I'd have maced that son of a bitch if my husband's best man tried that and then called my hubby out to kick his yeeth in. What is kiera Knightly supposed to do with that? and her husband in the house a few feet away. Would he break up his best friends marraige just to get his wick wet. But she runs out and rewards this behaviour so I'm guessing this marriage won't last. Yet so many think it's romantic, are you all mad.
Kind of a complicated question.
Now while I understand it was kind of like a catharsis for him, just let it out and move on, it felt weird that he phrased it in a way of asking her to spend the holiday with him.
Now I've seen a similar situation in Kdrama which was done much better. Two guys who are best friends like the same girl but she likes the guy 1 and dates him. Guy 2 accepts this but finds it hard to move on. He actually goes to guy 1 first and asks him if it's alright for him to tell her how he felt so that he can move on. Guy 1 trusts his friend and girlfriend enough that he says yes to it. Now guy 2 never actually tells her cause he later decides not to and moves on without doing it. That's a good way to do it cause there's no expectation of an answer from the girl, he's respecting their relationship and has consent from the partner.
The scene from Love Actually feels creepy cause he phrases it like an actual asking out/proposal to date kind of thing, while his friend, the husband has no clue about it.
And to make matters worse, she goes out and kisses him which just felt wrong.
That movie had some really good couples but this one ain't it.
Honestly the kids did it better than these two.
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I liked that scene. He got to express the deep feelings he had for her, knowing that he has to move on now. How he acts hereafter is a huge indicator of if he's a douche or not. If he minimizes his time around them and moves on with his life, fine. If he finds a way to hang out under the pretense of wanting to spend time with his buddy but stares at her a lot, or tries making a move... that's douchebag behavior.
In my opinion.
You do not understand this movie at all.
At no time did he ever make a move on his friend’s girl. He’s so in love with her, he’s tormented. Yet he never makes a move.
The cue cards seen is a goodbye. He’s being honest about his feelings, and saying goodbye, he’s going to move on now.
No one is beating the shit out of anyone. Animals, and immature humans, do that type of shit.
I didn't like the movie, but that scene didn't bother me particularly. What I thought was off was that she kissed him afterward. Even if it was just appreciation, or something like that. . . No.
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I'm glad somebody brought up this movie.
I'm not so much interested in the question of "was that creepy?" but rather the broader cultural implications of these themes in fiction.
It WAS creepy.
But in red pilled circles we kind of don't even believe in "creepy", to us that's just a feminist buzzword.
What strikes me as interesting is how everybody knows that in real life that scene would be cringe AF. Well I say "everybody" but perhaps it's only red pilled dudes. Because bitches be acting like "it's so sweet!" and beta cucks (like the character in the movie) be like, "Women want white knights".
The don't. I can't imagine any real actual person reacting the way Kiera did. Right?
And that's another thing, how common are love triangles anyway? Stupid mythic Hollywood would make it out that EVERY TIME you fall in love, there's gonna be somebody else who either likes you or likes the same person (that you will know personally of course). Hollywood pushes this myth that it's perfectly normal for there to be doubts and confusion and competition. That women are a prize to be won.
How convenient for women that Hollywood just happens to affirm all the worst hypergamous feminine instincts in women.
And I guess that's Hollywood's job, to sort of act as a PR defense for women in a mythic sense, because when it tries to sort of subvert or recontextualize we get EVEN WEIRDER and MORE out of touch romances like Finn and Rose Tico.
I dunno what the solution is to making Hollywood stop sucking, so I'm out. I can't watch movies anymore, they're too fake and blue pilled. Sorry.
You're right Irish Girl, for feeling that something was off with the premise of that scene. No, it's not normal to be a hypergamous cunt your whole life. No, we men don't owe it to you to pine for you and make grand gestures that are doomed to fail. If that guy had any balls at all he should have had the wherewithal to flirt with her sooner and ACTUALLY try to get what he wants, not succumb to self doubt and slave morality ideas such as "bros before hoes" or whatever was going on in his brain.
There is an appropriate time and place to attempt to seduce a hypergamous young woman, and it's not on Christmas Eve in the freezing cold where you deliberately appeal to your target's sense of pity. That's just fucking cringe.
To that end, Kiera responded precisely. You saw her running out there. I saw her doing the feminist white knight dance where she gives him a pity hug and tells him, "We'll always be friends."
Truly, it's a ritual of humiliation.
I literally liked your question, but that said, I was very taken aback by the description and still am taken aback by the content😯. So I answered it was Romantic instead. I just feel like the best quality in any partner or any person, is being humble, best never to fly off the handle as the expression goes (unleash into a rage or unleash into anger). But that's just me and my weakling values as a soft nerd I am 🤓
It's not creepy, but it's maximum beta. Only morons continue to love and worship a woman who will never and can never be with him. You break contact and get on with your life. That's called being an adult. What this guy is doing is acting like a 5th grader with a crush. Grow up, dude. There are plenty more fish in the sea.
It's neither for me.
He wanted to express the feelings he bottled up in himself for so long and when she found out, he wanted to say it all out a let it all go since he knew he can't have her.
The kiss was unnecessary but I take it as a goodbyeI don't think it's creepy OR romantic. On the surface, since I've yet to see the movie, I think it's in bad taste, not to mention incredibly risky, to do that with her fiance and apparently his best friend in the next room. I'll have to watch the flick.
Alan rickman makes me want to punch him every time I see this movie for what he res to Emma Thompson…
But anyway!
I think it’s totally creepy what he does considering he knows that is not ok behaviour. Move on without doing some big over the top some of affection for someone you know isn’t available
it would be romantic I guess if it wasn't his best friend's wife
I have never seen this movie but it would be hugely inappropriate to do that to your best friend. Some things transcend love and that is one of them.
But in the end Juliet (Kiera Knightley) doesn't go off with Mark (Andrew Lincoln). She gives him a face saving gesture and he skulks off. Which was thankfully a realistic ending.
I wouldn't use the word "creepy", but more inappropriate and an asshole move. That's his best friend's wife. He's not a real friend.
In the film its romantic because the writers decide it's romantic. In real life he wouldn't have plot armour to shield him from the creepiness.
I think it was to stop any awkwardness after she found out he was inlove with her so said how he felt and that was it, he wasn't expecting anything but I think he was glad to get it out.
He is an asswipe. If the soon to be husband knew he felt this way or was having this conversation with his bride…. he wouldn’t be the best man. A true friend / best man would grow up / suppress his feelings and move on.
I see it as very selfish. He's disrupting somebody else's life for his own gratification. Any normal person would have made their move while she was single.
I can't tell without watching the hole movie.
You know, movies are about making up complicated situations.
This question is proof that girls today will call anything "creepy", the most overused word of 2022.
I hate this movie. So much about it is unrealistic and stupid lol. I dont get why people like it.
The entire movie is dopey. I hated it.
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