Why do people say the USA has a worse education system than France when the US has Harvard and Stanford Uni better than most European universities?

[Imnobody711]

Why do people say the USA has a worse education system than France when the US has Harvard and Stanford Uni better than most European universities besides UK universities :Oxford and Cambridge uni which are equally as good but still not better than Stanford or Harvard?

But besides, Oxford and Cambridge, I can't think of many (if any) European universities ( including Sorbonne uni in Paris) as good or better than Stanford and Harvard?

I can't think of a European university as prodigous and famous as American universities such as Harvard and Stanford

Also despite what people say about American education system, Americans are quite smart and intelligent especially white caucasian americans since they are originally from Europe

[patois]

Current Europeans are just jealous of Americans because their forebearers were the weak blood that didn't get picked for the kickball team of life as the strong left Europe to explore new lands and reap the benefits. So they sit in their D&D circles in their mom's basement talking about how they are so clever while America is the world's only superpower. The proof is in the results.

[CupcakeTheDestroyer]

When they say the American education system sucks, they’re talking about the public education system. Harvard and Stanford are both private universities. And most people are correct, the American public education system leaves a lot to be desired not only because of the fact that its consumer-worker standard hasn’t been updated in 2 centuries, but because having a high school degree alone no longer guarantees the quality of life it used to. The criticisms are valid.

[Imnobody711]

Well accoording to chat gbt what you said is partially wrong because American private unis such as princeton, stanford and harvard but public US unis such as University of California, Berkeley (UC Berkeley)
University of Michigan,
University of California, Los Angeles (UCLA)
University of Virginia
University of North Carolina
University of California, (UCSD)
University of Wisconsin
University of Washington
University of Texas at Austin
University of Illinois

are equally if not better than most European unis ( incuding French unis such as Sorbonne, Aix-marseille uni) except from oxford and cambridge unis in the uk

There are several highly regarded public universities in the United States known for their academic excellence, research contributions, and reputation. While rankings can vary depending on the criteria and methodology used, the following public universities are often recognized as among the best:

These universities are known for their strong academic programs, research output, faculty expertise, and diverse student communities. However, it's important to note that there are many other excellent public universities in the United States, and the choice of the "best" university will depend on an individual's specific academic interests, career goals, and personal preferences. It's advisable to thoroughly research and consider factors such as program offerings, faculty, resources, location, and opportunities that align with your academic and career aspirations when evaluating universities.

American universities like Stanford, Harvard, UC Berkeley, and UCLA are renowned for their comprehensive academic programs, research output, faculty expertise, and global reputation. They often attract top students and faculty from around the world.

So it's not just private US unis that are better than European unis ( beside oxford and cambridge) but even public US ones are on par or even better then European unis

[CupcakeTheDestroyer]

Isn’t ChatGPT notorious for its blatant misinformation?

[DishLady]

Are we playing dumb here? Who do you think are in Harvard and Stanford? First gen and immigrant students on international scholarships. Why? Bc PreK-12 EDUCATION IS HORRIBLE in the US… which is what the millions of professional articles written monthly on this topic are about. SMH…

[Zenpanda]

1. If I place a water reservoir in Africa with the clean what water on earth. Does that mean that Africa has the cleanest tapwater? No, just because some is good, doesn't mean all is good.
2. Did you just try to link intelligence to ethnicity? Because if so, you're pretty stupid for being of the ethnicity you deem smarter.

[Imnobody711]

No intelligence is linked not only to ethicity but you can tell if someone is mart based on their names/surnames

Also girls with green eyes are usually smart

[AviatorTom]

Simple... look at average American students' test scores vs most other countries, including France. Just because there are a few high points doesn't mean the overall is good. If every apple at the grocery store shows signs of rotting, except for one perfect apple, does that mean the group of apples is good?

[Imnobody711]

So if the French have better schools, better universities, better teachers? Why are the French so clueless?

[FunkyMonkee]

Have you SEEN the intellect (or severe lack thereof) coming out of schools, these days!! HOLY FUCK!! Kids today can't even read a clock, have no clue where the United States is on a map or how many states we have!! Even Barry Soetoro said there were 58!! Joey said there are 54!!

[Imnobody711]

Yeah but most white Americans ( and some black too) are of British/English/European descent so their intelligene equals thosee from Europe since most Americans ( especially from the midwest, the East Coast ( NYC, Philly, Boston, Washington DC) are of Europeann descent
I'm not talking about teenagers, I'm talking about Americans agedd 18-45 they are smart and intelligent not dumb and stupid
Some of the most famous intelligent people come from the USA: Mulder from X files ( all the cast of x files actually: SKinner, Mulder,), Sheldon from TBBT, A Eminem aka Marshal Mathers, most of the cast from BTVS ( Alyson Hannigan, Seth Green, James Marsters, Nicolas Brendon), cast from Grimm, Jake Gyllenhaal, Bradley Cooper, Matt Damon, etc

My point is (White Caucasian) Americans are among the smartest and most intelligent people in the world. Just watch LMN or lifetime movies and you can tell the actors and actresses who are just regular American people ( not hollywood actors) most are smart and intelligent

[FunkyMonkee]

I'm not talking about JUST blacks, either! I have been reading comments and e-mails from LOADS of Americans and, most of them can't spell simple words or know the differences between words like to, too, two and tutu. These are NOT just teenagers! I used to work in a print shop with a woman that graduated high school in the early `60's and she STILL couldn't spell simple words!!

[Imnobody711]

Mistyping does NOT define intelligence, It doesn't mean they are NOT smart. Nor does it mean they are stupid. It could be typing errors ( if someone's stoned or drunk for example, it's normal to istype words) . It doesn't mean they do not know how to write that specific word properly with the proper grammar.

[FunkyMonkee]

It's nothing to do with mistyping. Especially when they keep making the same mistakes over and over again.

[purplepoppy]

Europeans. The world is billions of years old, created through the laws of physics and inhabited by life that evolved via natural selection.

Americans. The world is flat as a pancake, a few thousand years old and inhabited by life put there by God in one day.

[Imnobody711]

Your 1 statement may be true but your 2nd you're couldn't be more wrong and it's totallly bulls**t and a stupid answer. No offence!

The statement "Americans. The world is flat as a pancake" is not accurate. It is a misrepresentation and stereotype that does not reflect the beliefs of the majority of Americans or the geographical reality of the United States.

The United States is a vast country with diverse geography, including mountains, valleys, hills, plains, and various topographical features. From the Rocky Mountains to the Appalachian Mountains, from the Grand Canyon to the Great Plains, the United States has a wide range of landscapes that clearly demonstrate the Earth's non-flat nature.

On the other hand, European countries like the Netherlands and parts of England do have relatively flat terrain.

Go figure LMFAO

[RedInnocent69]

@purplepoppy exactly.

[handsomelad70]

The USA's top universities are chock-a-block with "legacies,"i. e., the often-dullard daughters and sons of donors who are there instead of bright poorer young folk. The main reason America's ruling class is mentally and morally ossified is because of these overlords' not receiving much new blood, only the same generational muck-a-mucks who get progressively dumber through the ages.

[DryGermanGuy]

How representative is a Harvard or Stanford education in relation to the whole country? Also, the main criticism is regarding the schools, not the universities. That’s where the damage is done.

[SotiCoto]

Most americans aren't "quite smart". You can't just piggyback on the extreme minority that are.

Admittedly the same is true of the UK.

[RedInnocent69]

Because education at the highest is largely privatized, and not accessible to many Americans. No one’s saying Harvard and Stanford aren’t great schools, but on average France is probably better.

[Imnobody711]

LOL are you f***** kidding me? Really? What universities in France (or schools for that matter) are better than Stanford and Harvard university and other American universities?

[RedInnocent69]

Not in the least.

[Sasquach]

It usually breaks down to one of two points -
Foreign languages are mandatory in elementary schools overseas. Or, school is prohibitively expensive in the US

[Anonymous]

That American education system is ran by Americans.

[jahaims]

The American education system is an indoctrination system

[Anonymous]

Harvard and Stanford aren't what they used to be, they're only in the business of indoctrinating students into leftist politics now.