reliable, ambitious, and willing to grow , all while treating others well and building a genuine connection.

[WhitneySnow]

You won’t find a lot of guys who fit all those criteria, but the good news is that a guy who is a sincere Catholic will probably take it slow sexually

[shoeboxcerealcard]

She put experienced though... I wonder what she means.

[WhitneySnow]

@shoeboxcerealcard sexually experienced? Maybe. Some girls want a guy who can teach them even if they do take it slow.

[MissSunshine2]

There are many options I could write down, but all I really need are kindness, intelligence, a sense of humour, a love of animals, loyal, committed, honest and not ugly.

[MereAnarchy]

Errr, you're a 17 year old married housewife who looks 35 in her profile pic?

[KimmySchmit]

Look at the name and compare the pic.

[Loki97]

What is the woman bringing to the table because looks and pussy are worthless during these times of hoeflation.

[KimmySchmit]

In times of hoeflation looks and pussy are worth even more. Especially in America where all a girl has to be to an 8 is not be obese.

[WhiteBoyChill]

@kimmyschmit most US women aren’t obese by the way

[Loki97]

Any woman over 135lbs is usually obese. And no. A virgin has more value than a hoe. A hoe is only worth sex. A woman of virtue. Who is fit, friendly, feminine and submissive who can cook and clean and make a house a home while bringing her man peace. That is a woman worth marrying.

[KimmySchmit]

Exactly. Supply and demand hence the hoeflation

[Loki97]

No. Us men want less hoes. A woman who only brings pussy to the relationship isn’t worth much. Yet you are acting like they are bringing all they need for a relationship. The higher your body count the lower your value. Yes men value sex but we also value low body count, youth, and sexual exclusivity meaning a girl who is not a hoe. Otherwise you are a toy and nothing more.

[slatyb]

Good luck with that. Such men have a lot of choice. Most likely you will settle, your priorities will change, or you will marry him and then be starved for attention.

[slatyb]

by the way, in church women outnumber men 3 to 2, so the competition for men in church is fierce. With all your criteria you would be lucky if there is one single man in the country who meets all of them. You might try this: sites.google.com/.../estimating-the-number-of-potentially-compatible-partners-in-your-area

[slatyb]

Oops never mind that doesn't work.

[DryGermanGuy]

https://youtu.be/Brs-FB8Q0_U?si=AXB6MyCI9mEoRiJa

[Anonymous]

Sounds like you are going to be alone for a long time.

[Hispanic-Cool-Guy]

You forgot to put rich.

The manosphere group considers men above a certain 6 figure income or to be "high valued"

[Clyde_123]

😂😂

[JessieRabbit]

It's hard enough for men and women to find somebody matching an entire checklist today.

[ammar12343]

So full package lol. Get it.

[Adogdog]

It's hard to find all of that! LOL

[Mike_Hum]

What do you bring to the table?

[KimmySchmit]

What men want.

[Mike_Hum]

which is?

[KimmySchmit]

What men want

[Mike_Hum]

And what is that?

[MidnightRivers]

Sounds bang on

[Shrimpenjoyer]

Experienced in what?

[KimmySchmit]

Life, love making.

[Shrimpenjoyer]

A catholic isn't supposed to be experienced in love making

[Anonymous]

Life is going to be hard for you.😆