I just have to say, women offer what men cannot and men can offer what women cannot on the table.
A mix of both is needed for the balance to maintain and anything to thrive. That much is absolutely clear.
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One big reason is that women in a competitive environment are hard to work with. They won't work with you even when it's in both your intrests, they will screw you over if they can, they won't reciprocate help or favour, they try to take credit for others work.
I agree women love to talk behind each others back and try to sabotage other women. They’re very insecure (even I am) and they just can’t be nice to eachother. A lot can be tolerable but some are aggressive for no reason. And I really can’t stand the loud obnoxious ones.
Why is this so hard for women to understand? Working in an office with mostly women is absolutely exhausting. A few years ago I left a job where my "promotion" was going to be managing a large group of angry millennial women and a handful of soy boys. I told my boss "no fucking way" and he laughed and agreed. I left than six months later he left.
You've practically shown for the umpteenth time that men have adult behaviors, while women have childish behaviors. Men are not aggressive they are just adults, which women are not, this is all the male female dynamic with the associated problems. Repetitia juvant.
What she said applies to college students too. My female friends say that their friends do not help them during online exams. But we guys do. It seems guys prioritize collective success over individual success everywhere.
And the behavior seen in colleges is for sure reflected in their professional life too.
I don't think she said anything wrong. It is not women-hating. But just highlighting the drawbacks.
Why do i see 200 people criticizing women all day? I really dont think its necessary. Just as you can say bad things about women, you can also say bad things about men. Why so many people bully women on here?
There is nothing collaborative about men. Men tend to be more selfish while women tend to be more nurturing and caring. There has been studies that proven that women tend to make decisions considering the entire community in mind while men make decisions that benefit themselves
@haha456 I, surely present the drawbacks present in guys too. Wherever it is necessary. And drawbacks are not bad things. It depends on you how you see them. Either as bad things or as constructive criticism.
According to the epidemiological data summarized in psychiatry’s diagnostic manual (American Psychiatric Association, 2013), men are more likely to have the personality disorder that forms the clinically significant form of narcissism. Individuals with pathological narcissism also show high levels of distress, as well as engaging in high-risk behaviors that interfere with their ability to lead fulfilling lives.
With three decades of data from more than 475,000 participants, a new study on narcissism reveals that men, on average, are more narcissistic than women.
When seeing or hearing about terrible things happening to people, women are much more likely than men (71% vs. 53%) to say they often feel sad for those who are suffering. Similarly, a larger share of women (46%) than men (34%) report often feeling the desire to help those suffering. And when hearing about bad news, women are more inclined than men to say they often feel thankful for the good things in their own lives (76% vs. 67%).
@haha456Thanks for replying. Anybody else would have left.
As for your replies, narcissistic behavior simply means elevated self-importance. Can you tell me, how this trait is related with their work life?
This trait seems completely personal to me.
I did not want to say this, but society demands a more practical livable with all amenities life from men and still now, women come in after all of that. When you build something from ground up, would not feel personal with it? Possessive with it? A natural attitude towards it? When something bad happens, women are more emotional than men. This is because we have not been encouraged to show our emotions with as much freedom as women. Blame the society for this behavior. We simply do not know how to react hence the silence in uncountable cases. We are simply expected to be much more practical than girls, overall.
The author of the question also said that whereas women are vocal about their work life, men try to show it through their behavior than be vocal about it.
The first paper you mentioned, about fulfilling life, that is a completely personal problem. It does not reflect how guys are not willing to help each other in workplace. In the article, the attention need is mentioned. Helping others gives you attention and appreciation too, hence a sense of being important too.
You, inadvertently told me, narcissistic people simply increase the productivity of a company as a whole. You also told me why men prefer to be more interested in work life as compared to their personal life. They feel needed.
We are not talking about personal life here. Purely professional life.
@Bethany22 what do you think about this reply? If I am wrong somewhere, please tell me so.
Narcissistic people also tend to be bullies and create a TOXIC workplace. Narcissistic people are those who would shove their coworkers under the bus in order to get promoted. Narcissistic people are unkind and tend to only look out for their own selfish self-interests.
This trait is the most common amongst men which means men are more likely to develop the qualities mentioned above.
Men are also more prone to anti-social behavior which explains why vast majority of criminals are men. Vats majority of gang members, bank robbers, rapists, serial killers are men. Most of the parents who abandon their babies are also men.
Women are more emotional, sensitive, caring, attentive which is why nursing, counseling, social work, therapy, psychologist, teaching is predominately women. You can't do this type of work without compassion or feelings (which are qualities that men lack).
And you know what? its women who tend to make decisions as a community rather than to make decisions based off of their own personal interests.
@shaysh87 Good for you guys then! Judging by how you are portraying girls overall, it must be like real luck to work with each other.
I think, at least on university level, unkike girls, guys have been really supportive of ea... who am I trying to with. My words are going to fall on deaf ears anyways.
@shaysh87 You only see what you want to see. There are plenty of girls asking questions about guys, by staying anonymous.
And, not only guys are talking about their experience with girls, even girls are talking about their experience with girls.
See, I have had two really amazing girls as my group leaders in my graduation course for 2 years straight. I expect anyone to be of caliber of the post they are holding. Nothing else. And if not, then don't complain about it.
I just met a misogynistic woman who tells me that I will expire at the age of 30 and that no man would want me at that age. Another woman told me I shouldn't hold a career and confine myself in the house as a maid for my husband and children.
Misoygny can exist in women too. Women raised by misogynistic woman hating fathers, brothers and uncles. These girls grow up into women holding the same sexist, patriarchal, chauvinistic attitudes.
did you know that 2000 years ago in china, boys were valued more than girls due to their ability to do farm work, mothers only wanted boys while they drowned their baby girls?
the woman hating needs to stop. and I can immediately tell you're not taking this seriously. if you've been on here long enough, you should already know that these types of hating questions are asked on the daily.
My Mytake was to help women become friends with the enemy. It was not to say that men are better than them. But since the work world has been primarily run by men up until a few decades ago, women need to learn the rules that no one bothered to tell them about work.
its crazy how every single person on here seems to have something bad to say about women on a daily basis. Rarely do I ever see a negative question criticizing men.
because I do know for sure that men are the more "assholic" of the two genders
this is a chronic systemic pattern of hatred on this website targeted on women. Its not you just woke up one day and you criticized women one time. Its a chronic daily pattern of shit talk
Oh My God! Why are you victimizing yourself so much! Try to understand the motive first before typing something random!
You are willing to see the one side of coin only. Not the other side. In fact you are actively ignoring the other side.
If you truly want any kind of resolution, rather than this pointless debate, clinging on to history, when we are only going in future, you must face the uncomfortable truth, embrace it and work on it.
What @Bethany22 said right now is literally what this question was all about! But you, and specifically you, completely sidelined it by introducing personal behavior.
I mean who cares about personal behavior for a question like this! You know, women behave really differently at home and at work. And you did not figure it out. Most women command professionalism in job, individually. They just need to learn a few things, like men need to learn from them for their career.
what other side of the coin? there is no other side to this. Men don't get this sort of hatred on here.
why dont you quit pretending and face the reality that there are woman hating questions asked on a DAILY BASIS on this website?
want to talk shit about women? i can also talk shit about men too. and when you do hear it, don't complain. I would be more than glad to give you a taste of your own medicine.
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Lots of chaos for this question, I see.
I just have to say, women offer what men cannot and men can offer what women cannot on the table.
A mix of both is needed for the balance to maintain and anything to thrive. That much is absolutely clear.
One big reason is that women in a competitive environment are hard to work with. They won't work with you even when it's in both your intrests, they will screw you over if they can, they won't reciprocate help or favour, they try to take credit for others work.
I agree women love to talk behind each others back and try to sabotage other women. They’re very insecure (even I am) and they just can’t be nice to eachother. A lot can be tolerable but some are aggressive for no reason. And I really can’t stand the loud obnoxious ones.
They think guys will find them hot if they are workaholics but guys don't care about that. They don't want a women that lives for her career.
Why is this so hard for women to understand? Working in an office with mostly women is absolutely exhausting. A few years ago I left a job where my "promotion" was going to be managing a large group of angry millennial women and a handful of soy boys. I told my boss "no fucking way" and he laughed and agreed. I left than six months later he left.
maybe its cuz your mother dropped you when you were a baby, now you hate all women
You've practically shown for the umpteenth time that men have adult behaviors, while women have childish behaviors. Men are not aggressive they are just adults, which women are not, this is all the male female dynamic with the associated problems. Repetitia juvant.
Thankfully I work a Field where no woman dares tread.
What field?
Metal Fabrication and Machining. I work with dangerous spinny shit all fucking day.
Yeah doesn't interest me
And I weld on occasion.
As I expected.
The author of this book is really good. Have you read her book For Women Only?
No, I've been looking for a copy though ☺️
More than one woman has told me that woman-dominated workplaces are hell.
another woman hating question. almost every person on this website hates women.
What she said applies to college students too. My female friends say that their friends do not help them during online exams. But we guys do. It seems guys prioritize collective success over individual success everywhere.
And the behavior seen in colleges is for sure reflected in their professional life too.
I don't think she said anything wrong. It is not women-hating. But just highlighting the drawbacks.
@The_Shadow_Dweller
Why do i see 200 people criticizing women all day? I really dont think its necessary. Just as you can say bad things about women, you can also say bad things about men. Why so many people bully women on here?
@The_Shadow_Dweller
There is nothing collaborative about men. Men tend to be more selfish while women tend to be more nurturing and caring. There has been studies that proven that women tend to make decisions considering the entire community in mind while men make decisions that benefit themselves
@haha456
I, surely present the drawbacks present in guys too. Wherever it is necessary. And drawbacks are not bad things. It depends on you how you see them. Either as bad things or as constructive criticism.
You are getting the wrong idea about this site.
You know what. Give me the links to those studies. I would also like to read them. Knowledge is good.
@The_Shadow_Dweller
According to the epidemiological data summarized in psychiatry’s diagnostic manual (American Psychiatric Association, 2013), men are more likely to have the personality disorder that forms the clinically significant form of narcissism. Individuals with pathological narcissism also show high levels of distress, as well as engaging in high-risk behaviors that interfere with their ability to lead fulfilling lives.
www.psychologytoday.com/.../new-way-understand-the-narcissistic-male
@The_Shadow_Dweller
With three decades of data from more than 475,000 participants, a new study on narcissism reveals that men, on average, are more narcissistic than women.
www.sciencedaily.com/.../150304104040.htm
When seeing or hearing about terrible things happening to people, women are much more likely than men (71% vs. 53%) to say they often feel sad for those who are suffering. Similarly, a larger share of women (46%) than men (34%) report often feeling the desire to help those suffering. And when hearing about bad news, women are more inclined than men to say they often feel thankful for the good things in their own lives (76% vs. 67%).
www.pewresearch.org/.../
@haha456Thanks for replying. Anybody else would have left.
As for your replies, narcissistic behavior simply means elevated self-importance.
Can you tell me, how this trait is related with their work life?
This trait seems completely personal to me.
I did not want to say this, but society demands a more practical livable with all amenities life from men and still now, women come in after all of that. When you build something from ground up, would not feel personal with it? Possessive with it? A natural attitude towards it?
When something bad happens, women are more emotional than men. This is because we have not been encouraged to show our emotions with as much freedom as women. Blame the society for this behavior. We simply do not know how to react hence the silence in uncountable cases. We are simply expected to be much more practical than girls, overall.
The author of the question also said that whereas women are vocal about their work life, men try to show it through their behavior than be vocal about it.
The first paper you mentioned, about fulfilling life, that is a completely personal problem. It does not reflect how guys are not willing to help each other in workplace. In the article, the attention need is mentioned. Helping others gives you attention and appreciation too, hence a sense of being important too.
You, inadvertently told me, narcissistic people simply increase the productivity of a company as a whole. You also told me why men prefer to be more interested in work life as compared to their personal life. They feel needed.
We are not talking about personal life here. Purely professional life.
@Bethany22 what do you think about this reply?
If I am wrong somewhere, please tell me so.
@The_Shadow_Dweller
Narcissistic people also tend to be bullies and create a TOXIC workplace. Narcissistic people are those who would shove their coworkers under the bus in order to get promoted. Narcissistic people are unkind and tend to only look out for their own selfish self-interests.
This trait is the most common amongst men which means men are more likely to develop the qualities mentioned above.
Men are also more prone to anti-social behavior which explains why vast majority of criminals are men. Vats majority of gang members, bank robbers, rapists, serial killers are men. Most of the parents who abandon their babies are also men.
Women are more emotional, sensitive, caring, attentive which is why nursing, counseling, social work, therapy, psychologist, teaching is predominately women. You can't do this type of work without compassion or feelings (which are qualities that men lack).
And you know what? its women who tend to make decisions as a community rather than to make decisions based off of their own personal interests.
@shaysh87
Good for you guys then!
Judging by how you are portraying girls overall, it must be like real luck to work with each other.
I think, at least on university level, unkike girls, guys have been really supportive of ea... who am I trying to with. My words are going to fall on deaf ears anyways.
@The_Shadow_Dweller
just like there are bad things you can say about women, there are also plenty of bad things I can say about men.
there's way too much hate and criticism against women on this website.
@shaysh87
You only see what you want to see. There are plenty of girls asking questions about guys, by staying anonymous.
And, not only guys are talking about their experience with girls, even girls are talking about their experience with girls.
See, I have had two really amazing girls as my group leaders in my graduation course for 2 years straight. I expect anyone to be of caliber of the post they are holding. Nothing else. And if not, then don't complain about it.
@The_Shadow_Dweller
I just met a misogynistic woman who tells me that I will expire at the age of 30 and that no man would want me at that age. Another woman told me I shouldn't hold a career and confine myself in the house as a maid for my husband and children.
Misoygny can exist in women too. Women raised by misogynistic woman hating fathers, brothers and uncles. These girls grow up into women holding the same sexist, patriarchal, chauvinistic attitudes.
@The_Shadow_Dweller
did you know that 2000 years ago in china, boys were valued more than girls due to their ability to do farm work, mothers only wanted boys while they drowned their baby girls?
@The_Shadow_Dweller
the woman hating needs to stop. and I can immediately tell you're not taking this seriously. if you've been on here long enough, you should already know that these types of hating questions are asked on the daily.
@The_Shadow_Dweller
its "not ok" for women to gossip with each other about work.
but its completely "ok" for men to abandon their children to single moms to raise,
its "completely ok" for men to start wars and violence
its "completely ok " for the fact that men commit the vast majority of societies' crimes.
If a man is assertive, he is seen as a "leader"
if a woman is assertive, she is seen as "bossy"
My Mytake was to help women become friends with the enemy. It was not to say that men are better than them. But since the work world has been primarily run by men up until a few decades ago, women need to learn the rules that no one bothered to tell them about work.
@Bethany22
its crazy how every single person on here seems to have something bad to say about women on a daily basis. Rarely do I ever see a negative question criticizing men.
because I do know for sure that men are the more "assholic" of the two genders
@Bethany22
do you realize all this hate can classify as "bullying"?
@Bethany22
this is a chronic systemic pattern of hatred on this website targeted on women. Its not you just woke up one day and you criticized women one time. Its a chronic daily pattern of shit talk
@haha456
Oh My God!
Why are you victimizing yourself so much!
Try to understand the motive first before typing something random!
You are willing to see the one side of coin only. Not the other side. In fact you are actively ignoring the other side.
If you truly want any kind of resolution, rather than this pointless debate, clinging on to history, when we are only going in future, you must face the uncomfortable truth, embrace it and work on it.
What @Bethany22 said right now is literally what this question was all about! But you, and specifically you, completely sidelined it by introducing personal behavior.
I mean who cares about personal behavior for a question like this! You know, women behave really differently at home and at work. And you did not figure it out. Most women command professionalism in job, individually. They just need to learn a few things, like men need to learn from them for their career.
That's it! Literally!
@The_Shadow_Dweller
what other side of the coin? there is no other side to this. Men don't get this sort of hatred on here.
why dont you quit pretending and face the reality that there are woman hating questions asked on a DAILY BASIS on this website?
want to talk shit about women? i can also talk shit about men too. and when you do hear it, don't complain. I would be more than glad to give you a taste of your own medicine.
@The_Shadow_Dweller
if you don't want me criticizing men, then you dont criticize women.
Lets respect each other. We're not kids.
@haha456
Do whatever you want. I am not attending this thread anymore.
Shrug. I almost never had any problems in the workplace with any ladies. Mostly the same goes towards my school times as well. 🤷♀️
Sure not inventing problems out of thin air?
Can't say I recognize a lot of these, but interesting. We're at a ratio of 9 men to 1 woman, so I don't hear about it a lot.
Guess cuz they become to job caring an loose eite of peoples feelings
Some men do this stuff, some don't. It's on an individual basis.
Interesting...
Women just whine more and are willing to work less hard than men. That's why most women workaholics are annoying to everyone.
For the most part this is true. My corporate life I had nothing but female bosses which i still stay in touch with today.
That's right a feminist woman we guys let in the club and give us "our secrets". So gullible...
A male should encourage women, a woman, a girl to pursue their dreams.
Interesting take.