Have you read berserk and do you also agree Griffith did nothing wrong?

[Creampiekarl420]

[Shadow_Monarch]

I read it. And I think he did a lot of things wrong. I admit, some of the things he did was partly Guts's fault, but Griffith did it of his own accord.
He was a great leader, and ( in that world) a fairly good person. But what he did to his former followers was downright evil.

[Creampiekarl420]

They abandoned him though

[Creampiekarl420]

I’m not saying I don’t acknowledge the evil he has done because it was evil but it wasn’t for no reason they brought it upon themselves

[Shadow_Monarch]

Didn't he get caught and tortured for having relations with the princes? Once that happened the band of the hawk were branded as criminals, and hunted down as well. They couldn't do anything to save Griffith, without Guts. They were helpless. And they wouldn't have been in that situation if Guts hadn't left, and Griffith hadn't slept with the princes. The band of the hawk had nothing to do with either of those things.
And then, Griffith kills them to get power, and rapes Casca. You ou think they, especially Casca, deserved that?

[Shadow_Monarch]

Guts deserved it, the others didn't.

[Creampiekarl420]

They didn’t even try to save him they just let him to get tortured for an entire year he was a barely conscious corpse and they just expected him to just go back to normal I don’t think so he was depressed and spiraling in despair they did nothing to help him or stop him especially casca I’m just saying if I was in his position I would’ve sacrificed them too because they betrayed him first

[Shadow_Monarch]

How could a handful of them rescue him, from an army, without Guts, while they were also running for their lives?
Would you go and rescue your commander, if the whole army was hunting you down and trying to kill you.
I know what he went through, and I understand his point of view, but that doesn't justify the evil things he did to them, and the evil he unleashed upon the world. And he did that to fullfil his own ambition, not because they betrayed him. He traded their lives for power.

[Creampiekarl420]

They did betray him because they were no longer of any use in helping him achieve his dream and I’m saying none of them tried to stop or come to his aid before he had relations with the princess and I’m not trying to justify all the other evil things he did I’m speaking specifically about what he did to his alleged comrades Griffith was always there for every one of them when they needed him most yet when things were flipped they did nothing

[Creampiekarl420]

And they didn’t even fight the army when guys did come back they knocked out a couple of guards guts broke a big door and they left they could’ve did that themselves keep in mind guts spends 98% of the chapters injured and recovering

[Creampiekarl420]

Also wouldn’t femto and guts be sick jump force characters