What FACTUAL preconditions & MEANINGFUL training, IF ANY, should be in place BEFORE ARMED NATL guards engage in CIVILIAN URBAN LAW ENFORCEMENT? ?

[DrPepper12]

[BadApple69]

I don’t believe any additional training is required. Our troops are often used as peace keepers. That’s all they are in DC to do. They are not in DC to make arrests that’s left up to law enforcement. Their presence will stop crime.

[DrPepper12]

Peacekeepers where? Finish the sentence

[BadApple69]

Currently, the United States provides military observers and UN police for eight peacekeeping missions: Liberia (UNMIL), the Democratic Republic of the Congo (MONUC), Sudan (UNMIS), Ethiopia/Eritrea (UNMEE), Haiti (MINUSTAH), Timor-Leste (UNMIT), the Middle East (UNTSO), and Kosovo (UNMIK).

This is only currently. There has been many in the past.

[DrPepper12]

So internationally. How about domestic?

[BadApple69]

What does it matter where you do the peace keeping. American soldiers / national guard take an oath to protect the constitution against enemies foreign and domestic. Any methods they use to do this will be constitutional. Crime is down in DC since this started… DC has been averaging 1 death every other day now it’s been 14 days since Trump started cleaning up the streets and zero deaths. Isn’t that a good thing?

[DrPepper12]

No. It is not a "good thing". Process matters just as much as results

[BadApple69]

Which process are you referring to?
I think what matters is these town counsels that tie the hands of local law enforcement. I think what matters is no cash bail. I think what Trump is doing here (he is always playing 3D chess) is to show Americans that they don’t have to live with crime. It is fixable and that crime is being allowed by the democrats. When he stops using the national guard and federal police in DC the crime will return and Trump will point out why. This will show that it can be done and that democrats are just soft on crime.

[slatyb]

they should never engage in civilian law enforcement

[DrPepper12]

They should under limited circumstances as a supplement, not a lead

[slatyb]

Only if there has been a natural disaster and there is looting of uninhabited property.

[AI Opinion]

Involving National Guard forces in civilian urban law enforcement requires careful consideration and thorough preparation. Firstly, clear legal preconditions must be established, typically through a request from state authorities or a declaration of emergency. Training should focus on de-escalation techniques, crowd control, and understanding civilian rights. Cultural sensitivity and communication skills are crucial to maintaining public trust and ensuring safety. Coordination with local law enforcement is essential to align objectives and actions, ensuring a cohesive response. Most importantly, transparent oversight mechanisms should be in place to monitor actions and maintain accountability.

[Still-alive]

There is none. this is just them using any flimsy excuse to send them in and provoke ANY kind of confrontation to happen so they can pass martial law and take even more rights away to do whatever they want.

Also that seeyounexttuesday account is a maga shill don't believe him.

[exitseven]

They have already gone through military basic training so they are proficient in firearms and hand to hand combat. That pretty much is the skillset they will need when engaging in urban warfare.

[Dongie]

Any uprising or quoting is cause and training from military boot camp with extra hand to hand combat. Classroom time to make sure they understand these are friends and neighbors.

[Dongie]

*rioting not quoting

[DrPepper12]

Right. Cuz civilian cops already understand that... JFC You're nuys

[Dongie]

I imagine they declare this in many ways. It's just common sense to treat the misguided as such. They're fellow countrymen.

[Pterodon]

They’re already trained. I’ve been under martial law before April 10-15 , 1979 in Wichita Falls, TX after a tornado. The NG was very professional and helpful and stopped the looting.

[DrPepper12]

Seriously? WHAT TRAUNING? which states?

[slatyb]

Right, but Washington DC is nothing like Wichita Falls after a tornado. There is no looting.

[Pterodon]

@slatyb no there’s much worse in DC and they train all the time. They have to be. The NG can and has been called into foreign wars at a moments notice.

[slatyb]

Much worse? Like what? Several cities in the southern states are far more crime-ridden than DC.

[Pterodon]

But those southern cities are not sanctuary cities nor are they soft on crime. They did not tell Trump they weren’t going to cooperate with ICE which is the law. So stfu

[exitseven]

@slatyb yea, ask the poor storekeepers if there is any looting g?

[seeyounexttuesday]

How angry are you that murders are down in DC?

[DrPepper12]

The ends MUST be justified by the means.

[seeyounexttuesday]

The residents of DC who had to deal with the constant crime are overjoyed their city is safer.

[slatyb]

Since when? The murder rates in most red states are far higher than they are in DC

[seeyounexttuesday]

@slatyb you mean the democrat run cities in red states.

[slatyb]

Not all crime occurs in cities. There is a lot of rural crime, but the locals pretend that life is worse in cities.

[seeyounexttuesday]

@slatyb Again, the places in the red states with the higher murder rates are democrat-run cities. Reading is fundamental.

[slatyb]

Great, since you made an assertion you can provide a link to some data. I think you are just repeating MAGA bullshit.

[seeyounexttuesday]

@slatyb lol. I'm not spending hours proving the truth to you. HEre's the link to the cities with the highest homicide rate. you're a big boy, you can google the mayors of each city

freedomforallamericans.org/.../

[slatyb]

That leaves out all the small and very violent cities like Shreveport, LA.

[seeyounexttuesday]

@slatyb I gave you the murder rate for the top 10 cities in the US. You're moving goal posts now?

[slatyb]

You chose those goal posts. Here's another fact: Shreveport, LA, had a murder rate of 41.07 homicides per 100,000 people in 2022.

States with the highest murder rates:

State Age-adjusted homicide rate per 100,000 people
Mississippi 20.7
Louisiana 19.8
Alabama 14.9
New Mexico 14.5
Missouri 12.8
Arkansas 11.8
South Carolina 11.8
Maryland 11.4
Georgia 11.3
Tennessee 11.0

So the deep south is a dangerous place to live.

[seeyounexttuesday]

@slatyb It’s the cost of 13/53

[slatyb]

? maybe that's what happens when all the competent people move away

[seeyounexttuesday]

@slatyb in case you aren’t aware people are moving out of the shitty blue states in droves.

[slatyb]

They are moving back out of Austin because of Texas ridiculous legislation. Seattle is still one of the fastest growing cities in the US, as it has been for a decade

[seeyounexttuesday]

@slatyb one city doesn’t invalidate the truth.

[slatyb]

The truth is that the most violent states vote Republican. New York City is one of the safest in the world.

[seeyounexttuesday]

@slatyb once again, the Republican states have democrat-run cities that are where the violence is clustered. You can lie all you want, but the truth is the truth.