When our great (great?) grandmothers were housewives they washed the clothes by hand and prepared food from scratch. It was a genuine full time job. Now? Not so sure.
Asker: "I personally don't give a fuck about children, I prefer their mother to go to work so they can be raised by a stranger, but that's not my decision"
Hey you have a brain WHY NOT USE IT? Nice appeal to feminism there. Tell me, if you had a nickname, what letter would it begin with? C I think...
"I personally don't give a fuck about children" Word for word analysis of what I said. Intelligence = unending. Also, feminists tend to support housewives if you haven't noticed, which I have a problem with. Also, please notice nowhere in my question did I ever mention children. That's a stay-at-home mom, one with which I also have a problem (except of course in the early months of infancy). Also, you really emphasize the "stranger" part, yet you leave out the fact that these are trained professionals who have multiple layers of accountability. Parents can still interact with their child when off from work.
Of course I care about children. But a woman giving up her income for the household? Dude, the household can be taken care of by both parties in their spare time, but full-time staying at home? Ridiculous. A waste, really. To assume I don't care about children, or rather just use a vulgar insult like that, is really telling for the type of person you are.
feminists tend to support housewives? You're out of your fking mind. A housewife is a stay at home mom, read a fking book kid. Woman giving up her income? She spends it all on the kids anyway she may as well just do the work herself like, oh Idunno, A NATURAL LOVING MAMMALIAN MOTHER
look okay you're 19, maybe you have an excuse for being young an ignorant, but the rest of the world does not. You just haven't put the pieces together yet. These ideas you are espousing, you didn't come up with them by yourself. This is just your programming speaking, and you aren't even yet aware of it. Men are not designed to look after young children, and woman have giant feedbags on their chest for a reason. Just open your eyes
Are you a troll dude? You write like a 12 year old who just discovered the internet.
No, feminists consistently support housewives and stay-at-home moms. Actually, they emphasize the importance that a woman should be able to pursue whatever path she desires, including a stay-at-home mom. Also, "kid" comment really appreciated. Currently in college, not sure about you.
She WOULD be spending her money along with the father's on a house within a better school district and better property value. The family could afford to pay for college, could take nice vacations. And kids need to go to school eventually, you know.
And once again, your argument revolves around kids. I just said housewives, nothing about mothers.
man I just can't wrap my head around you arguing for feminism is somehow correlated with stay at home motherhood. Do you know any history besides the shit they shove down your throat in college? You think the rise of feminism and the rise of women choosing to enter the workforce instead of stay home is some fking coincidence? Look, I get it, you're all proud of your slightly better than average linguistic ability, clap clap, pat on the back, now listen up. When it comes to debate, when it comes to truth, it doesn't matter how you say it, it matters what you say.
But yeah tl ;dr you're a kid, you don't know what the real world is, you've gone from one institution to another and you likely won't be shat out of that trainwreck for another few years at least. You just don't know what you don't know and I can't fault ya for that, but you should learn to accept truth no matter where it comes from.
Yes I could have. I was taught thst a career is a life occupation, and stay at home mothers seem to be occupied for life, so I just thought, "Why not?" Actually, I didn't give it much thought, because I didn't think 2/3 of the people would even care
By that logic you can say breathing is also career. I mean, we're all pretty occuupied with it aren't we?
I don't find it respectable either way. People handle both parenthood, housework and a job with pretty good results, so why would I go out of my way to admire someone who objwctively has it pretty easy? This doesn't mean housewives/househusbands shouldn't be respected as people, far from it. But that specific life choice is not what makes them praise worthy.
I agree, and while I also agree that being a housewife doesn't exclude you from being a respectable person, I also agree that two working parents can do it just fine.
Housework is not what it was 200 years ago. It's a lot easier. When it comes to kids, of course it's good to have a parent at home. But later on, it's actually good for the kids to be with other kids and socialize so kindergarden really isn't a tragedy. Also, as the kids get older, they will make less mess (if raised properly) and do some housework themself. So at that point wife is pretty unoccupied.
And also, I have a feeling having a housewife at home can make kids pretty lazy and spoiled. You can either have a mother with too much time on her hands, because the kids do housework too (plus school time takes up a lot of the day), or you get a busy mom who does literally everything for the kids except wiping their ass (pardon my language), making them spoiled.
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When our great (great?) grandmothers were housewives they washed the clothes by hand and prepared food from scratch. It was a genuine full time job. Now? Not so sure.
Being a Housewife is definitely a job in itself so ya definitely a respectable career.
Yes, of course. Otherwise you're gonna ship off your children to a daycare for someone else to raise?
No it's not, it's just being lazy and not wanting to work. Or being a crazy traditionalist
Asker: "I personally don't give a fuck about children, I prefer their mother to go to work so they can be raised by a stranger, but that's not my decision"
Hey you have a brain WHY NOT USE IT? Nice appeal to feminism there. Tell me, if you had a nickname, what letter would it begin with? C I think...
"I personally don't give a fuck about children" Word for word analysis of what I said. Intelligence = unending. Also, feminists tend to support housewives if you haven't noticed, which I have a problem with. Also, please notice nowhere in my question did I ever mention children. That's a stay-at-home mom, one with which I also have a problem (except of course in the early months of infancy). Also, you really emphasize the "stranger" part, yet you leave out the fact that these are trained professionals who have multiple layers of accountability. Parents can still interact with their child when off from work.
Of course I care about children. But a woman giving up her income for the household? Dude, the household can be taken care of by both parties in their spare time, but full-time staying at home? Ridiculous. A waste, really. To assume I don't care about children, or rather just use a vulgar insult like that, is really telling for the type of person you are.
Use discourse, not your emotions.
feminists tend to support housewives? You're out of your fking mind. A housewife is a stay at home mom, read a fking book kid. Woman giving up her income? She spends it all on the kids anyway she may as well just do the work herself like, oh Idunno, A NATURAL LOVING MAMMALIAN MOTHER
look okay you're 19, maybe you have an excuse for being young an ignorant, but the rest of the world does not. You just haven't put the pieces together yet. These ideas you are espousing, you didn't come up with them by yourself. This is just your programming speaking, and you aren't even yet aware of it. Men are not designed to look after young children, and woman have giant feedbags on their chest for a reason. Just open your eyes
Are you a troll dude? You write like a 12 year old who just discovered the internet.
No, feminists consistently support housewives and stay-at-home moms. Actually, they emphasize the importance that a woman should be able to pursue whatever path she desires, including a stay-at-home mom. Also, "kid" comment really appreciated. Currently in college, not sure about you.
She WOULD be spending her money along with the father's on a house within a better school district and better property value. The family could afford to pay for college, could take nice vacations. And kids need to go to school eventually, you know.
And once again, your argument revolves around kids. I just said housewives, nothing about mothers.
Alright man this is a headache to read
I was just thinking "it's like I'm talking to someone who's never even lived in reality"
... and so it is
man I just can't wrap my head around you arguing for feminism is somehow correlated with stay at home motherhood. Do you know any history besides the shit they shove down your throat in college? You think the rise of feminism and the rise of women choosing to enter the workforce instead of stay home is some fking coincidence? Look, I get it, you're all proud of your slightly better than average linguistic ability, clap clap, pat on the back, now listen up. When it comes to debate, when it comes to truth, it doesn't matter how you say it, it matters what you say.
But yeah tl ;dr you're a kid, you don't know what the real world is, you've gone from one institution to another and you likely won't be shat out of that trainwreck for another few years at least. You just don't know what you don't know and I can't fault ya for that, but you should learn to accept truth no matter where it comes from.
It is not a career so really neither. A career is where you make money and housewives make zero money
So I shouldn't respect someone because of a career choice? Its non criminal hard work so I do respect anyone who does it as much as any other "career"
It takes a lot of work and i really mean it
Girls that wanna be housewifes most of their life thats even harder then some working people do
Only a feminist would see it as a bad career choice..
Any career feminazis disapprove of, I will always encourage for REAL women
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It’s definitely not a respectable career. But it is respectable in its own way.
Does she get paid for being a housewife? No? Then its not a career but there is nothing wrong with it
I wouldn't call that a career, but it is respectable, if that's a choice you made.
It is not for me. I do not care what others do.
It's not even a career, respectable or not.
So excited to see this answer every time
Try to play his or her game. Follow his or her standards!
It's not a career, if you're not making money for it
Love it when people get hung up on the diction
Wtf hows that a career?
Respectable or not. Its not a career in the first place
Maybe career isn't the right wording. Life choice?
No because it's not a career.
So excited to see another one of these comments lol
You worded the question. How were we supposed to know you didn't actually mean career? ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Career as was defined to me meant a life's occupation. What word choice would you hace preferred?
You could have said 'life choice'.
Yes I could have. I was taught thst a career is a life occupation, and stay at home mothers seem to be occupied for life, so I just thought, "Why not?" Actually, I didn't give it much thought, because I didn't think 2/3 of the people would even care
By that logic you can say breathing is also career. I mean, we're all pretty occuupied with it aren't we?
I don't find it respectable either way. People handle both parenthood, housework and a job with pretty good results, so why would I go out of my way to admire someone who objwctively has it pretty easy?
This doesn't mean housewives/househusbands shouldn't be respected as people, far from it. But that specific life choice is not what makes them praise worthy.
Well if you want to go that far? Sure?
I agree, and while I also agree that being a housewife doesn't exclude you from being a respectable person, I also agree that two working parents can do it just fine.
Housework is not what it was 200 years ago. It's a lot easier.
When it comes to kids, of course it's good to have a parent at home. But later on, it's actually good for the kids to be with other kids and socialize so kindergarden really isn't a tragedy. Also, as the kids get older, they will make less mess (if raised properly) and do some housework themself. So at that point wife is pretty unoccupied.
And also, I have a feeling having a housewife at home can make kids pretty lazy and spoiled.
You can either have a mother with too much time on her hands, because the kids do housework too (plus school time takes up a lot of the day), or you get a busy mom who does literally everything for the kids except wiping their ass (pardon my language), making them spoiled.
when it comes to kids as babies*
Not to mention, it's usually to have ambitions beyond the living room
It's hard work and I 100% respect it