Do you think JK Rowling is being treated fairly?

[Anonymous]

So JK Rowlings. The author of the harry potter series is facing backlash regard some transphobic comments

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Its a bit confusing for me why she is being attacked. I mean she was one of the first people to support gay and lgbt people. She made dumbldore (sorry for the misspelling) a gay man. Which has nothing to do with the plot. Like it doesn’t serve the plot in any way. She only did it to support them and now she is being attacked by them. that is very confusing

[Anonymous]

Which transphobic comments, exactly?

What I think is that there's not only the obvious gap between those who are 'in favor' of trans rights and 'opposed' to trans rights, there are actually significant differences in viewpoints between various people who are 'in favor'. But nobody is allowed to talk about it, because they would be accused of being against trans rights.

I have not studied every comment she made, but i think some of what she said is actually in line with what the average non-twitter obsessed liberal thinks. Of course it's not what's approved by activists, so she was 'cancelled'* and people are Very Very Hurt and Very Disappointed and unsure if they continue to view the harry potter world as the lens through which they view all real world reality, which is maybe a good thing but anyway.

As far as I can tell, she has not argued that gender or sex are different, or that people can't be permitted to be trans. She has argued that sex - as distinct from gender - is a thing that sometimes matters. Very very few people actually disagree, but if they're liberal, they tend to shut up about it for fear of being accused of being transphobic. There's somewhat more of a feminist current in the UK that pushes back on this. It tends to come to the fore with things like: should rape crisis centers be able to exclude trans women as workers for the sake of the victim's comfort? What should rules about trans athletes be?

Rowling first got in hot water for complaining about the phrase 'people who menstruate'. Dumb phrase to be hung up on but you can see how it triggered her - she's pushing back on the idea, not that trans women can't exist or so on, but that the word 'woman' should solely refer to gender and in fact there's apparently to be no word referring to her class by sex!

Reminds me of a question that occurs to me that I avoid asking because it seems like trolling and really i'm supportive of the actual trans people i know in real life who typically want to live as normal a life as possible as the gender they feel, and who actually pass and are generally accepted as such. my question is when you look at, for example, single sex change rooms, people were actually not specific in the past if they were to be separate by gender or sex, because they were assumed to be the same. But if they were asked... are you sure they actually weren't designed to be separated by sex? Perhaps one room has urinals and the other doesn't because the design was for 'people with penises' and 'people with vulvas', not 'people who identify as men' and 'people who identify as women'?

*Oh i was going to comment, the fact that people like JK Rowling still soldier on when 'cancelled' is often used as evidence by those defending 'cancel culture' that it isn't a problem because look they have no power. The fact that cancel culture can be ignored by independently wealthy multimillionaires who aren't reliant on a corporate entity for support hardly proves this point. The real problem is the nobodies who can get fired or released or blacklisted and nobody cares about because, in many cases, they simply lacked the educated-class polish to speak about things in the proper way.

[Anonymous]

well I don't think a person should be "cancelled" for saying boys have a pp and girls have a virginia. That's also not trans-phobic in any way. Hate to break it to the lefties, but that is science. You know, Archaeologists have only ever identified the remains of males and the remains of females. Archaeology is science. Why can't people just trust the science? lol.

BUT she was a member of that cultist left until they came for her, so it's hard to feel too bad for her now. She wanted this for others.

[Anonymous]

No. The good majority of people who are attacking her aren't just saying they vehemently disagree with her. They're saying she's a pretty terrible person (even sometimes going so far as to say she's a true evil villain). JK Rowling's charitable contributions alone rule out the idea that she's this evil person. However, to the super vocal brand of leftists calling for her cancelation you've got to be either lock step with them in their world view or you're a terrible evil person. JK Rowling is actually very left wing in much of her world view, but she deviates with them on this one issue and suddenly she's an utterly terrible person. These people won't even truly deny that. They'll just say you're a terrible person for thinking that way too and try to cancel you out (which ironically is further evidence of the validity of this point).
I know a lot of them want to cancel JK Rowling out, but it can't happen. She's too rich and too powerful to get canceled out. For the little people that agree with her that might be another story, which is why so many keep their mouths shut even if they do agree.

[Hyped_up_on_coffee]

Yeah just because there is freedom of speech doesn’t mean there is freedom of consequence. It’s ok to have political beliefs too but it’s also she should realize that the millennials who read her novels as kids are mostly liberal and her comments could lead to her loosing her customer base. She should just keep it to herself because it makes her look bad.

[Smashingdoozy]

She is one crazy lady, the way she treats and talks about the lgbt community is the reason why I haven't bothered reading the hp series. I wanted to and was going to buy the collection then I heard about all of this. she's not getting my money 😅

There's a video of Emma Watson rolling her eyes and giving JK a dirty look on the red carpet of one of the last movies, she knew how horrible she was before we all did 👀😐

[SomeGuyCalledTom]

No, it's insane what the Far Left is doing to her, dragging her name though the mud over a tweet that wasn't even particularly controversial. Seems the transgender community have a higher protected status than Area 51. Say one little thing they don't like, and Twitter weirdos will try to literally ruin your life. It's insane.

[Jersey2]

She is right but in today’s upside down world, shitheads and nut jobs scream and stomp their feet if anyone dares to deviate from their fucked up view of the world.

And new I leave you with an excellent rendition of Mad World to reflect on this.

https://www.youtube.com/embed/aVevvbFNKiY

[Jersey2]

And now*

[Wwwyzzerdd]

She’s getting everything she deserves. If she wanted less controversy then she could keep her mouth shut and just write/rewrite her books.

She’s using a technique called “taking advantage of transnormitive culture and selling it back to them” to make money. Any time she sees the opportunity to capitalize on trans issues she will include them as it causes lgbt+ to buy her merchandise. Same thing happens with womens lib.

[Anonymous]

I don’t think she has a hateful bone in her body. A lot of overly sensitive butt hurt losers decided they didn’t like her and found a reason to attack her and an attack coming from the ‘left’ had more impact than some “Whaddya mean Dumbledore was a fag?” attack from the Right.

[Brokenheartedx]

There's a reason there is male and female, a female can't biologically become male and a male can biologically becomee female, there is an exception of hermphradite who has both reproductive organs.
A male though can dress as a woman or lob his sausage and giggleberries off and call himself a woman but he biologically is not and never will be a female, likewise with women who dress as men, they will biologically never be male. She hasn't said anything wrong in my opinion.

[Anonymous]

No I don’t think she is being treated fairly because even if she is it’s like who cares you know why focus on the crowd u don’t like. I’m not transphobic I simply don’t care but I understand people who don’t agree with it which I won’t bash them for how they feel. People have the rights to have opinions and that was Hers so.

[abc3643]

I have no comment right now on her comments or attitudes.
That said, we all have to live with the ramifications of our words and deeds.
This is a fact of life. Fairness is irrelevant because there is no concept of fairness regarding that fact.

[abc3643]

I may be wrong, but the shit that JK Rowling is getting is the kind of shit that a lot of people who may be socially liberal for not a we-need-to-change-everything-about-society know-it-all liberal have issue with...

Basically, being a man or a woman is more than just a label. Yes, genitalia are important and play a role in defining who you are in a society. Maybe people, me included, are rather irked that we need to adjust our language to accommodate the sensitivities of trans-people. Yes, it is important to recognize them, accept them, and not ostracize them. But we draw the line at saying that a trans-man (F2M) is a an actual man and a trans-woman (M2F) is an actualy woman. That may upset those trans-people and their sympathizers. I am sympathetic as well, but words have distinct meaning. When someone says to me something like "She's available. Do you think you might want to date her?" that's a loaded question with the implication on my end that "she" is an actual woman with a "born-with-it" vagina that I can have sex with. But, if I have to live in a hypersensitve trans-world, "she" becomes meaningless. For all I know, I'd date that she and then have a horrifying discovery that she pees standing up.

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[abc3643]

So, people like JK and I are drawing the line because the change in meaning of gender/sex-related words in the language to accommodate-at-all-costs trans-people is too much. We support the LGBTQ+ community, but we don't want to alter the fundamental words of our language. They need to accept that they are not (I hate saying this crudely) "real men" or "real women". I would be fine if the language creates new words to accommodate the trans-community. After all, the purpose of language is to clearly communicate and when the meanings of fundamental words are being changed that results in more ambiguity, then that defeats the purpose of language. They should understand and accept that too because every single one of us should know and understand both the actual sex and gender perception of every person they talk with or talk about.

[abc3643]

* "Maybe people..." should be "Many people".

[normalice]

I think the possibility of guys involving themselves in competitions meant for people with women's physiology, for the sake of an advantage, is kind of cringey. But apart from that i dont see why people get so frothing mad about trans people.

[AmandaYVR]

I heard she may have been judged out of context.
I'm not a fan of hers at all, but I don't jump to conclusions about these sorts of things. Snippets and tweets can get way out of hand, with #cancelculture as impulsive as it is.

[JDavid25]

I don't care much for JK, but nothin she said was "Transphobic".. So would say unfair is an understatement.

[Lynx122]

She fancied herself some woke messiah and now it's biting her in the ass so I think she got what she asked for.

[KimmyKimchi]

JK Rowling is a fuckin idiot lol, she tried to pander towards the LGBT community in the laziest ways possible in the past but she's too dumb to not make bigoted comments lmao

[Anonymous]

Yes and no.
I agree with her girls are girls boys and boys are boys.

If your gender confused or have higher chemical imbalance than gender you are born sorry for. you. but your born that gender or sex.


Now if JK wants to be apart liberal Hollywood she gotta play ball. Because they want the liberal dollar.

[Not_Average]

Lmao oh the mob is attacking her now? When are people going to give the mob the middle finger and tell them to fuck off because their bullies and entirely irrational? Dr Suess and now Harry Potter. My god I can’t stand society

[worldscolide]

I think its incredibly stupid the way they are treating her. Being trans, or having gender dysphoria is a mental disorder not a physiological one. It sickens me that everyone seems to be bending the knee to woke culture.

[worldscolide]

At your update. Its sad isn't it. The Woke idiot left basically have this mentality that if you dont believe like them you're worse than Hitler and deserve what ever attacks they dish. They are like petulant little children, deserving of a smacked bottom and told no.. they need to grow up really.

[Anonymous]

I am glad that the lunatics are completely in control of the asylum. Thank a democrat or a liberal for fostering such insane social Justice warriors. I am also glad that superior MTF transgender will dominate all of women's sports. Women and lesbians brought this about with all of their activism. Reap what you sow

[Anonymous]

Her comments weren't transphobic. The backlash is stupid.

[Nalix]

I think she's getting a good dose of what happens to those who flirt with the dark arts (Leftism). They will always betray their own. They will use you until you are no longer useful, and turn on you to feed themselves.

[Caunsos]

The continued promotion of bigot ideas after be told why those ideas bigoted and harmful shows a lot about a person. And my understanding she started including the promotion of this ideas in her writing.