Shame: Why Conservative Cultures Stifle Girls (Page 2)

[mits777]

First time reading such thing, in Europe no one tells their daughters to be ashamed of their bodies. I wish all the world becomes liberal to such things and all girls live happily without such constrains

[Phoenix98]

Sorry but I have to disagree of course there such a thing as being to strict I agree but that's all I agree with in regards to what you've said.

Look at history if you want to see what happened to all those wonder free really societies.

[reixun]

What do you mean, in what ways do you disagree?

[Phoenix98]

What do you mean ( could you be more specific? )

I disagree that conservative cultures stifle people especially women.

[reixun]

Do you actually disagree with what I wrote or is it more of a defending conservatism matter? I wrote experiences and made conclusions from them.

I'm the last person to say that conservatives are inherently oppressive in reference to clothes but when you're forced to and conditioned to it, it's oppressive and wrong. Same with forced uncoverings of conservatives like in France.

[Phoenix98]

A bit of both but more certain parts of what you've said.

But also my own experiences with it as I live in quit literally one of the most conservative states in the whole country and I've never seen nor experienced any of what you've said even in really conservative homes. So it play's a part in what I am saying as well as my own historical observation of really open and free societies vs conservative ones.

[Phoenix98]

But anything whether it conservatism or openness when taken to radical levels is wrong.

[reixun]

Lol no offense but American conservatives are not nearly as strict as African, middle eastern and Asian ones.

[Phoenix98]

Then you haven't met many of our conservatives then.

also I know people who have been to Africa, they are not conservative at least not the ones were the folks i know were.

And Chinese have to be everything they do is regulated by the goverment, they can't have more then 2 kids per household or the special police will come and take their child away. they don't live in a Conservative society they live in a communist one.

Japan though yes they are conservative but also their men there is something wrong with a lot of them but that's a conversation for another time lol.

[JohnDoe3000]

@Phoenix98

You are using a very amerocentric and narrow definition of "conservatism". Most African societies are culturally conservative (like mormons in the US) and a government can definitely enforce cultural conservatism (like a government that bans homosexuality, or in the case of China, a government that forces people to take care of their elderly parents). Having government interference in personal life doesn't make a country non-conservative.

[Phoenix98]

@JohnDoe3000 Not really and I am mainly talking about Africa as most people know it.

And actually it does when that nation goes against conservative ideals.

[VomitV]

You'd be surprised just how little you have to slacken the leash before women become empty-headed bimbos strutting their ass in front of the internet's thirsty eyes.

Look at this site, FFS, especially the "How Do I Look" section. Women who aren't "liberated" are generally more high-minded than that.

[reixun]

Are you religious or conservative?

[VomitV]

Conservative, but not religious. I grew up in a very conservative and religious environment.

[LivingLife94]

The conservative cultures make me sick. Look at Saudi Arabia, the women there have zero rights. Bunch of control freaks

[RedThread]

Thanks for sharing your insight into your situation.

[DizzyAster]

Human suck.
Muslims are too conservative, Christians are too liberal.
Some cultures are assholes.
Seriously, just wipe out everyone and make humans after my own image.

[reixun]

Christians are liberal? Lmao, actual religious christians are extremely conservative. You clearly haven't met any.

[castratedwhiteguy]

I could shine some light of truth on a few of your your assumptions, but you're probably not ready to hear it. Gotta go...

[reixun]

If you don't wanna share then don't bother writing an opinion about not wanting to share lmao

[AmericanDude]

I do not why conservatives are strict? Seems like they like to control people.

[ThunderButt83]

those places who dont like the female gender, dont deserve them, and those poor ladies should just move far away from them. burn your hijab and Muslim cult religion and come to america, or other countries where women are loved.

[reixun]

You missed the point

[Righttobeararms83]

From what I see on college campuses is tyat conservatives are shamed for having different views.

[LoveHorses]

They like to control people and make them their puppets.

[reixun]

Who's "they"?

[Scrambledagain]

It fucks men up too. I'm a product of this.

[reixun]

How so?

[Scrambledagain]

You are only 17 and can change now which makes me jealous. I only saw this at 27, that's how bad my conservative back ground killed me. I've only given myself 40 years to live (if I'm lucky) because I've wiped out the first 25yrs of my life out. I don't exist before then.

My parents are heavy Christians and my mother was one of those where sex is evil and masturbation is bad. Men are pigs etc. I grew up being so isolated from it all. And it's not something you can change overnight. I am constantly fighting negative inner voices.

I will start my own porn company to make up for it. It's the only promise I've made myself. That's the consequence of sexual repression.

[ClassicRocker]

I learned how, but I didn't learn why...

[Popo21]

You'll get over it
Don't upset your parents

[reixun]

I don't and I wouldn't, I'm just waiting it out.

[Popo21]

Get married to a good guy :)

[reixun]

Oh yeah 👅👌🏾 wouldn't marry a bad one

[Adigelunar]

good point*

[thecalmerface]

accept your culture as it is.