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It's hard to say I feel like children shouldn't be told about this so young, but at the same time homosexuality is becoming more accepted by the mainstream and straight people are shown on childrens shows so I guess in a way it's more reflective of modern society.
Do it! To quote a great philosopher:
"No matter what is it, with children, get them started early"
-Ronald_25
The sooner they learn, the sooner they decide their personality, the sooner they can come out of the closet and the sooner they can find sexual happiness in their adult years. Let's encourage children, so they spend the least amount of time in the closet.
I dont think its appropriate for kids. I also think the whole LGBTQHD community are horrible people, quit pushing that shit on us. They cry bloody murder if you try to push religion (with exception of Islam), so why are you pushing your gay tranny shit on us GTFOH.
To be honest, I've grown estranged from modern television these days and how a lot of it is so PC. I see no need for it. I see no need for an exorbitant amount of time spent in front of the television. When you're 84, you're not going to look back on life and think, "wow, I'm so glad I watched all those shows"
If it happened once and a while, sure, but every show has at least one LGQBTERTY$IOPOYDSDFGHJKKJHGFDFG character in it now. It seems like every show has to follow some bullshit check list for a cast of characters. It's all forced at this point and does not flow with the story most of the time.
As others have pointed out, as long as it isn't forced and the characters are actually written like humans.
A good children's movie/series, should be watchable for adults as well I believe, Imagine Mr. Rogers!
Adam_INTJ's Islamic faith is strong. You can't reason with him.
that shit has no place in children's shows. Especially now that science, the once self-proclaimed God of the liberals," found that there is NO gay gene. So being gay has been proven to be a choice. This means that rather than pushing "acceptance", Disney and others who consistently push the "gay agenda" are pushing indoctrination. Making attempts and normalization of deviant behavior. Nothing else.
Lol, the gay agenda. There ain't nothing immoral about being gay.
This is what happens when you only read the title of an article instead of the actual article. When science said there is no gay gene, they weren't saying that homosexuality isn't genetic. What they're saying is that homosexuality is not caused by a SINGLE GENE, but more likely by the interaction of multiples genes working in unison.
Why would anyone choose to be gay?
This is pretty accurate, but while being gay is a choice according to genetics, it isn't much of a choice according to society, as society normalizes homosexuality a child will adapt to that and will therefore be more open to be gay and grow it in their mind, you can call it a mental illness or see its progression as a form of complex/abnormality in someone's body and mind.
@Starrk I know what it says. This isn't new news to me. I also knew the minute they couldn't find the "gay gene" which they WERE searching for, they would say it must be caused by several genes working in combination. Also in the news this year are many famous people CHOOSING to be gay. Doesn't sound like a gene thing to me. Almost sounds like... a choice. I'm no stranger to liberal-run science. Like I said... indoctrination.
Do you want us to buy your water filters?
The old "I knew it all along" phenomenal also known as "hindsight bias". Yeah, that's not a rebuttal. No one in any science field believes Homosexuality is a choice. If it was that easy then conversion therapy should have been successful back in the 20th century. Threatening gay people with punishment and death should have also been successful. Implementing laws that outright discriminate against them should have been successful. Families disowning their gay children should have been successful. All of these things should have worked in converting gay people straight if it was just something you can switch on and off like a light switch.
The same way straight people don't choose to be straight the same applies to gay people.
@Starrk whatever argument you're trying to present here, even if it's valid, it's pointless and baseless.
@Syrian_survivor
It can't be baseless if it's supported by very field within science that studies this topic. We have studies where the results directly contradict the idea that homosexuality is a choice. The real baseless argument is the one you support. I still have not seen a single valid argument by you are anyone else why sexual orientation is a choice and not an inherent quality.
@Starrk it makes no sense for homosexuality to be a natural inherent quality as it's disadvantageous for the human species, the terms "natural" and "homosexuality" can't go together, and don't go comparing us to other species that practice homosexuality because those practices have actual purposes in those species' lives, what humans have here is simply perversion, one that goes against humans' reproductive nature, therefore unnatural, do you understand?
There is no gay gene, there isn't a gay gene set, there are no certain genes that make a person gay, that is absolutely false as I have done my real-life research, off the internet and on it, I'll gladly explain if you want me to but it would be a waste of time, just know that.
So while I disagree with the "homosexuality is natural" statement, I do agree that it's not a choice in most western societies, as the biggest and perhaps the most effective factor in homosexuality spreading is basically normalizing it in a society, kids are curious and looking to try new things, their brains are sponges, you can turn a kid to whatever you want if you put a thought in its head as "okay" or "true", like back when Spartans made literal killing machines out of their children.
What we have isn't much of a scientific phenomenon, it's more an environmental one, more focused on psychology and mentality than science.
@Syrian_survivor
"it makes no sense for homosexuality to be a natural inherent quality as it's disadvantageous for the human species"
It's not disadvantageous, that's an opinion of yours. And even if it was, whoever said evolution was perfect. There are many innate qualities about humans that are a disadvantage for us, with some of them being deadly. For example, the way our throat is designed is terrible because it makes chocking on food or contracting pneumonia far easier to occur. Males testicles being exposed is a design flaw that makes us vulnerable. Our narrow pelvis is another flaw, especially in women who have to push a baby out through it. Our mouth is too small for the number of teeth we have. Our spine is curved in the wrong location, which is why back pain is so common in people. Our retina is designed is a way that actually encourages a detached retina to potentially occur, which is the leading cause of blindness in humans. I can go on and on. Moral of the story, evolution is far from being perfect. Evolution simply provides us the bare minimum for survival, that's it.
"I'll gladly explain if you want me to but it would be a waste of time, just know that."
Please explain. I find it exciting that you manage to find the answer that scientists couldn't.
" the biggest and perhaps the most effective factor in homosexuality spreading is basically normalizing it in a society"
Let me guess. This is based on nothing. Newsflash homosexuality was prevalent when it wasn't normalized. Hell, it's prevalent in nations that make homosexuality a crime punishable by death. So obviously society's acceptance/unacceptance of homosexuality has no effects on its prevalence.
@Syrian_survivor
"kids are curious and looking to try new things, their brains are sponges, you can turn a kid to whatever you want if you put a thought in its head as "okay" or "true""
It doesn't work like that. Yeah, you can teach a kid a lot of things such as learning a new language or learning how to play basketball or learning how to read. However, you do not learn to be homosexual and you do not unlearn to be heterosexual. If learning was the key then homosexuality shouldn't exist since gay people are usually born and raised in heterosexual households where they are constantly exposed to heterosexual parents.
"What we have isn't much of a scientific phenomenon, it's more an environmental one, more focused on psychology and mentality than science."
First of all, Psychology is a Science.
Second, I'm a Psychology Grad and I can tell you that the vast majority of Psychologists believe Homosexuality is innate and not something you can change. The APA (American Psychological Association) is the largest organization of Psychologists in the world, and they debunked the idea that homosexuality is a mental problem back in 1973.
https://www.apa.org/topics/lgbt/orientation
@Syrian_survivor I had a sociology professor that told us that homosexuality could possibly be nature’s population control.
@Asker there's no way for human evolution to know that people need to stop making babies, there are no natural receptors to get that information other than thoughts in the brain, which our genes can't really interact much with let alone change human evolution because of them.
I have no problem with it because it’s only regarding preference for the same sex, and it’s a lifestyle choice many people have had long before media influence.
If they started introducing non-binary characters or any new unnatural, complex “trends” in a positive light (which could manipulate vulnerable youths into living similarly), then I’d call for a boycott 😡
This is the hypocrisy of GaG. The same males here who are against gay characters on kids television are the same one claiming there is no difference between the sexes.
Weirdness.
I think, as long as it's not obviously forced to create diversity in a cast, it's very nice and gets children introduced to same Sex couples in a friendly way. Especially cartoons (Steven universe, etc) could help with normalising lgbt couples
Disney is turning over in his grave! Since it has been PROVEN that there is no "gay gene", we know that it IS learned or acquired behavior. It has no part in being thrown up ion kids' faces, or anyone else's, for that matter.
I’m sure Walt Disney would not be to happy about many aspects of Disney now.
Excuse me, its not learned behavior. We in the field of Psychology, as well as Psychiatry, debunked that decades ago. You can't alter someone's sexual orientation. It doesn't matter how much gay porn I forced you to watch, you're not suddenly going to have desires to have sex with men or worship dicks. It doesn't work like that and if it did then conversion therapy should have been successful in converting people straight.
@Starrk Excuse me, there is no gay gene. Stanley Center for Psychiatric Research at the Broad Institute of MIT and Harvard recently showed that there's no such thing as a "gay gene" that drives a person's sexual behavior, as they concluded the largest genetic study ever conducted on the issue.
No, that's incorrect. They concluded that there isn't a SINGLE GENE that dictates sexual orientation, but rather sexual orientation is a lot more complex than we originally believed. Originally the common belief amongst some was that there was one all-powerful singular gene that gay people have (that straight people do not have) that made them gay. However, this study, as well as many previous ones, have concluded that sexual orientation is most likely a byproduct of genetics, environment, and biology working together.
Regardless, the premise that being gay is a choice, just like how you choose between chocolate and vanilla ice cream is unfounded, and no literature supports such an idea.
As the picture shows in the thumbnail, and as a childhood favorite, Arthur is an old show. So is the Mr Ratburn character. Close to 20 years I think. While I don't have a problem with gay rights, I do have a problem with it being in a show for Y7 viewers. It's really not necessary. It's suppose to be about intellectual education. Not gay rights.
I think it's a good idea as every family is diffrent life changers u eather respect it and move on or stsy wgere u are and get left behind
I think people think it's wrong cus they don't understand but insted of learning some don't that's what I call closed mined ignorant people
Pro. We need to get over this homophilia. Being gay is natural. People can’t be turned gay. Children aren’t in danger from gays.
I partially agree with what you wrote: "We need to get over this homophilia."
Homophilia and homophobia sounds both very wrong to me.
Damn true. The amount of idiocy and lack of knowledge in people has gone beyond limits. You can't turn anyone into being gay, same as you can't turn anyone into being straight. No matter what kids watch, they will be what they will be, nothing influences sexuality. I mean if it was true then homosexuality wouldn't exist (because it was hidden so far and yet homosexuality still existed)!
@little_bird1 I think you can have a good match with @OddBeMe but sadly not in a good way... You wrote: "No matter what kids watch, they will be what they will be, nothing influences sexuality."
We probably don't live in the same world... I'm in the one where pornography and society alter more and more the behaviour of young people, including their sexuality, where they find "normal" some things that are really not.
@liampoy Yes, I meant homophobia, sorry.
@little_bird1 Sorry, the science isn’t with you. In fact it’s the opposite. Most studies show access to porn has brought down sexual assaults the last several decades. Now degrading, objectifying women, that’s a different story. But like violent films and mass shootings, there’s no connection.
What gives you the right to say what's normal and what's not, huh? Who the fuck are you to judge? And you're comparing LGBTQ to crime, are you kidding me? You are 35 year old grown man and you still haven't educated yourself one bit about moral or anything related to common sense. Don't even there bringing "science" into this because we both know you are not educated enough to know.
@little_bird1 @OddBeMe I think you both are confused and don't really know what you are talking about, so It's my last answer here or it would not end. This world is crazy and I know I won't change it.
I don’t mind children knowing LGBTQ people exist, are people, can be good people, etc. But I think it should be done at an appropriate age— a 6 year old doesn’t need to know about and understand LGBTQ people. I also don’t want them thinking that they are the norm. Because statistically they aren’t.
I don't much care. There are ways to do it poorly (like the token gay, 1 dimensional character who's only trait is "I'm gay") but for some it's handled well.
There is also the Schrödinger's characteristic (if a characteristic isn't defined it is whatever each individual viewer feels it should be, all at the same time)
I dont think the whole gay thing should be exposed to kids. Kids are supposed enjoy their childhood not worry about their fucking sexuality.
I don't care. It's not like they don't exist. People need to stop trying to shield their kids from things that literally are not problems.
This is ridiculous we really have to put this on TV this is what we want to teach your kids now I'm a little boy or girl grows up they don't really know what they're just because everybody puts these thoughts in their head why don't you just let it eat that you're all and just look up Adam and Eve kind of a thing huh I don't know you don't see two coyotes holding hands anyway that's my opinion
I don't mind it. I'm more concerned about the idea of mandatory LGBT sex education taught in public schools and parents having no say in whether or not their children get sex changes.