What defines a “high value man/woman” in today’s dating world?

[MzAsh]

[Finchie40]

Finding someone that values and respects relationships like you do , someone that chooses you the same way you choose them, someone that stands by you the same way you stand my them. Making each other your top priority and removing selfishness for each other , staying loyal and faithful and resisting temptations for each other , that makes a person a high value person. Someone that wants to experience true love the same way you do. Money doesn’t buy love , finding a person that loves you from the heart the same way you love them from the heart is priceless

[spartan55]

Excellent 👍

[ShadezMcgee]

This is what makes a high value woman in my eyes.

One who exhibits compassion, loyalty, is nurturing, feminine, supportive, has like minded goals, parental capabilities, maturity, healthy level of independence, family driven, sense of humor and a healthy sex drive.

I don't care about her career choice so long as she makes money that can be put to our goals and that she can use to buy what she wants towards her passions, hobbies or luxury.

This is obviously subjective between both genders and man to man, but that is what I think.

A lot of women today believe that men value the same things they do that they bring to the relationship being the career, money, aloha personality, etc. But that is not the case. We are looking for a balance, not another copy of us. We don't want to deal with that as it emanates masculine energy and we naturally seek out feminine energy. We don't want to deal with a woman that comes across as a dude.

[Gwendoline]

Hard to say. We all have differing views on what we believe is high value. Maybe high value would be the type of guy most women want so he would be in demand.

Handsome

Smart

Sense of humour

Good provider

Loyal

6ft+

Athletic/muscular

Kind

Protective

Good father/husband material

Christian

[CindyRuns]

To me, it's a guy who is smart, fun to be with, has a good job, takes care of himself physically, dresses nicely and treats me nicely !!!

[turnpost]

Hiw smart, hiw fun, what is a good job, hiw nicely should he treat you

[Lliam]

Intellect, curiosity and open mindedness.

Sense of humor. Fun loving. Cheerful.

Strong work ethic - willingness and ability to work hard. Determination to overcome obstacles, problem solve, achieve goals and prosper.

Healthy values - honesty, loyalty, respect, unselfishness, dedication to the institution of marriage, a caring nature, a wholesome as opposed to consumer lifestyle, desire for a loving partnership in which both people's happiness and fulfillment is equally important.

Willingness and ability to communicate and collaborate.

Strong libido and sexual desire.

[loveslongnails]

Intelligence & integrity encompass all the many sub categories I believe are important, and we can list paragraphs of them. However, I wish to point out that while there will be many constants among people's descriptions of this, there will also be many variables as to what is considered "valuable" to each person.

For example, if you want kids and a large family, you need a partner who wants the same or they're of no value to you regardless of the other boxes they check. You have to find someone you can "share" your life with and not just "observe" each other's lives. That's valuable, in my opinion.

[nawtee_me]

When I see the term high value, I see high maintenance. Am I wrong?

It used to be that my value was determined by me… Now is it determined by what others think is important to them? But each person is different so does that mean my value is up and down depending on who is looking?

No! My value is still determined by me and whoever doesn’t see value in me isn’t worth my time anyway. I will not conform to what others think I should do or think. I will stand on my morals and values and others will easier like it or they will not.

My happiness does not depend on others. I will not give that kind of power over me away to others. This is why society has kids killing themselves. This is why the divorce rate is so high. Because society tells them they are of low value and convince them of it.

Everyone has value and should know there own value is way higher than society try’s to tell them it is. Value is determined by themselves and not others.

[worldscolide]

What women define as a high value woman is not the same as what men define as a high value woman. And sadly these women choose not to understand that, they think that if they value something, then everyone must value something, which is absolutely not true.

[MzAsh]

What specific qualities do men value in women that women are overlooking?

[worldscolide]

Most men do not look for wealth. Literally take your self to anywhere where men, average men, hang out and ask them and they will tell you that a career, money, success is completely irrelevant to men... The average man looks for kindness, caring, nurturing, honesty, and a capacity to care for others and place family before self. Those specific elements are what make a woman high value. Not career, not education, not money, not resources..

[MzAsh]

Considering the economic reality where dual incomes are often necessary to maintain a comfortable lifestyle, how do you see the role of a woman’s earnings in the context of a partnership or family life?

[worldscolide]

In my own family it's irrelevant. My wife does work, but if she were not able to tomorrow, it would change nothing believe it or not.. And where you live in this country has a LOT to do with weather or not a family can survive on a single income. The more blue the state/city is, the harder it is to survive on a single income. So again what a woman earns depending on where you live still means nothing.

[MzAsh]

It’s interesting you mention the impact of location on living with a single income. In my experience living in a red state, the reality is that to live decently, my husband and I need a combined household income of at least $80,000, and that’s without the added expenses of raising children. Given that the average American man earns about $50,000, how do you think most couples manage financially, especially in areas where the cost of living is high or in cases where unexpected expenses arise?

[worldscolide]

Dunno, my wife and I do just fine on my income alone. Our home is paid off, our vehicles are paid off, we have less than 1k in debt.. And I live in a Midwest red state. Won't get specific but in the Midwest the average male earns about 35k. My home cost me 125k.. If it were in say a large city, or virtually any blue state it would cost as much as 10 times that much. Especially if it were in California. We also have a sizeable savings for emergencies, I have the best health coverage money can buy.

As to how others manage.. No one is forcing them to live there.. So I do not care..

[MzAsh]

Your situation is indeed fortunate, but it seems to be more of an exception than the norm. Most American families, even average cost states, find it challenging to thrive on a single income. Given income, it’s often necessary for couples to rely on dual incomes to meet financial demands and maintain a reasonable standard of living. Considering this, it’s critical for men to value a partner’s financial contribution, career, and educational background for economic stability.

[worldscolide]

Why is it so hard for you, a grown adult woman, to accept the fact that the average male don't care about things like career, resources or money when it comes to dating. Men and women value different things, end of story.

No matter what you say, nor the actions you make, it doesn't change the facts. One of the biggest mistakes women like you make is this belief that men value the same things women do.. And if you falsely believe hard enough, it's somehow true. It's almost religious to women like you.

[MzAsh]

I get that many guys might not prioritize a woman’s job or education when choosing a partner. But ignoring these factors doesn’t make the economic realities disappear. If a guy ends up with someone who can’t contribute much financially because her job doesn’t pay well, that’s gonna put a serious strain on things, especially if money gets tight. We’re talking about stability here, not just preferences. In today’s world, most couples need two incomes to stay afloat. It’s just common sense to consider all aspects that can impact your life together, including financial ones.

[WhiteBoyChill]

Lol. My favorite part is when women think that because they make a lot of money and have decent jobs, all men should want to be with them.

[worldscolide]

Exactly, when those same women are usually insufferable, lack kindness, compassion, caring, and a willingness to put family first.

Most women that are like that are in the fuck zone/pump and dump category. Thank God I married a small town conservative girl.

[worldscolide]

Basically when it comes to women, money and success don't make you desirable.. It takes a lot more than that. Especially if she has money and is successful. Becuse she will capitalize on those traits when she lacks the ones men are actually looking for.. And then they are in their 40's wondering where all the good men are..

[MzAsh]

Financially successful women can also be kind, compassionate, and family oriented. Also, what’s considered desirable in a partner can vary greatly. This depends not only on individual preferences but also on life stages and the nature of the relationship one is looking for. For example, what I find desirable in a partner now, with a focus on stability and shared goals, is likely very different from the preferences of a 20 year old who might prioritize fun and spontaneity in a man.

[worldscolide]

I'm not saying they can't. What I'm saying is it's uncommon. Like trying to find a needle in a haystack of needles. Most of the time you find narcissists and sociopaths, not women with the traits men are looking for.

[MzAsh]

There’s a huge pool of women are there. It’s more about where and how you are looking, and whether or not the women you’re looking for are also looking for someone like you.

[worldscolide]

Yeah I'm not going disagree, only just state that well I've been married for 12 years. Before I met her, I went for successful women. The vast majority wanted to dominate, they didn't want a partner. The last one I was with before I met my wife, sliced my face up for breaking it off with her. She owned her own real estate firm. She was highly abusive, highly manipulative, incredibly controlling to the point where I was not permitted to even talk to female family members. And when I broke up with her, she sliced my face up, causing me to need over 100 stitches, both inside my mouth and outside my mouth.

So while you can say as you wish, my lived experience SCREAMS the opposite.

[MzAsh]

I’m really sorry to hear about what you went through. No one should have to deal with that kind of abuse, and it makes total sense that it would impact how you see things. But there’s a big difference between being dominant and being abusive. Sure, successful women often aren’t looking to play a submissive role, they want to stand on equal ground, not take over control.

What happened to you was awful and it’s a real example of someone taking things to an extreme. But we’ve got to remember that’s not how most successful women operate. Your experience is yours, and it’s valid, but it doesn’t define all women with ambition.

[WhiteBoyChill]

“But we’ve got to remember that’s not how most successful women operate”

So what you’re saying is, you know more than he does, and he’s wrong.

He literally just said “I have firsthand experience on the matter, and this is how most financially successful women are”

To which you said “no actually, that’s not how most financially successful women are”

Why should I believe you, and not him?

Why is your claim any more valid than his?

He gave specific examples and talked in depth about it, but you’re just here saying “oh just trust me guys, that’s not how most financially successful women are”

Could you at least try and be a little more convincing instead of just telling us what to believe without offering any insight?

[MzAsh]

I’m not trying to discount what he’s gone through. Those experiences sound incredibly tough, and they’re valid. But I’m coming from the position as someone who’s a successful, career driven woman but also as the breadwinner in my marriage, I’ve seen a different side of the coin. I’ve also spent years coaching other successful women, and I can tell you, the range of behaviors and leadership styles is vast. We’re not all cut from the same cloth.

The point I’m making is not that his experiences aren’t real. They are. But they represent a one piece of a much bigger picture.

[RavVid]

I think a high value woman is what she has always been to men. Attractive to your eyes and family oriented. Which includes the man by the way.

Female fashions are ever changing though a few things seem to stand like stone. Status, wealth, and height but there is a wheel barrow of other things now.

[Zack-Bann]

Ask 10 people you’ll get 10 answers
(some overlap sure)


But ultimately value is very subjective


What gives success in dating today is daring


Who dares wins basically

[Maybe_Maybe_not]

I don't see any "today's dating world", I see people, personalities and cultures, a mixture so complex that it looks impossible to define this universal value you want to see.

[genericname85]

I guess first and foremost, she gotta be an actual woman. Not a man acting and dressing like a woman. Then she gotta have a healthy weight, not do drugs, have a low body count (under 10) and ideally have a nurturing, bubbly character.

[MzAsh]

You have a few specific qualities in mind for a woman. Reflecting on those, what do you think you bring that would attract and maintain the interest of a woman who fits your ideal profile?

[genericname85]

Well I'm an actual man with a stable career who isn't morbidly obese, I'm educated in a mechanical trade as well as a degree in social science. Plus I have a stoic and protective character. Also my body count is below 10.

[MzAsh]

Sounds like a solid foundation. Considering what you’re looking for and what you bring to the table, how do you think those traits align with the deeper needs of someone who fits your ideal? Beyond the basics, what do you think makes a relationship last?

[genericname85]

I mean I'm loyal and I learned non-violent communication and I am sensitive to emotional as well as pragmatic topics. But either way I'm relatively happy single xD so whatever.

[Billlewis]

The main personality trait I look for is that she's very confident, or better yet, arrogant. If she thinks she's the hottest woman ever, I'll probably agree with her.

[BetaBucks]

Females: feminine, attractive, not aggressive, not rude.

Males: masculine, attractive, high status, charismatic.

[Fromdusktilldawn]

someone who doesn't mindlessly follow a stupid ideology (like wokism), but is open minded and intelligent. A person who is loyal, has a good sense of moral, emphatic, friendly, emotionally (and financially) stable

[Babygirl_S]

In my opinion:

-He is loyal

-He is masculine without being aggressive

-He hasn’t had/isn’t interested in casual sex

-He isn’t abusive

-He doesn’t chase women to have sex and dump them

[NathanDavis]

fortunately... I've never had the need to ponder about such arbitrary nonsense

[SweetDripp]

I think it's a polite way of saying they have their shit together and aren't bad-shit crazy 😂

[BoobMan]

I don't think what defines it changes. A high value man/woman is a person who has an abundance of high-quality options.

[WhiteBoyChill]

Depends on who you’re asking.

Most women would say a tall, rich handsome guy with a lot of money and a big penis.

Most men would say a woman with a decent personality.

[LiamJHayden]

I suppose it would vary from person to person.

[Jerre]

Her personality and wanting to have sex as much as I do

[RedInnocent69]

It’s relative to the person. It can even change over time.

[Ladsin2]

Same as always. Men still want the same women. Women still want the same men.

[ChefPapiChulo]

That's stupid terminology lmao. It's no different than alpha/beta.

[Jennz6]

Personality traits

[Shortkay4568]

One who makes a lot of money

[Billlewis]

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[Billlewis]

Would begging help?

[coolbreeze]

Money, wealth, and status

[YevgenyMikhail]

@MzAsh is a high-value woman.

[Lokiion]

How the person perceives themselves

[noohair]

Superficial shallow crap.

[TallAnon]

Looks, money, connections; Not much has changed.

[ManInChains]

What dating world?

[eagle1951]

beats me