What do you think about denying white people promotions due to needing more diversity in management positions (this happened at my work)?

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What recently happened was there was a vacancy in a higher up position. Everyone was mentioning how a girl deserved it and everyone assumed it was going to be her who got called up. It was expected because she’s the best worker we have and one of the smartest. She was denied and they hired a person of color in there who seemed very random. Nobody said anything at all about it nor did the white girl but I think we were kinda all thinking the same thing.

Anonymous · Accepted Answer

Yeah it’s daft. I agree with diversity and equal opportunities. But tickboxing that’s overrides talent is just as ridiculous as unequal opportunities. 🤦🏼‍♀️

Cathy7734 · Accepted Answer

I've read about affirmative action and how the policy promotes minorities. But I don't know if it's still a government policy or they have disbanded it.

Heartache0405 · Answer

This is due to affirmative action. There’s a story I came across where a man was fired and replaced by two women. A black woman and a white woman. He filed a discrimination lawsuit and won $10 mil. But still never got his job back. Affirmative action is both racist and sexist. Jobs should be given to those who are qualified for the position. Not handed to someone based on their race, sex, etc.

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jess05 · Answer

The fact that people buy into this garbage, drives me crazy...
You base your opinion off social media. Literally, the most unreliable source, of media.
Assuming all white people are privileged, is so insanely ignorant.
Do you want to know who is privileged... Americans.. And if anyone argues this fact, they are obviously in denial or have no idea what happens in 3rd world countries. People born in North Korea, People born in Afghanistan, Iraq, etc. Those people are repressed.
If someone in those countries acted even remotely close to how we act here. They would be sentenced to death... Your hands would be cut off, You would be whipped in public. The true heroes, are not the ones posting on social media. They are the ones that gave their lives, So that you could have the freedom to bash on what they sacrificed. Believing all white people are privileged, you have obviously never actually done done any research into our history.
Believing white people all get promoted to management, is ridiculous. Most are blue collar workers, working alongside Hispanics, islanders, blacks and Asians. Working back breaking jobs.
You can argue this all you want, But I guarantee the people not responding are the ones that are really repressed...

AncientWisdom · Answer

Yes they do that because they are idiots. That’s the problem. There is no such thing as white privilege in this country there hasn’t been in a long while. The thing is blacks do have privilege. At this moment in time blacks are the most racist people in this country , and as to their black privilege its shown in their ability to attack any other race but mainly white without repercussions or consequences. They have their own college funds , you must hire them even if you don’t want too. They have funds and charities for only black people. They have their own pet civil rights group called the NAACP. BLM is the biggest ripoff against black people that has ever been perpetrated, and it was done by other black people. The US needs to stop catering to these people and make them earn their place in this society instead of giving them everything. Blacks are 13.4 % of the population so why are we allowing them to dictate how the rest of us behave. 67.8 % white 18 % Hispanic/Latino then there is a small percentage of other that constitutes oriental and eastern people. Some pseudo scientists have put out this narrative that whites are going to be a minority. That may be it’s far in the future you won’t see it nor your grandchildren. You always hear about black poverty. Well there is white poverty too and Hispanic poverty etc. Blacks even try to gatekeep who is poor. Its ridiculous it needs to stop. The reason they are making so much noise now is they think they are going to get another bunch of freebies and maybe some more organizations to ensure they keep the freebies coming and keep that privilege they have over the rest of us. Also before you all start sending your hate. My skin is very thick and if you come at me ignorant you will be treated as ignorant. You can’t upset me , and you can do nothing about my opinion. It is what it is and I will always fearlessly uphold the truth.

darkcloud1945 · Answer

LMFAO! I had the same thing happen in a company I worked for they advanced a person because they needed some color upstairs so in their stupidity they advanced an unqualified person of color and what happened was not unexpected. Production fell by half, moral went into the basement and respect for managment stopped. The new boss was such an asshole no one would give the person help when they were asked a question that would help the new boss. The answer across the board was your the boss now you should know that because we do not know the answer. There were people of color who worked there for many years and overqualifed for the job but because they were women the job was given to a man not the best person for the job. Shortly after about 30 percent of us left and found better employment the old company folded a couple of year later. We did not care if the job was give to a man or woman Red, Yellow , Brown or Black , Give it to the most qualified of any color and gender. Not to fill a quota

Anonymous · Answer

Here’s the problem — it should ALWAYS be based on merit. It if that happens, you’re not going to see a lot of diversity — Asians and whites are very qualified for most job positions they seeks to acquire. Their IQs average about 107 and 105 respectively; blacks at 85 and Hispanics at 89. Obviously, there are smart and dumb folks of every hue but that isn’t the point. On the law of averages, the average black is at the 16th percentile for whites. What will this lead to? Disaster. Society will tell people their disparate outcomes are caused by “racism” because telling them it is their intelligence is not politically correct. And so when certain groups have higher criminality rates and are treated as suspect by police who see it everyday, those groups will resort to violent riots as we saw in 2020. So we continue to give them unearned job positions, unearned TV time, unearned settlement moneys to hold this thing together. And it will only get worse. Can you imagine an air traffic controller or surgeons job being given to someone unqualified? Look at Obama — No dummy but certainly not a Bill Clinton or Even. Donald Trump. But Obama could read his lines and follow his handlers’ advice. But many jobs won’t have a handler and will put the rest of us at real risk just so we can workshop at the alter of political correctness.

purplepoppy · Answer

It's wrong but remember in the world of work it's common to see that regardless of race. Promotions will often go to people who are less qualified, capable, and experienced than other candidates. It could be favouritism, a relative, a friend or they just give great head.

t-8900 · Answer

The best society runs on meritocracy. Else you are only as fast as the slowest wheel. Doesn't matter skin, gender, religion. The best should ALWAYS be chosen for the position. Has something like this happen at my old job. But it was gender discrimination instead... against men. I was basically a work horse while they texted bfs, threw things laughing, and I never got promoted but they did despite me being a customer favorite and being there way longer. Somehow the same girls I trained from say one would eventually become my boss? Wtf is that? And I still had more knowledge on how to get things done and they came to me for help... like what? Well anyways settled out of court for other reasons they screwed up. If I was older and wiser I would have rejected the 12k for a day stack.

Aerissa_Jade · Answer

It is up to the business to decide who is the most qualified, of course they'll be the one that has to deal with the fall out if the person they put into that position is terrible. Customer compensation, lost revenue and business.

They could also lose a lot of good talent in protest over this, I would wager given the current economic state that they already have a great deal of open positions they cannot even fill.

Seems like a great way to do bad business. Remember all business is there to make money, they aren't there to get political, or get involved with society issues all they really want to do is make money.

BCA6010 · Answer

Promotions should be based on merits, period. A company that goes out of its way to meet something stupid like a "diversity quota" cares more about appeasing an imaginary base that doesn't keep them in business than giving competitive service or a quality product, at which point they don't deserve to be a successful business. I've never known a single person to go out of their way to buy goods or services from a business just because they "have the most minorities in executive roles," but I know a LOT of people who will go out of their way to avoid companies who put their image ahead of customers.

My best manager right now is someone who I guarantee I don't see eye to eye with on basically anything except for her performance as a manager, but she'd be the first person I'd recommend for a higher position or even just a simple raise. That's how it should be.

BeMuse · Answer

If that was my work environment, I’d take my talent somewhere else or work for myself. You have to be able to spot a sinking ship and make early moves for the life boats. At the end of the day you are looking out for yourself and your family. If a company is run poorly it will be unprofitable. If it is unprofitable, eventually they will start sacking people, and you’ll be first on the chopping block due to their ideological beliefs. So, just interview with other companies and make a move. Leave them to fail with their ranks populated with losers that got their job because of their skin color rather than their talent and work ethic. Companies come and go every day.

420Rachel · Answer

I think it's bullshit. A job should go to the person BEST qualified regardless of race or gender. It seems like a lot of places of business are trying to reach some kind of "diversity" quota and they're not hiring the best people for the job, just people who are marginalized so that the company can look better in the public's eye. I thought the core ideal of feminism was supposed to be equality and equal opportunity. It's original ideals have become so twisted.

notwoke · Answer

it'll be interesting to see how this ends. I've witnessed this occurring over a 28 yr career. It was happening in the 1990's when I graduated and still is. We just didn't virtue signal so much back then. It doesn't seem to be working. I can explain why it hasn't resulted in many female executives. The women who are promoted in this way are most likely educated and will therefore move or exist mostly in a circle of educated men. I can name countless female engineers on a promotional path who inevitably marry a successful male engineer and somewhere down the road they decide they have enough money and value piece of mind and family time and the woman quits working to devote herself to maximizing the childrens upbringing. repeat, repeat repeat

SnakeBoop · Answer

Do you for definite know that it was skin colour that determined who got the promotion? If you have proof etc, then the girl should appeal it and look up discrimination laws.
Otherwise, maybe take a step back to see how the person goes rather than assuming race is the issue.

HighValue · Answer

That happened to me. I was twice as experienced and where I worked hired a Black woman for "diversity." I ended up having to teach her how to do parts of the job because she wasn't qualified.
It is pretty common. Women and Black people get promotions and jobs to fill diversity quotas regardless of qualifications.

Adam1978 · Answer

It's completely unfair, the job should go to the best candidate. And diversity causes lesser candidates, since they can't just pick from the winning formula but needs to settle with lower quality because they focus on a parameter that is for most parts irrelevant.

Curmudgeon · Answer

It's lame and Leftist indoctrinated, and it is a clear sign for the more qualified man or woman to move on to somewhere else. After all, since corporations no longer follow the "lifetime employment for loyalty" model that they did in my parent's day, the more qualified person owes that company nothing.

420happy69holiday · Answer

They're all just trying to make more money. These corporations are full of white corporate executives and they just care about whatever is going to make them more popular to the culture. In Oregon they're changing the math requirements to graduate high school to accommodate for the "colored students" which is offensive to myself a black person and to white people. Things are slowly flipping and soon whites will be in the position that blacks were in in the '60s and it's not going to be good. We're just continuing this perpetual chain of hatred and slavery we need to break this chain.

jillybeanns · Answer

It’s a woman of color, I think it’s a form of discrimination in itself. You’re denying a person a position in management because of their skin color. Unless this is a company/city wide standard based on the demographics in the city, I think it is unfair and should not be tolerated. They’re essentially setting the POC up for failure and possibly workplace hostility.

Miristheiss · Answer

It is evil.

Hiring, firing, promotions, demotions... all of this... should be based on MERIT, TALENT, SKILL, COMPETENCY!!!

Anyone in this day and age who could seriously say the RACE of a person should have a say in the issue or worse be the DECIDING part of an issue is evil. They are down right evil.

Wester1967 · Answer

In theory, it was a great idea coming out of jim crow and segregation. However, 60 years on, it has turned meritocracy upside down and helps promote corruption, and fosters bitterness. Not just in right wing MFs either. It reeks of marketing and not competence or productivity. Notice how Goldman Sachs gave their multi billion dollar grants to black women only. While competent, productive black men get left in the dust. Zaddy at work. There is much much more to it now than Di-versity

libsaretards · Answer

That is how a company sets itself up for failure. Making a choice for the sake of diversity is not always the right call. Let the liberals and those in fields who can afford to live in fantasies worry about that. When it comes to filling a critical position, go for skill, not different skin pigmentation.

AdithyaR · Answer

Coming from a brown Asian guy (Indian), diversity is about allowing minority communities to have opportunities to prove themselves and have equal chances as privileged people. It's not about giving them free things.
If the colored person was just as skilled as the other other girl or more skilled then it's acceptable, otherwise there's no point.

lovedejj_xo · Answer

This happened and is happening at my work and I actually spoke up about it as a black female so they were shocked. It’s not okay and sometimes I do believe the equity piece is taken too far. Don’t make me look bad.

BlacktyBlaque · Answer

Sounds good to me you can sue. Just like when it happens to other groups sex, age, religion, political affiliation, gay, or race.

Welcome to the club.

And it's funny cuz it's a white person doing it to another white person lol.

Anyway you can sis.

Luopio27 · Answer

Sorry to doubt anyone but the world of business is never based on anything fair as long as some people earn millions of dollars a year while most, just enough to provide their family.

Owners of companies and highest leaders do what ever they want. No matter what laws are out up, others find ways around them.

nice-girl · Answer

This is subjective, it might have been up to the boss or whoever had to make that choice. It’s not right or wrong. They may choose whoever they think is right for the position as long as they fulfill the requirements.

bamesjond0069 · Answer

She should quit and cite the reason of looking for higher positions. If she doesn't have the balls she's going to get stepped all over.

Right when they do these things they are at their weakest. A year later nobody will care anymore. The poor choice rn is a big chance. They can't afford to lose their best employee while taking a big chance. Once the random choice either does well and is settled or flunks out and is replaced they can risk losing a great employee. Hope that makes sense.

Anonymous · Answer

Yeah, that's racist.
Start looking for another job and when your interviewer asks you about your motivation for changing jobs, you may state something like "due to discrimination based on races, that I won't go into too much detail.".

Also leave a negative feedback on that company once you're gone.

hhadeshatesme · Answer

I believe that diversity in the workplace is important considering it hasn’t always been acceptable. but promotions should always come down to whose the most qualified instead of just picking someone to be the token poc

sage2021 · Answer

Sorry but I no longer give my opinion to anonymous asker's

JCrockett · Answer

It's fucking bullshit. People who support it are openly admitting that they are morally and intellectually unqualified to attain any degree of respect from others.

exitseven · Answer

This is Bidens America, Everything is about race, not qualifications or competency. Biden brags that his cabinet is the most diverse in history. He hired based on race and not on merit. The results speak for themselves.

Anonymous · Answer

you need to have physical actual proof it was racism otherwise they won't care and dismiss it. i went through the same thing when applying for a position at cvs 10 years ago and the case got dismissed because i didn't have any physical proof even though i was the only white male (correction only white person) there

Diodoro · Answer

Based on your story you don't even know, but think this was the case. And you're using this to say it happened lol

Hyped_up_on_coffee · Answer

They should just move laterally to a different company. And make more money. It doesn’t matter cause everyone is hiring.

Xtcy2083 · Answer

Which company do you work for? I want to know, so that I can never buy their products or use their services again.

OddBeMe · Answer

It’s actually very likely that everyone around thought she deserved it when the manager hired the POC based on experience and attributes. Tbh, affirmative action doesn’t happen much farther up the managerial chain.

Guanfei · Answer

There is no "affirmative action", only discrimination and racism under the excuse of a made up equality.
Nothing positive for the guy who just wanted a job and is now still unemployed because he was too pale.

doopayo · Answer

I’m gonna bet this never happened because there’s a reason why you went anonymous to post this

Anajuxr · Answer

I agree 100% even being white.  It's historical reparation.

spartan55 · Answer

It's called Affirmative Action... and unfortunately it's been around far too long.

cloud9vortex1234 · Answer

It's Woke Politics at the Workplace. Give people Equal Opportunity, but not at the expense of abilities. People have died in the Operating Room because of this.

FunkyMonkee · Answer

What an incredibly stupid ass bullshit RACIST idea!!!

BlaiseTed · Answer

It is stupid. Race shouldn't matter. Competence should.

genericname85 · Answer

it's the ideological cancer that ruins our society right now. it's straight up racism that disguises itself as "social justice".

RationalMale · Answer

That's really what the left is pushing for. They despise white people and want legal discrimination against them.

Darksign · Answer

Extremely racist and ridiculous. The country is mostly white what the fuck do you expect. Black/brown privilege

noohair · Answer

That is how the Federal Government works and people wonder why the IRS does not work right and Veterans can't get benefits.

unknown_xoxo · Answer

Since u trying to promote equality why deny them? Can't u just employ the candidate who is most qualified for the job? Or make 2 positions in which to employ them both?

TexasRed95 · Answer

That's discrimination and 100% illegal. They can get in severe legal trouble.

najekim · Answer

Promotions should be based on the person's ability to do the job, not the color of their skin.

Quigly · Answer

Stop buying their products or services. Spread the information across the internet along with the name of the company to boycott.

Pterodon · Answer

It’s called affirmative action and it’s legal discrimination and has been around for a very long time

crmoore · Answer

Blatant racism, anti-intellectual, most definitely anti-MLK, and indisputably despicable.

Fuentes · Answer

Hard work is what pays off but the time it just the best ass kissers who get moved up

Anonymous · Answer

Not a great long term business move, but may seem like a good sort term solution.

Anonymous · Answer

I think its good we need more diversity of people getting promoted

hafinjun · Answer

Didn't this used to be called affirmative action?

humpbackjack · Answer

I see a lawsuit in their future yeah pretty stupid

_piotr · Answer

Discrimination of white people.

What do you think about denying white people promotions due to needing more diversity in management positions (this happened at my work)?

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